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Has anybody heard anything off this album? It's got a release date of September 28th.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm worried that, with his all-over-the-place-ness, it might not live up to my infinitely high expectations. But, shit, just there being a new Mos Def album AT ALL gives me a mental semi.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this the metal band, or hip-hop, or Mos Def Sings the Standards, or what?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Mos Def Sings Your Favourite James Bond Themes

― Huck, Monday, 30 August 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

No, this is (supposedly) a hip-hop album, not the ol' Canonical Black Rock-n-Roll Allstar Band (whose album hasn't been and probably won't ever be released).

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

But then, I really don't know much about it accept that A) it's coming out soon, B) it's not the rock band, and C) it's called The New Danger.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, duh, google to the rescue:

Mos Def comes back with new album, big band performance(!?!)

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man. I seriously remember reading an interview where he says he thinks he has "a good ballads album in him."

I do like Will Calhoun though, he JUST MIGHT make it not too embarassing.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Drawing from material by Miles Davis, Chick Corea, Gil-Scott Heron, Beyonce

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

That doesn't sound promising. But then I think Mos has been heading down hill ever since "If You Can Huh".

― mcd (mcd), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

there was a 12" a few months ago of "Jump Off" f/ Ludacris, that was ok, dunno if it's going to be on the album, though.

― Al (sitcom), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

what little i've heard so far (which who knows whether it'll make it to the album) has been just okay

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that song "Beef" going to be on it that was sweet.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never been a huge fan of his albums, but after seeing the highly amiable sleeper "Where's Marlowe?", I'm incredibly excited about Mos playing Ford Prefect...though not as excited as I am about the triumphant return of WARWICK DAVIS!

― Jesse Fuchs (Jesse Fuchs), Monday, 30 August 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

the first single, playing now on hot97 (NYC) is really, really good. Kind of darkish, with twisted horns, and mos def with a stop start mumbly flow. anyone know the name? i'm surprised at how fresh / non-rawkus '98 it sounds...

― paulhw (paulhw), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Grown Man business. feat. Medina Green

― paulhw (paulhw), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy fuck.

Mos Def - The New Danger - release date: Sept. 28th
Talib Kweli - The Beautiful Struggle - release date: Sept. 28th

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't realize they were being released on the same day is what I'm sayin'.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

They should've just released them together a la Outkast, since they have the exact same fanbase.

"The New Beautiful Dangerstruggle"

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

New Danger's been pushed back to October 12th, last I heard. I hope the Mos hype doesn't drown out Kweli, I'm looking forward to Beautiful Struggle a lot more.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

also the b-side to the new 12" of "Beef" features CASSIDY, that's not a good sign, Mos.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I have heard nothing about the Kweli. Producers?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the best tracklist I could find for Beatiful Struggle. A lot of it is Kanye West beats (ie hot shit).

01. Dear Father w/ Res
02. Back Up Off Me
03. Broken Glass
04. I Try w/ Mary J. Blidge
05. A Game
06. Around My Way w/ John Legend
07. We Know w/ Faith Evans
08. We Got the Beat w/ Res
09. Work It Out
10. Ghetto Show w/ Anthony Hamilton & Common
11. Black Girl Pain w/ Jean Grae
12. Never Been In Love
13. Beautiful Struggle
14. Rock On

Unfortunately, "Lonely People" will NOT be on the album as they couldn't get the samples cleared or something like that.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah shit it DOES look like they've pushed New Danger back, probably so as not to fuck up each other's sales, psh.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, that's the official tracklist. I *knew* "Lonely People" wouldn't make it, the first time I heard it I was like, dude, why even bother, you know it won't get cleared. I'm glad he cut some of the wacker songs from the leaked early version, but I'm bummed that "I Try" is still the first single. and where the fuck is "Peace of Mind"? that was easily the best of the new songs I'd heard.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

The New Danger works a lot better for me if I take out tracks 1-2, 4-7, 12, 17.

― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 8 October 2004 19:24 (twenty years ago)

That's a lot of tracks.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 8 October 2004 19:35 (twenty years ago)

the new danger saddens me

― Symplistic (shmuel), Friday, 8 October 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago)

and did he really say that "quasi-homosexuals" are running the rap game in "the rapeover" (worst song title of the year obv)? man.

