wedding present reform..

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according to Playlouder today. Gedge has announced this exciting news. or is it a simple case of 'what took you so long ? '
personally was never a fan .. just kinda interested in ILM opinion on this second rate indie band who dominated the local scene in Leeds for far too long.

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 13:39 (twenty years ago) link

Lurve them still...but I can't say I'm either excited or intrigued by this news.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 13:41 (twenty years ago) link

i love bizarro and some seamonsters stuff. that fast-strum stuff is timeless timely at the same time.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 13:42 (twenty years ago) link

timeless AND timely

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 13:42 (twenty years ago) link

Who's drumming? This is crucial.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 13:43 (twenty years ago) link

Can we get a link to back this up??????

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 13:55 (twenty years ago) link

http://playlouder.com/news/+weddedbliss/

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

soz alex .. should have been more thorough ..

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:00 (twenty years ago) link

Hmm. Kinda sad to say I feel the way Ned does. I do recall hearing a few years ago that it was at least possible. It would be nice to think they'd put out something better than Cinerama, though.

Bimble (bimble), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:27 (twenty years ago) link

fuckin' A!

the wedding present are the most underrated band of all time. seriously. this is fantastic news.

i saw cinerama in glasgow last year and gedge asked - after playing corduroy - "who thinks we should re-form the wedding present?" i was the only person shouting yes, which surprised me ... i mean, i didn't think ppl were cinerama *fans*. i just thought they accepted them as the next best thing.

although that link would suggest this is just going to be, umm, cinerama rebadged. hmm. that said: the wedding present are like the fall anyway: one man's skewed vision played out over thousands of line-up changes.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

No good will come of this, especially if it's just Cinerama under a different name. I'll still go and see them live, mind.

Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

nah, I can't see how this is a bad thing. that material ought to be heard live and I really wouldn't want to hear it badly covered by other bands down the line.

nick.K (nick.K), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago) link

Chances are WP 2004 will be still as dreadful as the old version. Awful band.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:19 (twenty years ago) link

that last album (Torino) was more like the Weddoes than Cinerama anyhow, so it seems a natural progression. i'm ppretty excited, but apprehensive too. this better not suck

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago) link

On a quasi-related footnote, apparently the Wonder Stuff are officially reforming...albeit with new American members (not a good plan) and not with the blessing of certain former members.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:17 (twenty years ago) link

the wedding present are the most underrated band of all time.

Then nominate 'Seamonsters' for the ILM 90s poll!

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:20 (twenty years ago) link

oh man seamonsters wasn't nom'd yet?
i betta change my vote

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:22 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think it has been, but I can't face reloading the whole page on dial up just now.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

Great news, alright. Then again, Cinerama's Torino was better than the last 2 Wedding Present albums. I can't understand people why people are so down on Cinerama. Maybe they miss the earlier guitar textures. But meanwhile, his songwriting just gets better and better...

paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:16 (twenty years ago) link

apparently the Wonder Stuff are officially reforming...albeit with new American members (not a good plan) and not with the blessing of certain former members.

christ as if the original weren't shitty enough!

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

Now, I was a Wonder Stuff fan, but I'm far more suspicious of them sounding any good now than I am about a "reformed" Wedding Present.

Bimble (bimble), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

the Wonder Stuff have been officially reformed for three or four years! what's happening now is Hunt is sticking out his latest solo as a Wonder Stuff record and telling everyone except the guitarist to go get fucked.

kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 2 September 2004 13:52 (twenty years ago) link

seamonsters has been nominated now. i checked before i did mine.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
I just heard 'Interstate 5' for the first time. Despite giving up on the Wedding Present somewhere during their hit parade singles run, I thought it was pretty damn great. I wonder if any young kids would get into it at all, of if it's just for old indie bores like me.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 22 November 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

What is it comparable to, Alba? I gave up after Watusi.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 22 November 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

A dark swirling continuation of 'Seamonsters', I guess.

