other (possible) examples:
Red Hot Chili PeppersAerosmith
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm sure they won't love me for pointing this out, but Alex and Jed are both in their 30s...
― adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)
i kinda figure most folx on ILM know both eras, regardless of age..or are at least aware....i was talking about more the general public...
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)
by the way, if i'm wrong on those dates, a steve vai fan should correct me...
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)
KILLING JOKE:in the early 80's: Punks, non-discophobic metalheads and Kate Bushin the mid-80's: what my wife calls "mongs"in the 90's: Industrial fans (though I've never understood how KJ would ever qualify as "industrial") and misinformed Grunge fans.Today: old men like myself.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)
early 70s days - So Cal singer songwriter fans
Mid-80s through now - Hipster doofuses like meeself.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)
I could see that, but I think he's so "legendary" that I'd be surprised if someone hadn't have heard of his history no matter when they got into him....
I don't know much about Mercury Rev's background actually (really remember hearing them on Deserter's Songs, so maybe I'm one of the people you're talking about!)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)
I think this is the winner so far!
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)
'80s: drunk Replacements fans'90s: their moms
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)
gotcha that makes total sense.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)
Similar to Flaming Lips actually, they were noisy and then were kinda gone/forgotten and then came back all critically acclaimed and adult (I like both bands later output much better).
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
The Black Crowes:
80s - hard rock/heavy metal kids and classic rock fans
mid-90s and onward - Jam band followers
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)
vs.
Post Who's Next US stadium rock gods Who
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)
-- Curt1sss (sevenxvii...), August 18th, 2004.
That applies almost exactly to Soul Asylum too
― David Allen (David Allen), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)
x-post
― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)
i remember someone dividing pavement fans into 3 separate groups in review of theirs that i read online, but i can't recall what the groups were
― 6335, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)
i'd say a more accurate statement would be that he played for PiL. It's not like he was ever an active member of the band outside of the studio. And it was for only one album.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― brontosaur, Thursday, 19 August 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)
The glam triumvirate
― Atnevon (Atnevon), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)
'60s - nobodylate '70s onwards - everybody apparently
― Jez (Jez), Thursday, 19 August 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)
'94-'95: UK Pre-Teens
'97-present: American indie kids.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 19 August 2004 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)
Fans of MOR Tedious guitar rock and... what?
Joy Division pre-Unknown Pleasures - punks (at least they wanted to be) post-UP, not punks.
The Cure had their post-punk phase, then goth.
― Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 19 August 2004 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 19 August 2004 07:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― derrick (derrick), Thursday, 19 August 2004 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)
Pre-Live Aid: piss-stained, denim-clad, long-haired blues-metal boys.Post-Live Aid: Baby boomers, who filed their CDs alongside Phil Collins solo albums and only listen to Classic radio stations.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― ENRQ (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)
Hey you forgot:
Pre-1970 : Heavily phased pop-psych combo!
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:48 (twenty-one years ago)
1950s-60s: ?1970s-80s: country nostalgists1990s on: alternative kids
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:48 (twenty-one years ago)
See also Depeche Mode. Except, not quite.
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)
1977-79: sleazy punk rockers with a penchant for sado masochism1980-> : pantomime pirate teenybop glam band
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)
1976-78: wild, anarchic, rebellios, anti-establisment youths1996-> : sad, tired, balding, beer-bellied, middle-aged gits
No, wait, we're the same audience!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Don Allred, Saturday, 21 August 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)
mid-90s - Jam band followers
Late 90's - Kate Hudson
― Jimmy Mod, Man About Towne (ModJ), Saturday, 21 August 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)
REMditto U2
Bon Jovi80s - hair metal fans90s - the Melrose Place generation00s - jel ;)
― Kim (Kim), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Don Allred, Sunday, 22 August 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)
Hmmmmm....its not like they were GG Alllin & the Murder Junkies. They've always had a pretty populist bent, I'd say.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 22 August 2004 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)
groan....
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 22 August 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Don Allred, Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)
Corrosion of Conformity
Goo Goo Dolls
The Coup
― Abby Gore (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 February 2026 18:24 (two weeks ago)
I was part of the initial audience for the Coup. Who made up the second audience?
