"I now hate hip hop, the more I've educated myself about music, the more I've grown to hate it. I don’t use that word lightly, either."
"The change on the new record is me taking steps to try to be regarded as a proper songwriter and not just someone who writes lyrics. Those efforts could lend the idea that ive commercialised what I do, but when I think of the greatest records I've heard, everything from nirvana to my bloody valentine to miles davis and elvis, there's a lot you can do within the traditional framework of traditional songwriting."
"The people behind hip hop don’t know anything about music theory or have any appreciation for other kinds of music outside hip hop. I challenge anyone to show me a case where theres actual musicality."
kerrang: Explain why you – a rapper –hate hip hop?
"Every genre of music you can think of has more shit in it than it does gold; what I'm thinking about is the fact that I would be surprised if anyone could show me someone who's made a hip hop record who could actually read music."
kerrang: Why should musicians have to be able to read music?
"Because I'm a snob and that’s what I'm looking for and what I appreciate. I'm as elitist a bastard as you could possibly find."
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:11 (twenty years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:12 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago)
Anyway, what I can do, is give you my top ten for this year. It goes like this:
1. Alan Lomax - Blues Songbook2. Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - Master and Everyone3. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever To Tell4. Bic Runga - Beautiful Collision5. the White Stripes - Elephant6. The Kills - Keep On Your Mean Side7. Roscoe Holcomb - Untamed Sense of Control8. The Strokes - Room on Fire9. Radiohead - Hail To The Thief10. Broadcast - Ha Ha Sound"
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:15 (twenty years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:17 (twenty years ago)
― Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:21 (twenty years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:22 (twenty years ago)
― jake b. (cerybut), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― Gregory T (tubesocks), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:32 (twenty years ago)
― chuck, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:32 (twenty years ago)
― chuck, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago)
― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:40 (twenty years ago)
the irony is that reading this all I could think of is all the critic fans he has that he'll be pissing off!
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:41 (twenty years ago)
I think the second part of the sentence is far more deluded from the first. That's way more elitist than anything else he said.
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:45 (twenty years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:46 (twenty years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:46 (twenty years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:49 (twenty years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago)
― g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago)
He is a pretty lousy rapper-qua-rapper, but he's a very impressive hip hop artist.
― Huck, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago)
(xpost)
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago)
― chuck, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago)
― chuck, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago)
― Huck, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:04 (twenty years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:06 (twenty years ago)
xpost
Scott Woods and Phil Dellio are from Toronto, and they are both great.
― chuck, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:06 (twenty years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:07 (twenty years ago)
― Huck, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:08 (twenty years ago)
(xpost keshia chante > olp!!)
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago)
But, I don't know, maybe it's more out west, or maybe it's that I keep having run ins with the worst. But, um, yeah, I have some specific beefs with some maybe not-so significant rockcrits who perpetuate the myth that hip hop is only legitimate when it apes singer/songwriter conventions.
― Huck, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago)
― Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago)
― Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:18 (twenty years ago)
― Huck, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:18 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:21 (twenty years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:21 (twenty years ago)
― Huck, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:22 (twenty years ago)
after your "$1.65" post I'm not sure anymore. Weirdo.
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago)
OTM.
(Also: wtf ever happened to Teena Marie, anyway?)
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago)
i guess he's alright after all.
165/5 = 53. dunno what that means?
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:11 (twenty years ago)
Didn't Chuck say she had a new album last year?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:14 (twenty years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:15 (twenty years ago)
― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:16 (twenty years ago)
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:21 (twenty years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:26 (twenty years ago)
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:29 (twenty years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:32 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:33 (twenty years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago)
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago)
― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 02:25 (twenty years ago)
"Hello, this is Buck 65 writing in a pre-emptive attempt to address the little controversy brewing over my recent Kerrang! interview. In the interview I said that hip-hop people are ignorant, have no appreciation for other genres of music and that I'd be surprised if anyone could show me an example of a rapper that could read music. I'm apologising for all that. I lost my cool on tape, which is never good. The journalist was provoking me, calling me a sell-out and a whore. I was trying to make a point by playing devil's advocate, but I went way overboard. No hint of irony or role-playing or intelligence came across in the story. Now I just look like an idiot. I don't think being able to read music is a concern. Most of my favourite music was made by non-educated musicians. I still have heavy criticisms of most hip-hop, but I really didn't make them well on this particular day.
Posted by Buck 65"
― Eoin Quigley (Eoin), Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:24 (twenty years ago)
what a douche
― gershy, Saturday, 7 July 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)
this thread may be the last time I heard anything about Buck 65.
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 July 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)
awwwww, illusions shattered pt. 5,000,000
; ; ^
― wanko ergo sum, Saturday, 7 July 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)
does he still hate hip-hop? Or has he taken a few political science courses? or has he read Howard Zinn?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 03:06 (seventeen years ago)
He's had his passion for hip-hop reawakened by Kanye West, like so many broadsheet music critics.
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 08:22 (seventeen years ago)
A sensible rapper for once.....
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 08:27 (seventeen years ago)
i think the word you're looking for is "white".
― jed_, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 13:49 (seventeen years ago)
confounding sentence in vv review:
Nova Scotian fringe rapper Richard Terfry's version of old-school harks back to 1957, before rock 'n' roll itself, but he's never sounded more hip-hop in his life.
before rock'n'roll? itself? 1957?