What is it that the foreboding start reminds me of? 'Tunic (Song For Karen)'?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 22 November 2004 18:58 (twenty years ago) link

'Interstate 5' makes it sound like it's going to be some boppy indie-disco number. It isn't.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 22 November 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, it's a lot more melodic and Cineramaish than Seamonsters. But the guitar is pretty menacing.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 22 November 2004 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

But the guitar is pretty menacing.

This sounds promising.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 22 November 2004 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

Gedge has broken up with long-term g/f - the new Wed Pres LP is the resultant fruit.
S'what I heard, anyway.

David Merryweather (DavidM), Monday, 22 November 2004 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

He's like a poor foie gras goose.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 22 November 2004 19:42 (twenty years ago) link

He broke up with Sally?!?!?!?!?! Wow.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 22 November 2004 19:47 (twenty years ago) link

That sounds VERY odd, considering he mentioned Sally prominently in his tribute to John Peel last month, so I don't believe it...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 November 2004 19:55 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe he's in menko denial!

Alba (Alba), Monday, 22 November 2004 19:57 (twenty years ago) link

Well, I dunno but it says so on his website.

"Around the same time, following the break up with his long-term girlfriend and musical partner, Sally, Gedge's personal life also entered a darker place, and he moved to Seattle and began writing a series of songs that were clearly influenced by his despair over the split."

David Merryweather (DavidM), Monday, 22 November 2004 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

Well I'll be damned. That IS a surprise.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 November 2004 20:15 (twenty years ago) link

Seconded.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 22 November 2004 20:21 (twenty years ago) link

You Weddoes fans could do worse than check out the new compilation album by This Poison! They were a Scottish band on Gedge's Reception label - only released a couple of singles but really good early WP-style frantic strumming, especially "Poised Over The Pause Button", their second single.

Details:
http://www.eggrecords.co.uk/eggrest008.htm


everything, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 21:19 (twenty years ago) link

dumped gedge = classic weddoes!

yes, that makes me an unfeeling bastard. but still, i don't actually know the guy, do i? i just love his music. so, umm, if this means good songs then ... aargh, i feel guilty now.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 00:19 (twenty years ago) link

Damnit! {bell rings} This Poison! I've heard that name before! In fact, quite recently in connection with something or other and forgot to check it out. Will do, thanks!!

Is this really the Wedding Present original members sort of deal or is it just Cinerama calling themselves by a different name? Cause I heard somewhere it was the latter.

Hmmm...no actually I think you may be on to something, fiendish...wasn't he always best in "spurned lover" mode?

Alex - interesting you say you gave up after Watusi - I was just today thinking about the album Saturnalia for some reason and how I ought to pull it out just for the hell of it. Good album, that. They went out very nicely in my book, not with a whimper but a bang. The only thing I didn't care for was the Mini EP. Sold it, in fact.

Bimble (bimble), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 08:41 (twenty years ago) link

dumped gedge = weddoes!

more like.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 08:59 (twenty years ago) link

well, yes: you're right. but i guess he'd run out of things to write about from his past. he needed a fresh break-up to focus his mind.

no, seriously!

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 11:41 (twenty years ago) link

Well, you know how Elvis goes to Lonely Street at heartbreak hotel when his baby leaves him? Dave Gedge goes and (re)forms the wedding present.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 11:44 (twenty years ago) link

Wedding Present surely best when Gedge is stalking/letching after someone, rather than immediately post break up?

RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 11:48 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe he's good at imagining the pitiful future that lies ahead.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:09 (twenty years ago) link

Wedding Present surely best when Gedge is stalking/letching after someone, rather than immediately post break up?

not necessarily.

exhibit a: my favourite dress
exhibit b: dalliance
exhibit c: kenne ... oh, hang on. got confused there. sorry

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:24 (twenty years ago) link

apple pie stalking there

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:29 (twenty years ago) link

'Dalliance' is about Jilly Cooper, isn't it?

The new single doesn't seem like it could be (recently) autobiographical either.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:42 (twenty years ago) link

i think dalliance was actually inspired by the story of jilly cooper's husband's mistress. if you see what i mean.

