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Rhino's upcoming 4CD box set of 70s/80s garage stuff. this is the list of songs on it (from http://www.fleshtones.org/index.asp?inc=newsread&article=80):

1 Aardvarks You're My Loving Way
2 Bangles The Real World
3 Bangs Getting Out Of Hand
4 Barracudas I Can't Pretend
5 Barracudas (We're Living In) Violent Times
6 Biff Bang Pow The Chocolate Elephant Man
7 Chesterfield Kings She Told Me Lies
8 Chills Pink Frost
9 Church The Unguarded Moment
10 Cramps New Kind Of Kick
11 Crawdaddys I Can Never Tell
12 Creeps Down At The Nightclub
13 Cynics Cat And Mouse
14 dBs If And When
15 dBs I Thought You Wanted To Know
16 Dentists Strawberries Are Growing In My Garden (And It's Wintertime)
17 Died Pretty Out Of The Unknown
18 DMZ Busy Man (EP version)
19 Dream Syndicate Tell Me When It's Over
20 Droogs Ahead Of My Time
21 Dukes Of The Stratosphere 25 O'Clock
22 Dukes Of The Stratosphere Vanishing Girl
23 Flamin' Groovies I Can't Hide
24 Flamin' Groovies Yes It's True
25 Fleshtones The Girl From Baltimore
26 Fleshtones The World Has Changed
27 Funseekers Welcome To My Love
28 Fuzztones Bad News Travels Fast
29 Green On Red Death & Angels
30 Green Telescope Make Me Stay
31 Hoodoo Gurus I Want You Back
32 Hoodoo Gurus Like Wow - Wipeout
33 Hoods You Keep On Lyin'
34 Inmates Mr Unreliable
35 Inspiral Carpets Weakness
36 Jigsaw Seen My Name Is Tom
37 Julian Cope Sunspots
38 Laika and the Cosmonauts Psycko (Themes From Psycko & Vertigo)
39 LA's There She Goes
40 Last She Don't Know Why I'm Here (45 version)
41 Last LA Explosion
42 Leopards Psychedelic Boy
43 Lime Spiders Slave Girl
44 Lipstick Killers Hindu Gods Of Love
45 Long Ryders And She Rides
46 Lyres Help You Ann
47 Lyres Don't Give It Up Now
48 Milkshakes Please Don't Tell My Baby
49 Milkshakes It's You
50 Miracle Workers You'll Know Why
51 Mummies Test Drive
52 Nashville Ramblers The Trains
53 Nerves One Way Ticket
54 Nomads Where The Wolf Bane Blooms
55 Opal Northern Line
56 Optic Nerve Ain't That A Man
57 Pandoras It's About Time
58 Pandoras Stop Pretending
59 Plimsouls Everyday Things
60 Plimsouls Hypnotized
61 Point All My Life
62 Posies Apology
63 Posies I May Hate You Sometimes
64 Primal Scream Gentle Tuesday
65 Prisoners Whenever I'm Gone
66 Prisoners Far Away
67 Rain Parade One Half Hour To Go
68 Rain Parade You Are My Friend
69 Raybeats Tight Turn
70 Revillos Motorbike Beat
71 Revolving Paint Dream Flowers In The Sky
72 Salvation Army She Turns To Flowers
73 Screaming Trees Transfiguration
74 Sinners Barbed Wire Heart
75 Smithereens Beauty And Sadness
76 Smithereens Strangers When We Meet
77 Soft Boys Wading Through A Ventilator
78 Soft Boys I Wanna Destroy You
79 Spongetones (My Girl) Mary Anne
80 Spongetones She Goes Out With Everybody
81 Stems Love Will Grow
82 Stems She's Fine
83 Sting-Rays Don't Break Down
84 Sun Dial Plains Of Nazca
85 Swingin' Neckbreakers I Live For Buzz
86 Teenage Fanclub Metal Baby
87 Teenage Fanclub God Knows It's True
88 Tell-Tale Hearts Won't Need Yours
89 That Petrol Emotion It's A Good Thing
90 Three O'Clock With A Cantaloupe Girlfriend
91 Times I Helped Patrick McGoohan Escape
92 Unclaimed No Apology
93 United States Of Existence A Scandal In Bohemia
94 Unknowns Not My Memory
95 Untamed Youth Pabst Blue Ribbon
96 Vibrasonic Kingsley J
97 Vipers Tears (Only Dry)
98 Vipers Cheated And Lied
99 Watermelon Men Seven Years
100 Wondermints Tracy Hide (Cover version)

― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I've listened to "It's A Good Thing" by That Petrol Emotion 133 times. Why do I feel like I don't want this even though I haven't heard a lot on it. What's wrong with me?