― Who's going to stop 200 balloons? Nobody! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 February 2026 19:06 (two weeks ago)
They went more funk rock on their last album. Though there was still rapping it didn't feel like rapping
― Abby Gore (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 February 2026 19:09 (two weeks ago)
I'm fascinated by Slowdive's ascent to the top of the shoegaze heap. "Much more interesting than MBV", says a core zoomer to me.
― punchy wunchy wikipedia woo (bendy), Tuesday, 17 February 2026 19:16 (two weeks ago)
Primal Scream?
― Evan, Tuesday, 17 February 2026 19:32 (two weeks ago)
Scott WalkerKate Bush
― Who's going to stop 200 balloons? Nobody! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 February 2026 19:38 (two weeks ago)
Scott Walker definitely.
― The Olde, Old, Very Olde Man. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 February 2026 19:38 (two weeks ago)
I suppose there's a difference between artists who change their style and are embraced by a different audience (Walker), and those whose work is just discovered by a new audience (Bush).
― Who's going to stop 200 balloons? Nobody! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 February 2026 19:51 (two weeks ago)
Which describes Slowdive, who seem to appeal to the Black Metal crowd nowadays which certainly wasn't the case first time around
― that ronnie hazlehurst chord (Matt #2), Tuesday, 17 February 2026 19:59 (two weeks ago)
The Ramones.
From the voice of punk outcast weirdos, to the soundtrack for frat parties and major league sporting events...
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 17 February 2026 20:14 (two weeks ago)
slowdive have really played a lot of different festivals that I think probably helped them pick up some fans who were into deafheaven etc.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 17 February 2026 20:39 (two weeks ago)
xpost yeah, to me it is much more interesting to think about a band like Aerosmith ('70s rockers vs. '90s MTVheads and soccer moms) than bands that just switched up their style
unrelated, i listened to Slowdive for the first time in a long time the other day ... that band doesn't hold a candle to MBV.
― alpine static, Tuesday, 17 February 2026 20:43 (two weeks ago)
They've already been mentioned upthread but Kraftwerk was my first thought. Their fans in the 70s and early 80s were cool electronica types like me. In the 80s and 90s they were embraced by the dance tent crowd and since the 00s their increasingly nostalgia-driven schtick has appealed mainly to boomers.
― bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Tuesday, 17 February 2026 22:39 (two weeks ago)
Gary Numan perhaps as well, with new wave and electronic fans early on to heavy industrial fans these days. maybe there is more overlap in that fanbase than it seems
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 17 February 2026 22:52 (two weeks ago)
Zappa appeals to at least 2 very different audiences but probably not in different eras.
― WmC, Wednesday, 18 February 2026 00:04 (two weeks ago)
Stockhausen too. In the 80s he was very much part of the classical music community, and a minority of it at that. I remember going to a performance of Hymnen at the Festival Hall in the 80s where the place was no more than 30% full. Then in the 90s and 00s he was adopted by chin-stroking Wire-reading types.
― bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Wednesday, 18 February 2026 00:51 (two weeks ago)
I think some nu metal bands reckon they've always had a shoegazing element to their music these days, for some reason
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 18 February 2026 00:57 (two weeks ago)
Health - Who i remember seemed to fit in with late 2000s GAPDY indie Pitchfork-adjecent crowds but now seem to be more embraced by avant-metal type people
Similarly Arab Strap
― Jonk Raven (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2026 01:46 (two weeks ago)
neando who are the two types of people who like CoC?
― map, Wednesday, 18 February 2026 02:53 (two weeks ago)
i think this sort of applies to king gizzard & the lizard wizard. not really different times, or at least extremely overlapping times. the garage / noise weirdos vs the jam band hippie brah element.
― map, Wednesday, 18 February 2026 02:55 (two weeks ago)
scott's "hipster kisses" thread is a related phenom
― map, Wednesday, 18 February 2026 02:57 (two weeks ago)
― map, Tuesday, February 17, 2026 9:53 PM bookmarkflaglink
Hardcore kids and older stoner/southern rock fans
― Abby Gore (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 February 2026 03:15 (two weeks ago)
fucking weezer
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 18 February 2026 12:49 (two weeks ago)
In the 80s and 90s they were embraced by the dance tent crowd
Was there such a thing as a dance tent in the 80s? My recollection is that when Electric Café was released, Kraftwerk's appeal was very niche indeed, and festivals were the exclusive preserve of rock bands and boomer icons like Dylan.