(but it's really all about GEDGE'S PAIN, and we all know it ;)

i haven't heard the new one yet. i forgot to look for it at the weekend. i'm waiting on a couple of orders turning up at mono this week so i'll try to get it then.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:01 (twenty years ago) link

'My Favourite Dress' (and the better rewrite 'Heather') don't seem like immediately post-breakup tracks to me.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:08 (twenty years ago) link

(you are quaint with your record shop orders)

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:12 (twenty years ago) link

i know: i actually thought, ha, i'm going to go and PHYSICALLY BUY some records today. naturally, they didn't have some of what i wanted. but, having gone all the way to the shop, i thought i should order it.

so the upshot is i'm waiting much longer to get hold of the music than if i'd bought it online. hmm.

x-post: ok, MFD isn't *immediately* post-breakup. but it's obviously recent enough: "slowly your beauty is eaten away/by the scent of someone else/in the blankets where we lay"

[tongue firmly in cheek] and hey, you know what women are like with dresses. if she's still wearing that dress then it can only be a matter of weeks. i mean, she'd have "gone off it" otherwise, no? [removes tongue]

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:24 (twenty years ago) link

x-post: ok, MFD isn't *immediately* post-breakup. but it's obviously recent enough: "slowly your beauty is eaten away/by the scent of someone else/in the blankets where we lay"

Hang on - I've never thought about this line. Has he actually been breaking into her flat and sniffing her blankets?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:29 (twenty years ago) link

haven't we all done that?

i assume it's his blankets. mind you: is gedge the kind of person who'd change his sheets very often? perhaps i'm wrong with my timings, then.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

Has he actually been breaking into her flat and sniffing her blankets?

C'mon, this is Mr Creepy Indie Stalker we're talking about. Of course he has!

RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:38 (twenty years ago) link

i assume it's his blankets.

But if it's Gedge's blankets then it's a bit rich to complain about his ex's beauty being tarnished by his new girlfriend's smell? I hate this man.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

of course it's a bit rich. it's gedge.

ok, how about this:

it's his girlfriend's blankets and he's *imagining* what they now smell like (ie of brut 33).

or: it's his blankets and they're being tarnished by some rubbishy one-night stand he can't shake off.

or ... oh, fuck, i've got to go to a meeting with marketing. pissery.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

I think the first is the most likely. It's a bit stupid though.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago) link

Another suggestion: the whole incident with the stranger's hand has just happened. He goes home to the flat he shares with this woman and notices the smell on the bed....

everything, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 20:22 (twenty years ago) link

I can't believe you two have just spent time worrying about this!!!

How about it's someone else entirely's blankets, but they happened to enjoy breaking into other people's houses, lying on their beds, and then leaving. Now he can imagine what happens when the other folk return and use their beds again.

alext (alext), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 22:00 (twenty years ago) link

that's too funny for me even to attempt a reply.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 22:19 (twenty years ago) link

Gedge is wanking while you read this

alext (alext), Thursday, 25 November 2004 12:09 (twenty years ago) link

i'm wanking while i type this!

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago) link

(nb: no mum, i'm not really. i just spilt some coffee on my trousers.)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago) link

And they are playing the John Peel tribute night.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 26 November 2004 10:53 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
has the album leaked yet?

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

yes

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

how is it?

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link

hoo. i've just been given a copy of the album. the case fell apart as soon as i opened it. this is obviously due to the sheer ROCK POWER emanating from the CD being too much for the flimsy plastic.

god damn i wish i could listen to CDs at work. fuck.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 January 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

You can play CDs on the PC down here.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 17 January 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i could play it on this mac too if i wanted to run the risk of ancient-ass Apple CD Player blowing it up. it's more the fact that [phone rings] someone gives me grief on average every [annoying interruption from colleague] 0.002s, so i won't be able to enjoy it.

so if you want to take it for the afternoon you're more than welcome. just yell.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 January 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link

it's okay. it's not seamonsters, but it's pretty good. better than the cinerama albums. I wish there was a little more sloppyness and jangle.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 17 January 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I read that as "I wish there was a little more sloppyness and jungle."

