electronic voice manipulation in rap (not incl. remixes, s&c)

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the stuttering "dig"s in the beginning of dizzee's "fickle" reminded me of jay-z's "come and get me", and got me thinking about the relative rarity of instances in which the rappers voice is electronically treated/altered/distorted/cut-up (with the exception of kind of acts who get remixes from boards of canada). even when the vocoders show up, they usually leave whoever's flowing untouched. am i right-ish? is it (partially) because the rapper's flow is a mark of authenticity and individuality? examples to the contrary? i'm not letting screwed and chopped versions or trance remixes etc. count, because... well, because i suppose this is question about intention, and remixers often have different ones to rap stars.

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 7 August 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Linkin Park does this stuff all the time

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 7 August 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Devin The Dude 'To The X-treme'
Digital Underground 'Underwater Rimes'
Edan 'Ultra 88'
J-Zone and King Tee and J-Ro 'Choir Practice'
The Roots (that opening album track on Blak Thought's vocal)

There are tons more examples. Probably just a case of those that spill over into the mainstream's consciousness are fewer (and the more obvious ones).

― Lazza, Saturday, 7 August 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"Gimme the Loot" by BIG speeds his voice up on the answer verses so you think it's another rapper.

I know you said not to mention screw music but i love it when OG Ron C uses that effect that sounds like when you hold a sea-shell to your ear.

But i don't see why a MC would do anything like that ["electronically treated/altered/distorted/cut-up"] to purposely obscure his lyrics. Except maybe Outkast.

― scg, Saturday, 7 August 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

"What You Gonna Do" by Lil Jon & the Eastside Boyz puts this tin robot effect on the start of Lil Scrappy's verse that makes him sound like he's underwater.

― scg, Saturday, 7 August 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Adam Yauch seems pretty fond of fucking with his voice on Beastie tracks. Big example would be "Sure Shot."

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 7 August 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

"Gimme the Loot" by BIG speeds his voice up on the answer verses so you think it's another rapper.

I'm pretty sure he physically sped up his own rapping, I don't think he actually used any voice manipulation technology or something. Unless that's what you mean.

― djdee2005, Saturday, 7 August 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

the new funkstorung album is good for this

― Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Saturday, 7 August 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Joe - "Stutter"

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Muthafuckas gonna drop the pressure...

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 8 August 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

not sure exactly what i wanted from this thread, but please forget my initial proscriptions wrt s&c and remixes and carry on listing...

(hearing ugk's "one day" a couple months ago has turned me into a s&c convert)

― m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 31 October 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 31 October 2004 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

what about overdubs on accented words in a verse? or when you can obviously tell that a verse is a patchwork of a few takes?

― jake b. (cerybut), Monday, 1 November 2004 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

California Love - 2Pac

― frankE (frankE), Monday, 1 November 2004 02:57 (twenty-one years ago)

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