Musicians who never hid their homosexuality:1. Rufus Wainwright2. Beth Ditto of the Gossip (she is gay, right?)I don't know who else.
Stars who claimed to be bisexual when they were really just gay:1. Elton John2. Michael Stipe
Stars who claimed to be bi when they were really just straight:1. David Bowie2. Madonna
Stars who finally came out:1. George Michael2. Rob Halford4. Bob Mould5. Melissa Etheridge
(I already counted Elton and Stipe.)
These are very short lists cuz I can't think of much to say, although I wanted to start a thread on this (without bothering to look for anything else on it here).
Stars who are probably in the closet:1. Michael Jackson
If anyone has anything to add, please do. :P
― Nowell, Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:28 (twenty years ago)
The Queers,The Homosexuals,Pansy Division, Gaye Bykers on Acid.
One of the bandnames I came up with for one of my bands (which was promptly rejected by the other members) was 'Trevor Gaye and the Raving Homosexuals'.
― Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:34 (twenty years ago)
― Nowell, Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:37 (twenty years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:39 (twenty years ago)
― Nowell, Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:41 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:43 (twenty years ago)
― Nowell, Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago)
In this thread you *had* asked whether Freddie Mercury was gay or bi but the moderator changed it:My ass hurts
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:52 (twenty years ago)
....I gotta stop using that word.
― Nowell, Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:53 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 2 September 2004 04:08 (twenty years ago)
― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 2 September 2004 05:39 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 2 September 2004 07:34 (twenty years ago)
Morrissey?
Jimmy Sommerville (+Bronski Beat, Communards...), Frankie Goes To Hollywood, Marc Almond.
There's a rumour that Boy George might have been a homosexualist.
A lot of these were 80s stars, weren't they? Is it harder to be gay and be a pop star now, do you think? Will Young being an exception, because they didn't have much choice about promoting his record after he'd come out.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 2 September 2004 07:54 (twenty years ago)
― mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:00 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:03 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:04 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:06 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:09 (twenty years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 2 September 2004 09:04 (twenty years ago)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cornwall/blast/images/fame_academy_230803/alex.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39730000/jpg/_39730465_will_young_pa.jpg
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:18 (twenty years ago)
After Will Young/Alex Parks, it's scarcely an issue these days (in the UK at least). 80s out-gay (or even semi-out: Marc & George) pop stars tended to reference their sexuality more directly, so tend to be the first people that spring to mind. Much less in-yer-face gayness in the UK charts these days, I would agree (as opposed to all that homo-friendly, Saturday-night-PA-at-G.A.Y., I-love-ze-gays stuff, of which there is a veritable barrel-load).
BTW, I didn't know about Mark Eitzel until today's Guardian interview. Or maybe I did, then forgot. Basically, the time for compiling these sorts of lists has rather passed, hasn't it?
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:31 (twenty years ago)
― maria b (maria b), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:34 (twenty years ago)
Point proven.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:45 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:51 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:52 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:01 (twenty years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:15 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:28 (twenty years ago)
And cuz I like music.
― Nowell, Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:31 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:33 (twenty years ago)
― Nowell, Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:35 (twenty years ago)
― frankE (frankE), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:36 (twenty years ago)
― Nowell, Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:39 (twenty years ago)
― reo, Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:24 (twenty years ago)
― reo, Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:29 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:51 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:52 (twenty years ago)
Don't forget kd lang, Placebo (2 of them?), members of Le Tigre, and Samantha Fox is dating a woman now.
Oh and Michael Jackson is a pedophile, not a homosexual.
― Seb (Seb), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:45 (twenty years ago)
He's straight these days, yeah, married with children and all that. Haven't heard anything about this being a closet situation, tho.
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago)
― Sasha (sgh), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:38 (twenty years ago)
See also Larry Heard, and a rediculous amount of house producers.
― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Friday, 3 September 2004 03:14 (twenty years ago)
If you really want to talk about "Gay" records, Peter Catham "A Man's Mouth" LP from 86' is the sucking synth gay name game. It's got Wolf Eyes wriiten all over it.
Tom Smith just re-issued the XEX record, very gay synth action from South River NJ ca. 1980...
more for your "list"... Cage, Ornette, Cecil...Sun Ra?
The gay summer ends with a Re-issue of Arthur Russell's "World of Echo" LP, in the stores any day. It is the statement that all the other material out there has been leading up to. It's his most personal work. Steve Knutson played me the DVD (Arthur playing at Niblock's) and it will touch your soul and should make you shiver whether you make lists of gay musicians for amusement or not.
all the best, Charlie Sexton
― john allen (john allen), Friday, 3 September 2004 04:10 (twenty years ago)
As for The Homosexuals, I always kindof assumed they probably *weren't* mostly gay because that would be too obvious or something.
― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 3 September 2004 04:19 (twenty years ago)
― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 3 September 2004 04:21 (twenty years ago)
http://www.audikarecords.com
― john allen (john allen), Friday, 3 September 2004 04:31 (twenty years ago)
Ornette Coleman is gay? I never knew that. I think Sun Ra might've been more or less asexual cuz of some congenital testicular abnormality? At least that's what I heard.
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 3 September 2004 05:56 (twenty years ago)
e.g. Kylie...
― Jacob (Jacob), Friday, 3 September 2004 06:20 (twenty years ago)
Two summer anthems so far and counting...
― Jacob (Jacob), Friday, 3 September 2004 06:21 (twenty years ago)
This is either totally the shite or totally shite.
― TWEEPTO BISMOL, Friday, 3 September 2004 06:31 (twenty years ago)
Rockers: Freddie Mercury, Erasure.
― Anonymous Coward, Friday, 3 September 2004 07:17 (twenty years ago)
― Oh, Friday, 3 September 2004 07:25 (twenty years ago)
He was pretty indignant about it. I don't blame him, actually. That said, there is some irony in the bloke who wrote 'Glad To Be Gay' (bloody depressing, and in my opinion not very good, song) now being married with children.
x-post I don't think the Silent Pet Shop Boy is in the closet, so much as he hasn't decided to make an issue of his sexuality. The two aren't necessarily the same. What was that video a few years back with all the water-slides and pretty people? Chris Lowe didn't seem to be in the closet on that one.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 3 September 2004 07:34 (twenty years ago)
Rollins was dogged by controversy around the time of 'End Of The Silence' and Joe Cole's death, mainly because he threatened to beat up anybody who claimed he was gay. It seemed (at the time) like a clear case of 'the boy protesteth too much'. He got all stalkery over Joan Chen to try and prove how hetero he was, iirc.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:11 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:48 (twenty years ago)
Marc Almond, Andy Bell (Erasure), Roddy Bottum (Faith No More/Imperial Teen), Richard Coles (Communards), Wayne/Jayne County, Tony De Vit, Stephen Gately (Boyzone), Boy George, Divine, Mark Eitzel, Joel Gibb (Hidden Cameras), Rob Halford (Judas Priest), Grant Hart (Husker Du), Larry Heard (Mr Fingers), Jobriath, Elton John, Holly Johnson, Andrew Kinlochan (Phixx), Frankie Knuckles, Jeppe "Senior " Laursen (Junior Senior), Johnny Mathis, Little Richard, Chris Lowe, Freddie Mercury, Stephen Merritt, George Michael, Bob Mould, Klaus Nomi, Pansy Division (all members), Tom Robinson (now married), Felipe Rose (Village People), Rupaul, Arthur Russell, Paul Rutherford (Frankie Goes To Hollywood), Fred Schneider (B-52's), Richard Sohl (Patti Smith Group), Jimi Sommerville, Michael Stipe, Keith Strickland (B-52's), Sylvester, Neil Tennant, Rufus Wainwright, Will Young.
Joan Armatrading, Madeleine Bell (Blue Mink), Carrie Brownstein (Sleater-Kinney), Tracey Chapman, Ani DiFranco, Beth Ditto (The Gossip), Melissa Etheridge, Samantha Fox, Janis Ian, Indigo Girls (both members), kd lang, Me'Shell N'DegeOcello, Sinead O'Connor, Alex Parks, Linda Perry (4 Non Blondes), Phranc, JD Samson (Le Tigre), Kate Schellenbach (Luscious Jackson), Michelle Shocked, Jill Sobule, Dusty Springfield, Josephine Wiggs (The Breeders), Thalia Zedek (Come).
That enough ammo for ya, Nowell?
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:44 (twenty years ago)
― Nowell, Friday, 3 September 2004 21:51 (twenty years ago)
Michael TippettLeonard Bernstein John CagePierre Boulez Benjamin BrittenHarry Partch Camille Saint-SaƫnsMichael Tippett Franz Schubert (probably)Francis PoulencAlexander ScriabinFrederic ChopinHans Werner Henze Samuel BarberNed RoremPyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky Dame Ethel Smyth
― Frogman Henry, Friday, 3 September 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago)
― Nowell, Friday, 3 September 2004 22:25 (twenty years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 3 September 2004 22:58 (twenty years ago)