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

better than the cinerama albums

This is like saying, "it's better than a yeast infection".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I have played this album for two women, both of whom confirm that yes, listening to it is more pleasant than having a yeast infection. As for which they’d rather have in their vaginas, however, both would prefer a yeast infection over this CD, with or without the case.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link

this thread has prompted a spontanious WP revival in my house. dragged out some favourites, turned the volume RIGHT up.. I recommend it.

nick.K (nick.K), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Nabisco has upset my tender sensibilities.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

hey! it's, er, a cinerama album in disguise. an unconvincing disguise at that.

i'm not sure whether i'm disappointed or not. after one listen, there are three standouts: it's for you, perfect blue and the frankly jaw-dropping eight-minute version of interstate 5, which turns into a wonderful ennio morricone pastiche. but in terms of instrumentation - trumpets! strings! pianos! - it just ain't the weds. and i can't help feeling slightly short-changed.

still, that's after just one listen: i need to spend more time with it. and the lyric to marks sparkles down on me (i think that's what it's called) is one of his best yet.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

erm. mars. not marks.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

a cinerama album in disguise. an unconvincing disguise at that.

Well, that settles it then. Thanks for saving me time and money!

Bimble... (Bimble...), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, so the last Cinerama album practically sounded like TWP inasmuch as it was far less richly augmented by strings than "Disco Volante", and now Gedge makes a TWP album and it sounds like Cinerama? Even though a couple of the songs on it are rebadged Cinerama songs, even some put out under that name, this is bloody odd.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link

this is bloody odd

yes. it is.

i can't wait to see TWP live in march to see if they do cinerama songs as part of the set.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link

If they don't start with "Kennedy", it's not the Weddoes. Rule.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 11:15 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
so. anybody else see them at the qmu in glasgow last night? they were absolutely fucking godlike. "crawl" as the second song! also: "spangle"! "my favourite dress"! "take me"! oh, oh. they were so good. SO good. and now i have to do them justice in a review. arses.

gedge could well be god, you know.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 5 March 2005 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link

agreed. i love the new album, but then, i think torino was a hell of a lot better than, say, watusi.

paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i had a hard time getting past how old gedge looked last time i saw cinerama, then he went on and whined about how no one in denver came to see them. bah.

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
tour closer last night in SF was incredible. New songs measured up well performed live; Perfect Blue, in particular, a real feedbacky shoegazey throwback ending for that one. Lots of talk about coming back next year as well.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 16 May 2005 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Dalliance and Dare back to back near the end of the set killed. They were excellent.

wmlynch (wlynch), Monday, 16 May 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
they are going to play in frankfurt on friday!

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link

today i got given a compilation of "wedding present singles, 2004-2005". this seems like overkill. "disc one is a CD compilation of the first three wedding present singles for scopitones. disc two is a DVD compilation of the accompanying promotional videos." it says here.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

today i got round to listening to it. and you know what? it's bloody brilliant. acoustic versions/remixes/B-sides. really. it's ace.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmmm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

the frankfurt concert was pretty good. i wrote a little something about it in my blog.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I just read that TWP have an Albini-produced new one coming out in May.

I'm of the opinion that "Albini-produced" is rarely a liability, but when it comes to the Wedding Present, it's a definite PLUS.

Usual Channels, Thursday, 3 April 2008 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link

New songs sound pretty good, from what I can make out of the poor sound-quality YouTube clips of recent WP gigs. Faster, choppy-pop type Weddoes, rather than the long, droney-rock Weddoes of Take Fountain.

DavidM, Thursday, 3 April 2008 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

awesome. i knew there was an album coming up but didn't realise it was albini-produced. get in.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 3 April 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm, the Albini news is good. But my general feeling is that the more they stretch out on longer instrumental drones or extended jangles, the better ("Take Me," "Favorite Dress," "Interstate 5," "Suck").

paulhw, Thursday, 3 April 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I heard 3 of the new songs at their SXSW set in March, didn't impress me much, unfortunately...

Albini produced is more often good news than bad, though.

stephen, Thursday, 3 April 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link


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