Swell Maps vs. the Homosexuals

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this is being discussed on one of my other boards, and i can't believe they're siding with the homos.. whats ILXs take on this post-punk preposition?

― chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:34 (twenty years ago)

Homos a little more talent overall, I think. A little more songwriting excellence, considerably greater chops.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:37 (twenty years ago)

Exactly. SM it is then.

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:39 (twenty years ago)

swell maps had all the colour in the world, such vivid, dynamic songs.. utterly catchy (who could deny full moon, h.s. art, lets build a bridge, another song etc etc) and thoroughly warped/constructive (the b-side of 'a trip to marineville' is neigh unbeatable for crazy stews of disconnected ideas..)

― chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:40 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was only one idea ("let's fuck around and record it") but GREAT GREAT anyway

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:41 (twenty years ago)

i mean, i dig the homosexuals, and their ethic, approach and the actual songs themselves are crackers etc..
but the swell maps! epic soundtracks for a spaced out head.. these are my people

― chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:41 (twenty years ago)

well yeah, but i like how they could veer from almost perfect pop to chaos in a single song, without stretching..

― chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:42 (twenty years ago)

They beat them on names alnoe really. Epic Soundtracks, Swell Maps, BIGGLES BOOKS, etc.

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:47 (twenty years ago)

I'm still waiting for my Homsexuals CDs after ordering them 2 months ago from hyped2death, so I'll go for Swell Maps.

― mentalist (mentalist), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:47 (twenty years ago)

im still waiting on an insound order from over 2 months ago..

bastards gave me a 'split order' message waaay back when, then eventually deleted the item i was waiting for from the order, telling me that 'oh.. we don't split deliveries for international orders'

its funny.. they did LAST TIME this happened..bastards..

― chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago)

Like teh Swell Maps. Tough call overall. Why the vehemence over SM being so much fugging greata?

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:53 (twenty years ago)

YR NOT MOVING THE WAY YR SUPPOSED TO

― et, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 04:06 (twenty years ago)

I'll take the dadaist disco infernos of the homosexuals & assorted side projects, you buncha hippies.

― etc, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 04:07 (twenty years ago)

Someone hasn't heard "Let's Build a Car"

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 04:11 (twenty years ago)

let's buy a car!

― etc, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago)

I like how both groups had hippie aspects. Bruno Wizard had been a hippie, friend.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 04:28 (twenty years ago)

its a beatles vs. stones argument

― john allen (john allen), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 05:08 (twenty years ago)

swell maps. think the latest spasms of homosexuals love are due to the records being unavailable and lots of people hearing them for the first time. you know, the 'high profile reissue' thing.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 05:10 (twenty years ago)

The Homosexuals, and I started listening to them both around the same time (finding the Homosexuals LP at Princeton Record Exchange and my sister's copy of Marineville on tape circa 1994)

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 05:31 (twenty years ago)

the homosexuals were definitely more wide-ranging and inventive, but just a little too dry. "marineville" i could listen to all day every day for the rest of my life.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 06:13 (twenty years ago)

do they sound similar? cuz if so this Swell Maps Fan 4 Life finally wants to hear these Homos.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 07:38 (twenty years ago)

I say we ought to love 'em both!

Ooops, I guess then there'd be nothing to argue about . . . .

so let the L. Voag vs. Nikki Sudden solo career FITE begin . . .

(honestly I can't choose, and- confession time here- having just done Soft Pink Truth covers of both L. Voag AND Swell Maps songs I am feeling like more of a peacemaker than a side-taker)

― Drew Daniel, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 08:09 (twenty years ago)

"its a beatles vs. stones argument"

Not for me it isn't.

It's a Beatles-I've-known-for-the-last-25-years vs. Stones-I-hadn't-heard-'til-a-couple-of-months-ago argument.

Or do I mean a Beatles-I-hadn't-heard-'til-a-couple-of-months-ago vs. Stones-I've-known-for-the-last-25-years argument?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 08:48 (twenty years ago)

The best Homosexuals stuff is better than the best Swell Maps, but sadly Astral Glamour tells us that there wasn't much of the good stuff.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 09:19 (twenty years ago)

H O M O S E X U A L S
i only like a few SM songs but a BUNCH of HOMOs songs. Swell maps i first heard 5 years ago and Homos 2,5 years ago(thanks Dan)

― heroes + villains, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 16:05 (twenty years ago)

solo, nobody wins. I like some Jacobites stuff enough, and one song really slays me, Heart of Hearts or whatever, but most solo Nikki Sudden I find not to interesting, and most solo L Voag, other then the parts of The Way Out and Move, Amos and Sarah Goes Pop double 7" and the Nancy Sesay single, I find pretty uninteresting, and it's gotten harder to listen to over time. I have both Die, Trip Computer, Die! CDs but can't say I've listened to them more then once or twice.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Are you people on crack? I find the Homosexuals to be an interesting listen, but Swell Maps does laps around them. There is absolutely no debating this. "Jane From Occupied Europe" is only one of the greatest albums of all-time.

You may close this thread now,

― Hector Savage, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:13 (twenty years ago)

six years pass...

Wow, the Homosexuals are really good! I had them mixed up with the Queers or some hardcore band (I am American). I am putting them on my short list.

― Mount Cleaners, Friday, 24 June 2011 13:49 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

Anyone seen the Bruno Wizard documentary that's just released? Tempting..

― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 29 September 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago)

Agree there does not need to be a winner here - a fair comparison though.

― Hinklepicker, Sunday, 29 September 2013 21:47 (eleven years ago)

This sounds uncannily like the Homosexuals imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLAaAjEPIwA

― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 30 September 2013 15:16 (eleven years ago)

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