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 9 November 2007 05:42 (seventeen years ago)
takes a long time for things to get to the maritimes?
― hstencil, Friday, 9 November 2007 05:54 (seventeen years ago)
First half of the new album is fatastic.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 9 November 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago)
!
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 9 November 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago)
the more ive educated myself about hip-hop, the more i hate buck 65
― and what, Friday, 9 November 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago)
ppl are allowed to hate hip-hop.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 9 November 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago)
or say they do. or not be sure.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 9 November 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago)
this album blows
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 9 November 2007 17:56 (seventeen years ago)
self-hating rapper
― Jordan, Friday, 9 November 2007 17:59 (seventeen years ago)
I'd guess that at least a few big hip-hop producers know how to read music, if not rappers as well.
― Hurting 2, Friday, 9 November 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago)
herbhop. worst song titles. not lyrical.
― Humphry, Friday, 9 November 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago)
he dont even get 2 hot tracks just mundane post blink pop punk
― Humphry, Saturday, 10 November 2007 09:57 (seventeen years ago)
bullshit
Completely ignorant. How many pop musicians read music? I know they don't all do it.
I'm a musician and I read it but I don't hold those who don't in contempt.
Besides, hip hop rules.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 12 November 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago)
Explain why you – a rapper –hate hip hop?
― buzza, Monday, 5 January 2009 06:32 (sixteen years ago)
This fifteen track record is a highly unconventional take on the world of hip hop, even for a guy like Buck 65, who is at the forefront of the experimental rap frontier. The most stand out element of the album is its highly ambient, composer-esqe electronic nature, which is a signature of G.F.T.’s work; constantly shifting intensity, tempo, and mood.
The most impressive aspect of this record is Buck 65’s ability to deliverer lyrics that flow effortlessly with the unconventional beats. And beyond that, Buck 65 has taken his stylistic approach to rap and kicked it up to a new level, delivering thought provoking introspective spoken word- like lyrics worthy of Def Jam acclaim.
In order to be fully appreciated, More Heart Than Brains needs to be listened to multiple times. Due to the highly unorthodox sound it presents, it might fool unfamiliar listeners into thinking it’s simply a dark and depressed record. However, once the newness has been absorbed, the tone and feeling of the album drastically brighten as new aspects are revealed.
http://www.urb.com/features/1486/INTERVIEWBuck65onBikeForThree.php
― velko, Monday, 29 June 2009 19:37 (sixteen years ago)
Hahahahahaha. "the forefront of the experimental rap frontier."
― maciej recognizing trill, Monday, 29 June 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)
thought provoking introspective spoken word- like lyrics
― velko, Monday, 29 June 2009 20:58 (sixteen years ago)
some very ambiguous hyphenation going on there
― thomp, Monday, 29 June 2009 21:22 (sixteen years ago)
like apparently there are words in his lyrics
alternatively, he delivers thought-provoking introspective spoken-word, as lyrics worthy of Def Jam acclaim also do
― thomp, Monday, 29 June 2009 21:23 (sixteen years ago)
google translated from german, surely
― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Monday, 29 June 2009 21:27 (sixteen years ago)
Buck 65 delivers thoughts that provoke in you, the listener, introspective spoken words, which are like lyrics that Def Jam would acclaim. Those introspective spoken words will be, "Why am I listening to Buck 65?"
I have broken the code.
― dad a, Monday, 29 June 2009 21:38 (sixteen years ago)
I remember when Talkin Honky Blues came out and it got a lot of broadsheet kisses and I bought it thinking it sounded pretty cool and it wasn't. I expected some sort of dustbowl Timbaland-futurism-as-Mad-Max-dystopia but instead you just get this dry, grooveless shallow record with lame "left of centre" lyrics. It just sounded like, yeah, hiphop for people who don't like hip hop. That's not entirely true, there was one that was okay in a rubbish asher roth omg i'm totally white lyrics way. I'd be pretty surprised if his lyrics were really thought-provoking now.
― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Monday, 29 June 2009 21:53 (sixteen years ago)
Just heard a song by this guy on YouTube, and it's probably in the bottom 5% of the absolute worst shit I've ever heard. Excruciatingly awful, how-the-fuck-did-this-guy-get-a-record-contract bad. Why does anyone like this guy? And what the fuck is with his comments at the top of this page?
― Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 04:07 (fourteen years ago)
This sort of thing is pointless, but I love making lists… So, what the heck, here’s my list of my favorite albums of 2010:
1. Karen Elson – The Ghost Who Walks2. Sage Francis – Li(f)e3. Sleigh Bells – Treats4. Neil Young – Le Noise5. Joanna Newsom – Have One On Me6. Charlotte Gainsbourg – IRM7. Broken Social Scene – Forgiveness Rock Record8. Sufjan Stevens – The Age Of Adz9. Jack Rose – Luck In the Valley10. Cut Chemist – Sound Of The Police
Honorable mentions to Glasser, Scout Niblett, Shad, Frazey Ford, Warpaint, Land Of Talk, Curtis Plum and Sharon Jones.
It should also be noted that the records I listened to most in the last year were all old records. The record I listened to most in 2010, once again, was probably Pink Flag by Wire, followed closely by Yo! Bumrush The Show by Public Enemy.
That’s all for now.
Buck
― buzza, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 04:27 (fourteen years ago)