― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:25 (twenty years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:32 (twenty years ago)
― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:34 (twenty years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:26 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:33 (twenty years ago)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:34 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago)
1. Eminem - "In Da Club"2. Creed - "How You Remind Me"3. Savage Garden - "Jesus Christ Pose"
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:43 (twenty years ago)
4. Alanis Morrissette- One of Us5. Hole- I'm Only Happy When It Rains6. The Crystal Method- Born Slippy
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:46 (twenty years ago)
(It wasn't).
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:59 (twenty years ago)
― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 22:11 (twenty years ago)
― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 22:20 (twenty years ago)
― carel, Friday, 3 September 2004 20:46 (twenty years ago)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:07 (twenty years ago)
So have we talked about this yet?http://www.ultimatechart.com/
More info:http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/22/arts/music/22singles.html
― jaymc, Monday, 2 August 2010 16:47 (fifteen years ago)
interesting. i saw a chart that seemed to try to do something similar a few years ago -- i remember on that chart, adam lambert's american idol performance of "mad world" was able to chart somewhere in the 80s based solely on the huge number of views it got on youtube that week. i had no idea how legit it was, but it seemed interesting even though i never looked at it again.
here's what i don't get, though: is this supposed to be a u.s. chart or a worldwide chart? i mean, if it's supposed to be a u.s. chart, i seriously find it very hard to believe that "waka waka" is THAT popular here, despite the tons of views the video has been getting online. and considering how much i STILL hear jason derulo's "in my head" on the radio, it's strange to see that just a few spots ahead of miley's "the climb" (which also has a very popular video -- it seems safe to say that the teenpop stars like her and bieber stand to benefit a lot from this chart's formula). perhaps i'm just so used to billboard's popularity formula.
other thoughts:
- i doubt people will be super willing to start paying attn to this over billboard. there's a whole online subculture-ish thing with people who obsessively watch itunes sales rankings and airplay audience impression updates. these people aren't brilliant by any means -- they're mostly stans for certain popular artists -- but yet, if you give them the sales and airplay data for that week, they're able to predict the entire billboard hot 100's top 10 with near-perfect accuracy. they like seeing the data and being able to tell how that maps onto the billboard chart. for people to start taking this new chart seriously, i think they would have to see the actual correspondence between the real data and these strange-looking subscores each song is getting, lest they think the entire methodology is dubious and too ambitious. publishing component charts for everything that figures into its formula (as billboard does with digital songs, radio songs, etc.) would be a huge step to giving this project more credibility.
- songs with "event videos" like gaga's "bad romance" will last a lot longer and do a lot better on this chart. i suppose that makes sense.
- the hot 100 has built in a way to retire extremely popular "recurrent" songs that's actually quite nice -- that way you don't have songs like "i gotta feeling" hanging around for TWO years when one year is certainly enough. it's pretty simple but reasonably effective: the song drops out if it goes below the top 50 if it's been hanging around for 20 weeks or longer. this chart evidently has no such thing, as "hot n cold" is in the 70s and actually rose this week.
― teledyldonix, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)
and if it IS a u.s. chart, they need to make sure they're only taking into account youtube views, etc. from the u.s. only. i don't know how easy or difficult that is -- perhaps they're already doing it.
― teledyldonix, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)