― Vast Halo, Wednesday, 18 February 2026 13:17 (two weeks ago)
There was the whole wave of '60s-'70s rockers who retooled themselves for the '80s. MTV kids who'd never heard "Roundabout" made 90125 the best-selling Yes album. One that I think gets a little overlooked just because he's such a monument on the landscape is Springsteen. Born in the USA crossed him over to a raft of teenagers who were in nursery school when Born to Run came out. I guess that's not a "completely different audience," because he still had his older audience, but it definitely felt like a different era.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 18 February 2026 13:33 (two weeks ago)
Bowie, mentioned upthread, is another obvious example.
thing about the Ramones is that they really thought they'd be lifted out the the niche weirdo zone to be embraced by the sporting chants and frat party strata. I guess Johnny lived just barely long enough to see it take hold. They lost money by overestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people.
― punchy wunchy wikipedia woo (bendy), Wednesday, 18 February 2026 15:14 (two weeks ago)
Yeah they kept trying to have hits, they released singles, they went on TOTP to lip sync a Phil Spector song. I don't think they would have had any angst about selling out or anything.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 18 February 2026 15:21 (two weeks ago)
Even at the very beginning of their career Johnny was talking about how he thought they should be touring with Ted Nugent.
― placeholder username till I think of a better one (unperson), Wednesday, 18 February 2026 15:57 (two weeks ago)
I always saw them as self-directed bubblegum music (in other words not afraid of being popular), but I'm not old enough to have opinions of them besides in retrospect. I think it's fair to say while they were super influential, they didn't stay a "punk" band for long.
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Thursday, 19 February 2026 06:08 (two weeks ago)
would that be musos into prog rock and john zorn and modern composers, AND people into like, morning zoo radio and cheech and chong and stuff?
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Thursday, 19 February 2026 06:12 (two weeks ago)
king gizzard is the biggest "no one asked for this push" in my feeds
― My homies buttthole surfers' record sounds like a f (Western® with Bacon Flavor), Thursday, 19 February 2026 06:41 (two weeks ago)
B-52s, pleasing the “party time!” crowd and the rhythm guitar freaks
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 19 February 2026 07:04 (two weeks ago)
Alice Coltrane being revived largely on the basis of her devotional music seems like a good example of this?
― with hidden noise, Thursday, 19 February 2026 08:07 (two weeks ago)
^ very much so
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Thursday, 19 February 2026 08:23 (two weeks ago)
I think Depeche Mode had a different type of audience in the US in the 90s/00s than they'd had in the UK in the 80s.
― fetter, Thursday, 19 February 2026 08:58 (two weeks ago)
B-52s makes me think that a lot of queer artists of the 20th century had an audience who could read the camp and another where it sailed right past them.
― punchy wunchy wikipedia woo (bendy), Thursday, 19 February 2026 10:47 (two weeks ago)
Haruomi Hosono I think might be one of these. Probably YMO in general but Hosono in particular. His recent sudden popularity in the West surprised even him, especially since it centered around recordings he doesn't even remember making anymore. But its real! I ordered the Tropical Dandy reissue through my local shop and he ordered an extra copy because he thought the cover was hilarious ("it doesn't even look like him!"), now he's telling me he's sold through 4 of them! That would be crazy to imagine like, a decade ago.
― frogbs, Friday, 20 February 2026 04:29 (one week ago)
Puzzled by the absence of Underworld in this thread.
Perhaps because "Underneath the Radar" wasn't a hit anywhere other than Australia? (Slight exaggeration)
― raven, Tuesday, 24 February 2026 12:08 (one week ago)
Oh yeah! Absolutely did not believe they were the same band for quite some time.
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 24 February 2026 12:53 (one week ago)
David Johansson:New York Dolls and Buster Poindexter had very different audiences.
― Who's going to stop 200 balloons? Nobody! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 February 2026 13:38 (one week ago)
I think it's fair to say while they were super influential, they didn't stay a "punk" band for long.
wait wut no
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 24 February 2026 13:50 (one week ago)