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

:-(
i'll be downloading 1/4 of it only, if that

― rockstar, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Notable ommissions: Foreigner "Dirty White Boy," Ted Nugent "Wango Tango," Ratt "Round and Round," Brownsville Station, Earthquake, Celibate Rifles, Angry Samoans, Santa Esmeralda, and lots of other things. That said, probably not an awful selection, despite all the emaciated powerpop crap and twice as many Fleshtones as Nomads cuts. (The Fleshtones, as I recall, were sort of like if everybody in your band thought he was Fred Schneider, only worse.)

― chuck, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to like the song "Hexbreaker" by the Fleshtones when they played it on the college radio station all the time.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The comp also seems to rely way too heavily on jangly l.a so-called paisley underground stuff, when you had way more garagey punk bands like the zarkons and alleycats (for instance) coming out of the same town around the same time....also, where are the romantics?? and so on. lots of this just looks like an old college radio playlist to me.

― chuck, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Lime Spiders? That Petrol Emotion? The Hoodoo Gurus?

ugh

for once I agree with chuck (kinda sorta)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

shakey, the space/time continuum and life as we know it is in peril if you agree with chuck.

I stand by my love for that that petrol emotion song. it's perfect.

But Sundial and Opal along with The Mummies and the Long Ryders could give you serious whiplash.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

there's good songs on there for sure - I like a fair amount of that "paisley underground" stuff (Opal, Rain Parade, etc.), the Cramps (gawd I luuuuuv me some Cramps), Teenage Fanclub, the Dukes. But there's a bunch of faceless boring "college rock" that sucked the first time around and I was hoping to never have to hear again. I mean, THE SMITHEREENS?!? ARgggggh I pale at the very thought of the lead singer's soul-patch. Way too much wimpy, personality-less major label jingle-jangle hoo-hah, in my opinion.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i like the smithereens!

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

and why are the Inspiral Carpets on here? They're a Madchester band!

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

psychedelic organ

― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Lime Spiders

I got that song on a mix CD someone sent me in the mail! I love that song!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

and chuck is right though, there's way too much mellow shit on this

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

86 Teenage Fanclub Metal Baby?

wtf Children Of Big Star != Children of Nuggets

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard this Rainbow Quartz comp today that reaffirmed that any band that bothers to rip off The Flamin' Groovies is just sad.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Pretty disappointing list. Or is it just that that era is sorta dull in retrospect. Not all of it completely dull, but .. lots of trivia that Rhino couldn't resist.

― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha at least half those songs belong on a box called Byrdshit.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd prefer a Children of Back From The Grave or Children of Pebbles w/ some scuzzy eighties sonic youth, pussy galore, raunch hands, gories, pagans, oblivians, bassholes, teen babes-era redd kross, some jim dickinson & alex chilton stuff, hell i'd even throw in some angry samoans & minor threat doing "good guys don't wear white".

and were teenage fanclub or the mummies even around in the 80's? and if the cramps are in there, why no misfits or ramones?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Tell-Tale Hearts, Unclaimed, Pandoras, Mummies, Milkshakes, Lyres, Hoods, Fuzztones, Chesterfield Kings, etc. IS pretty much Children of Nuggets/Back from the Grave stuff.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.mmmeatshops.com/en/images/productCat/products/259.jpg

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

er, I meant Pebbles, actually.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"Children of Pebbles/Back from the Grave stuff" - to clarify

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there any talk of Rhino will re-releasing the Opal LPs (since they're licensing them for comps)?

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

As a whole, the songlist made me want to listen to an 808.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i think rev-ola had plans to do some opal reissues..

― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

between this and that 80's alterna box set, Rhino sure are championing the 80's College Rock revival. Thing is, no one else seems to be; is there even an audience for this thing?

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The tracklist looks about 1/3 great to me. Unfortunately, that 1/3 consists of mostly tracks (Chills, Dream Syndicate, Revillos, Nerves, Soft Boys, Tennage Fanclub) that do not fit the "Children of Nuggets" concept.

― briania (briania), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

also, re: the too much Power Pop criticism - like there isn't huge amounts of Power Pop in the other "Nuggets" sets, too?

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

This seems like three or four compilation ideas smooshed into one box set, leaving no one satisfied. I'm not sure what the Bang(les) have in common with the Swingin' Neckbreakers, or what the Chills have to do with the Raybeats. And not to be all fanboyish (though I can't help myself), but some of these song selections don't do the subjects justice. Your average late-30something (er, hi) could make you a better mixtape in an afternoon.