― Symplistic (shmuel), Friday, 8 October 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago)

please lord tell me its called the "rapover" and the "rapeover"!!?!

― m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 8 October 2004 20:47 (twenty years ago)

did he really say that "quasi-homosexuals" are running the rap game in "the rapeover" (worst song title of the year obv)?

It is called The Rape Over, it has the same Doors sample as Takeover (notice lack of "The" there). And he does indeed say that 'quasi-homosexuals' are 'runnin' this rap shit', at the 1' 23" mark.

The album works a lot better for me if I take out tracks 1-8 and 11-18. This is after one listen, mind. Black on Both Sides was my second favourite album of 1999...

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 9 October 2004 11:22 (twenty years ago)

i assumed it was a riff on the takeover, but i just couldnt believe anyone could use that title. good god. i hope i never hear this album.

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 9 October 2004 11:59 (twenty years ago)

Removing tracks 1-18 and putting on a good record really enhanced my listening experience. Mos lost the page like Howard Hughes.

― adam (adam), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:19 (twenty years ago)

Mos Def developed a reputation as a top-shelf actor, a go-to guy capable of creating deeply nuanced characterizations. That same skill proves vital to his earthy, impressively diverse second solo effort, The New Danger. That's another way of looking at it...

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:43 (twenty years ago)

He developed a what now?

― Symplistic (shmuel), Saturday, 9 October 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Mr. Def sings on a track of the recent Isley Brothers tribute album.

― cybele (cybele), Saturday, 9 October 2004 19:05 (twenty years ago)

I've heard bad, bad things about this album.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 9 October 2004 19:11 (twenty years ago)

"That doesn't sound promising. But then I think Mos has been heading down hill ever since "If You Can Huh". "

Word.

― Pikmin, Saturday, 9 October 2004 20:58 (twenty years ago)

Maybe the worst sophomore album since Raskassasination. And I still have a 12-inch of H20 Proof (love that song). Both albums have one thing in common: inexplicable, self-imposed nicknames. For Ras Kass, it's the Waterproof Emcee. For Mos Def, it's the Boogie Man. What the fuck, man.

Great album if you only keep:

Sunshine
Sex, Love And Money
Life Is Real
Ghetto Rock

Even the songs I like have questionable lyrical moments. For an album that took 6 years to make, this seems rushed.

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Sunday, 10 October 2004 05:41 (twenty years ago)

As Sage Francis said: This dude is in love with the sound of his own voice.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 10 October 2004 06:28 (twenty years ago)

the boogie man, huh?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 10 October 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago)

i love 'modern marvel'... i think its a good album.

― stevie (stevie), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:58 (twenty years ago)

So it looks likely that my Tuesday night will consist of buying the new Mos Def and making a few optimistic posts about it. A few days later I will depressingly realize that I have no desire to listen to it again (see: The Beautiful Struggle). And yet, I'm going to buy it anyway, WTF.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago)

The New Danger ist much better than The Beautiful Struggle

― stevie (stevie), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:21 (twenty years ago)

wow, beautiful people is great. i'm totally surprised because a) i don't think talib is all that great and b) i wouldn't believe a beatles sample could make such a good song (overexposure and all that).

his flow has really improved. he sounds like he's been listening to a lot of southern rappers and it's not all just mushmouthed too many words per line. there's an actual rhythm and bounce.

is there a thread for his new album? it's really that good?

― JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:35 (twenty years ago)

sorry, not beautiful people, "lonely people" or whatever it's called (my mp3 was called "all the lonely people"

― JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:36 (twenty years ago)

OMG BEAUTIFUL STRUGGLE REEEEAAAAAALLY IS MISSING "LONELY PEOPLE"

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, yes I am somewhat disappointed in this album (the new Mos or the new Kweli? does it matter?), especially as it, even at loud volumes, assumes such a background-music role, as opposed to Black on Both Sides, which was (I hate to use such a tired expression, but...) IN YOUR FACE.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:40 (twenty years ago)

I'm worried though that my disappointment levels with this & Kweli's album are unfairly influenced by how many extremely good records have come out in the past month (Real Gone, Showtime, Medulla, etc).

