"out there - the future of prog rock"

prog metal so far. apparently recorded (it sez 'ere) after their main songwriter split b/c he found GOD. Seeing as how his songs make my ASS DRAG, this might be ok perhaps?

3/Cave in "youth overrided"

these are actually young apparently, not old farts like me.

So far it just sounds like indie, perhaps a little little bit levitationish.

I have and dig mightily, their album "A tab in the ocean", which is RIDICULOUSLY ott pomp. This is from a recent reformation album apparently.

This Nektar track is terrible. I'm losing heart w/this, I think I'll take a break.

1/ god I hate prog-metal. I HATE prog-metal. Especially if it DOES NOT ROCK.

2/ retro fever = general malaise of modern musick, prog rock as much as any more mainstream style. "I've heard it before" = why I am enjoying this no more than the Guardian CD or the Bang CD.

3/ 5 tracks in, I've yet to hear anything that isn't just sadly half assed, just like the Guardian CD and the Bang CD. I WANT TO HEAR SOMETHING I LIKE.

Sundar - no, I haven't listened to that, usually, I trawl prog rock messageboards for band's pages, and listen to the mp3 samples I see there.

1/compound time signiatures

2/use of electronics/keybrds that doesn't sound like some lame attempt at "contemporary electronica" or use of mellotron as a stylistic signifier

3/less guitars for fucks sake.

4/less singing.

5/less "structure"

6/more use of dynamics? WTF is the point of the whole track just riding along at the same fucking level?

eh....

Jan Akkerman + Ummagumma (Pink Floyd tribute) + The Attack
ReGenesis (Genesis tribute) + Jadis + Strangefish
Fish + Carl Palmer + Magenta (2) + Audience

"Prog rock" isn't really happening in the UK at the moment.

-- udu wudu (guapotou...), September 3rd, 2004.

Are you in Guapo, the band, perchance?

Piero Scaruffi
http://www.scaruffi.com/ratings/2004.html

Ghost: Hypnotic Underworld (Drag City)
Pan Sonic: Kesto (Mute)
Fiery Furnaces: Blueberry Boat (Rough Trade)
Black Dice: Creature Comforts (DFA)
Devendra Banhart: Rejoicing in the Hands (Young God)
Charalambides: Joy Shapes (Kranky)
Paik: Satin Black (Strange Attractors)
Roitan: Roitan (Bulb)
Guapo: Five Suns (Cuneiform)
Comets On Fire: Blue Cathedral (Sub Pop)
Coastal: Halfway To You (Words On Music)
Pan American: Quiet City (Kranky)

"Piero Scaruffi, poet, historian and free thinker, is also a :

cognitive scientist
author
poet
music historian
film historian
free-lance journalist
software consultant"

Who reading this can say all that about themselves, huh? Well not me, that's for goddamn sure.

http://www.scaruffi.com/history/purchase.html
A History of Rock Music
a book written by Piero Scaruffi

my new book, "A History of Rock Music 1951-2000", a 550-page paperback, came out in october 2003. The text is roughly (roughly) the same that you can view here.

History of Rock Music
Long Version
http://www.scaruffi.com/history/long.html

Stuart Maconie @ The Freak Zone
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/freakzone/

I will look for the Guapo record. That's a nice list there.

http://www.neurotrecordings.com/home_upcoming-releases.aspx

-Upcoming 2004 Releases-
Grails, Redlight, release date: October 5, 2004

... also on the horizon
Red Sparowes (incl. members of Neurosis and Isis)
Guapo
Final
Neurosis & Jarboe vinyl
Tribes Of Neurot

that scaruffi guy is ok in my book

nice! they also did that pretty great tarantula hawk album.

1/ god I hate prog-metal. I HATE prog-metal. Especially if it DOES NOT ROCK.

OTFM!!!

check this band:

AHVAK
http://cuneiformrecords.com/bandshtml/ahvak.html
The Israeli band Ahvak, named after the Hebrew word for “Dust”, creates music of dark, ominous and compelling beauty. Ahvak's mesmerizing and electrified version of chamber rock blurs the boundary lines between styles and align the band with such Rock in Opposition style bands as Univers Zero, The Science Group, Sotos, Thinking Plague and the 5UUs. Led by two conservatory trained composers/keyboardists and also featuring guitar, bass and drums (by Dave Kerman, known for his work with the cutting edge avant/progressive bands 5uu's, Blast, Present, U Totem and more), the five musicians are joined by their engineer, Udi Koomran, who often extends the music into unique directions by his use of modern computer software, without compromising the integrity of the compositions or the vibrant performances. The resulting CD is a highly sophisticated and expertly produced work, featuring superb compositions performed by highly experienced musicians.

I quite like the first Asia album, although they're no Journey for sure.

I like the 1st Asia album as well, mainly because it seems to distill all of the best things about AOR/pomp rock into this ridiculous & enjoyable whole, plus steve howe is fucking great on it.

The IQ track is from their newest album, I forget the track title, it isn't the 20 minute one, obviously! It's the best track on the album, anyway. I didn't mention it much, b/c I'd heard it already, I really like IQ, and I have nearly all their albums. The IQ track really stands out on this comp.