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:41 (twenty years ago)

The New Danger is infinitely better than the Talib Kweli album. I actually find the new Mos Daf quite similar to Black on Both Sides, which, while I never listen to it now, I liked a lot at the time...

― paulhw (paulhw), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago)

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Alternating with the Roots record, this will probably be the token hip-hop inclusion on a lot of year-end lists... mine included!

That's right! I said it!

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago)

i listened to the roots one time. i will never again.

it was a copy my friend gave me because he never wanted to listen to it again.

― JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 20:46 (twenty years ago)

I am so proud of myself for not buying that Roots album.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 20:50 (twenty years ago)

the song Mos did on Letterman a week or two ago was so horrible.

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago)

i got the roots as a promo and i didn't sell it. i genuinely like a lot of it. it'd be on my list. 'stay cool' and 'guns are drawn' get play to this day.

hey, plus for mos def: the album cover is fucking killer.

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 21:42 (twenty years ago)

I just remembered that the last Mos Def song I really liked was on a Charlie Hunter album.

(I'm downloading some of the new shit now, btw)

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 21:56 (twenty years ago)

i'm really confused. i just bought this and i'm on track 7 and i really, really like it*. what's the huffing about? and why isn't this called Black Jack Johnson? there's live instruments and heavy guitar on almost every song. also, my copy doesn't have the grafitti scrawled on the cover. was that early leaked artwork?

* i also like kamaal, cherrywine and dudley perkins

― JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:53 (twenty years ago)

that asterisk was really important.

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:12 (twenty years ago)

cherrywine are horrible. the other two are better.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:17 (twenty years ago)

that link that jordan posted earlier had this to say:
Attn Mos Def: Nobody wants to hear you sing or your untalented friends play guitar. Please shut the fuck up and rap like you used to.

this is what i'm feeling is everyone's hatred to it. 'just go back to being the underground rawkus 98 hero that we used to love.' lame.

― JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:39 (twenty years ago)

How is that lame? He sucks at rap rocking. Also acting.

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:43 (twenty years ago)

Also acting

clearly you missed that Alicia Keys video

― JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago)

When a cat like mos def makes an album so bad that I wanna stop listening to rap, you know the game is dying. I still can't believe what I heard. The new danger is not hip hop. The new danger is a danger to a real rap fan's ears. I can't imagine what it'll be like when he goes on tour. Singing? I've lost all respect for him.

― Chris Long, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago)

Okay, let's look at it this way. It's a rock album and not a rap album. Mos Def is just dipping his toes in another pool, like McCartney did with orchestral writing or Mould did with *cough* electronic music.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:58 (twenty years ago)

I don't think anyone would have a problem with him fronting a rock band or singing ballads if he was really GOOD at it.

I downloaded about half the album. It's not unlistenable or anything, but the songs just aren't there. Most of the songs feel like sketches or jams ("Rapeover", Bedstuy Parade, Modern Marvel, etc.). I remember 'War' from that HBO special a few years ago and it actually sounded pretty intense live. I remember thinking 'huh, I wonder what it'll sound like when they tighten it up in the studio'. It's the exact same arrangement, it just sounds weeaaak now.

Sex, Love & Money is probably the best thing I've heard, and that's mostly for the hot beat. I could see someone else tearing it up.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:05 (twenty years ago)

I didn't approach it as a song album, but, like you said, an album of sketches. It's got a lot of immediacy about it.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:07 (twenty years ago)

The only good rap rock is "Bring The Noise" by Public Enemy and Anthrax. Or maybe even the remakes of Wu-Tang songs that System of a Down did before. Either way, this album is shitty because it's shitty, not because he isn't rapping enough. even the rap tracks are pretty blah. half these songs sound unfinished.

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 03:04 (twenty years ago)

i read this page and half of it seems like "blah blah blah oh everyone's decided they hate the new mos def album, so i'm gonna say its worse than CANCER because that will make me the coolest". i'm sorry, but its true.

― stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 07:49 (twenty years ago)

and rollie get yr ASS to the Judgement Night soundtrack, and tell me Boo Yaa Trive & Faith No More's 'Another Body Murdered' isn't the greatest rock-rap crossover track yet - febrile and psychotic like Wu Tang...

― stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 07:50 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I'm doing a 180 now, having listened to it A) all the way through in one sitting for the first time, B) at night, and C) LOUDER THAN FUCK. Apart from a very weak start, I fucking LOVE it.

Who the fuck is Minnesota, where did he come from, why are his beats so kick-the-fuck-ass (notably "Sex, Love, and Money" and "Grown Man Business"), and why have I never heard of him before? Wow.

This album works a LOT better if you think about it as a unified, theatrical piece. Mos says some crazy shit on it in places, for sure (omg no way!), but some of his lyrics on here are really nothing short of MAJESTIC.

I can see though how the singing (I think his singing sounds GOOD on here wtf? [I mean, I figure if it's good enough for Broadway it's good enough for me]), the rap-metal (although in these parts, upon louder listening, I was more entranced by Dr. Know & Bernie's psychedelicization of the format), and some of the content could put some off. And also I could see how the "Y E A YEA go on and get it" or whatever song seems ridiculous, but I think that was part of the point of it.

Yeah, me, 180, this record, yay.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:36 (twenty years ago)

Mos' singing voice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andre 3000's singing voice. I don't know why I felt the need to say that, but it is.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:37 (twenty years ago)

Also, wtf, the guitaring in "Blue Black Jack" (SHUGGIE OTIS) is KILLER, as are Mos' verses in that song.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:39 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, Shuggie

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago)

I love the way the drum programming on that track totally jiggies up the old straight 1-2 blues beat. And the way Mos plays the rhythm of his verse against it in places.

Also, it makes me really happy to have "Close Edge" now in a format besides the riding-around-in-a-car-with-Dave-Chappelle version.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 12:13 (twenty years ago)

I do think though the main deciding factor for this album is going to be whether or not you like Mos' singing voice/are willing to embrace him singing about what in most places is definitely "goofy shit".

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 12:14 (twenty years ago)

nick, me and you are gonna hold hands skipping into the sunset listening to this album and just forget all the haters, k luv?

― JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago)

YAY!

The third verse of "Sunshine" is fucking PHENOMENAL. I love how he keeps the rhyme going over the hook in that song too.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago)

The only track I have any problems with now is #2, which is essentially an extraneous intro track, after "The Boogie Man Song" which is itself an intro track. One intro per album, please, Mos.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago)

I actually do like his singing voice, but if he wants to be D'Angelo, I just wish he would have written some tunes. The couple I listened to sounded the intros, outros, or breakdowns to songs that don't exist.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago)

Ha, yeah, I downloaded those two first, I thought there must have been some kind of mistake.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago)

Listen to "The Beggar" outside the context of the album. It's fucking gigantic!

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Is it me or is Mos Def emulating Jay-Z's style here and there? Sunshine for example, especially the first verse.

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 17:42 (twenty years ago)

i think i noticed that on the rape over...

― JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago)

</ ;) >

― JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Classic or dud: spelling Bernie Worrell's name wrong in the liner notes to your crappy new album, on which he plays.

(Give up? DUD!!!)

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:09 (twenty years ago)

At risk of sounding like an apologist here: I'm liking this. But. BUT: the only way I've listened to it so far is straight through from the beginning. In my car. Which makes sense.

Bear this in mind, however: I MIGHT be liking this as much as I am simply because I desperately want it to be good. I'm afraid of the disappointment...so, uh, yeah.

― skowly (skowly), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:53 (twenty years ago)

"Okay, let's look at it this way. It's a rock album and not a rap album. Mos Def is just dipping his toes in another pool, like McCartney did with orchestral writing or Mould did with *cough* electronic music."

dont know about mould, but mccartney dipping his toes into classical is reason enough for artists to stick with what they know.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago)

there are plenty of great moments on this. Sex, Love & Money into Sunshine are a brilliant 10 mins. If he hadn't done BOBS, people would be hailing this as an underground classic. It's a highly unusual fusion of blues, soul, funk and rap. it's got challenging lyrics. it's brooding and intense. sure, it's more difficult than BOBS because it doesn't have jump up classics like Ms Fat Booty which frat boys can dance to but that certainly doesn't justify the level of knee-jerk criticism which it's received on this thread.

― Jay G (jaybob79), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 08:44 (twenty years ago)

Just listen to the album LOUD, and as a WHOLE. Dont think MOS, dont
think RAP, just listen. It grows on you.
Besides, if he was an unknown artist, we would all be running for
this "new type of music"...

― brian spritte, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 09:25 (twenty years ago)

MINNESOTA HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE THE MID 90S, HE USED TO WORK WITH MONEY BOSS PLAYERS. REAL HIP HOP HEADS KNOW MBP AND LOVE THEM A LOT. MOS' NEW ALBUM IS WACK AS FUCK, WE ALL KNOW IT, MOS KNOWS IT, THE REVIEWERS KNOW IT TOO IN MAGAZINES BUT I BET THE ROCK FANS WILL LOVE IT BUT THE HIP HOP FANS WONT.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 10:00 (twenty years ago)

i still havent heard it but as an MC, mos has been getting worse and more tired-sounding (by that i mean he himself sounds bored) in the last 5 years. i liked his songs with charlie hunter more than any of the rapped stuff hes done in the same period. i dont think he has any passion for hip hop anymore, and i think its reflected in the music.

― DVD (dickvandyke), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 10:08 (twenty years ago)

i think thats it actually, i dont want mos to rap anymore. same goes for lauryn hill, cee-lo, andre3000.

― DVD (dickvandyke), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 10:49 (twenty years ago)

"i think thats it actually, i dont want mos to rap anymore."

Is that Progress? Or just wanting to be different? Coz Lauryn Hill stands out more as a rapper than as an R&B singer, just like Mos stands out more as a rapper than as a rock artist. If he gets into rock, then he's got to compete with the best in rock...in which case Black Jack Jhonson is 'average'... He could end up as a mediocre artist!

― brian spritte, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 11:03 (twenty years ago)

lauryn hill is a 94034953 times better singer than MC these days, and its been that way since 1997 or so. she hasnt done anything that shook the world of rap in god knows how long.

most might stand out more as a rapper, but he is a far better singer (see his songs with charlie hunter) than MC these days. admittedly his rock posturing is dire but he could sing other types of music. soul/R&B could do with mos the singer more than rap could do with mos the MC. and the way things are going, hes not happy with his place as an underground or underdog MC and wants to be as big as jay or 50 or whoever so he might as well give up and do what hes best at.

― DVD (dickvandyke), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 11:06 (twenty years ago)

In fact "The Beggar" is the track I currently like most in "The New Danger".
You see, a while ago I could confidently say Mos was the best rapper around. I know I 'll NEVER be able to say that of him as a singer. While its commendable that he can pull off such songs as "The Beggar", Im afraid he's getting lost in a crowd.
Plus the hip hop world badly needs the type of rapper that Mos WAS.

― brian spritte, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 11:22 (twenty years ago)

thats just it though, he WAS a great rapper. its funny, him and talib are being championed and backed by the big names in urban music like jermaine dupri and kay slay now that theyve become shit.

― DVD (dickvandyke), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 11:30 (twenty years ago)

Ok, ok. Lets wait and see if Danger does for Mos what Mised. did for Lauryn Hill. It could. Hope it does.
As for Talib, I dont think he's changed much; he's very much what he was before, and probably therefore quite predictable. Maybe thats why Mos didnt go that route. Its happened to other artists: Bone Thugs can outdo themselves, but few heads will turn (remember the "Ressurection Album"). An artist has to redefine himself from time to time.
So lets see the impact of the New Danger...

― brian spritte, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 11:48 (twenty years ago)

Besides, if he was an unknown artist, we would all be running for
this "new type of music"...

It's like, rap, and rock, but...TOGETHER!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 13:26 (twenty years ago)

i still think it's a great album.

i paid $30/ticket to see him this thursday and i'm gonna fucking love it. i wanna catch his hat

― JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 16:16 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

i cant listen to the rock on here. the hip hop sounds lazy and uninspired - i dont think his heart is in it anymore. i like the jazzier bluesy tracks though.

a shame cos BOBS is one of my all time favourite albums.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:45 (twenty years ago)

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so what's the word on Mos Def - The New Danger?