― mike a, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.chicken.or.kr/6food/images/popcorn.jpg ?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I appreciate the inclusion of 2 Posies songs, but one of those is totally early 90's and not 70's/80's, so they must not be very strict with the timeline here.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

To follow Chuck's line, Ted Nugent could be the only artist on both Nuggets and Children of Nuggets. The Nuge is like his own grandpa.

― briania (briania), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Nugent: i know only his Amboy Dukes album. there's something interesting, totally over-the-top etc in his solo discography?

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

?????????????????????????????????? His WHOLE solo discography is over the top, almost! I mean, he's TED NUGENT; what else would you expect??

And though "Wango Tango" is possibly not his most garage-punk-worthy track (not sure what is -- "You Talk Sunshine I Breath Fire", for its name? I dunno), it is definitely the most like "Wooly Bully."

I like Lime Spiders' "Slave Girl" better than anything by Teenage Fanclub or the Smithereens, by the way. (And I can't think of much flimsy powerpop on the original Nuggets, or Rhino's later fake Nuggets. Certainly not powerpop as flimsy as what's on this one.)

― chuck, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess their later British Nuggets CDs (which kinda sucked, in many ways) did partake in a bit of flimsiness, I suppose. But those ones did not deserve the Nuggets name either, as far as I'm concerned.

― chuck, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

this looks really boring, i suppose illustrating a possible difference between an event and its selfconscious revival

― amateur!!st, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

(Keep in mind Marco is indeed from Italy and I guess Monsieur Nuge doesn't have the same profile there as here. ;-))

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

rhino really needs to ease up with the thematic box sets.

― amateur!!st, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought the subject title said "chicken nuggets" at first. now im hungry, dammit!

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"Chicken Nuggets" would actually be a great title for the box set!

― briania (briania), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, the original Rhino "Nuggets" box might have had BETTER Power Pop than the one in this set (which I don't think I've heard a single thing from), but "Lies", "Don't Look Back", "Open My Eyes", "Live", "I Need You", "I Want Candy", "I Live In The Springtime" and "Mindrocker" all feel pretty Power Pop to me (I was gonna add "Sugar & Spice", "Sit Down, I Think I Love You", "The Little Black Egg" and "I Wonder" to that list too, but they're more Twee Pop aren't they?)

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i liked the brit nuggets box. there is a ton of great stuff on it. and it's very informative. but i'm not really a huge beat group fan. which is probably why i play those rubble boxes a lot more.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Mike A OTM above. Pat Thomas (who should know) has mentioned that Ryko was planning a Paisley Underground box in the late '90s but that the plug was pulled when the label re-scaled, and it looks like Rhino was trying to cover some of those bases here.

― Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

what is ryko up to nowadays? all their cash cows--elvis costello, david bowie, all that britfolk stuff--are no longer in their catalogue. i'm surprised they even exist at this point.

― amateur!!st, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"?????????????????????????????????? His WHOLE solo discography is over the top, almost! I mean, he's TED NUGENT; what else would you expect??"

actually, I know Nugent only because of his gun mania and his tenure with Amboy Dukes. He's not very popular here.
I saw the covers of his lp's, he seems so obviously over the top, but i was just asking if among his albums there's REALLY some gloriously dumb guitarness. Don't know, like Lord Baltimore, Montrose, Alice Cooper etc

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes. Tons. More than those other guys, even. (Glorious guitarness anyway; I wouldn't call it "dumb," though also I wouldn't use that word for those other guys.) Start with his first solo album, and work your way up. Even some of the late '90s/early '00s albums are quite worthy. Most of them blow away most of the Amboy Dukes stuff, in fact.

― chuck, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

dankeschen. "dumb" is probably just my pathetic way to hide the sense of guilt for having ignored these guys until three or four years ago. luckily, i had my road-to-damascus moment and i was saved!

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Thursday, 9 September 2004 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It's good to see the Cynics make the cut. They're one of the best bands ever to come from Pittsburgh.

― John Fredland (jfredland), Thursday, 9 September 2004 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

what is ryko up to nowadays?

they have Josh Rouse. and, er, i don't know who else...

― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Thursday, 9 September 2004 11:04 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

This sounds fine in the background so far. I'm not sure it's conceptually sound, but, you know, so what?

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

This is particularly interesting for me, because I was too young for 80's college rock and I do like jangly pop and have tried to explore (Paisley, Flying Nun, Let's Active/dB's, etc...), so it's nice to have this. It is misleading though to hitch this wagon to the Nuggets franchise.

― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

soooo whaddaya think http://pitchfork.com/news/35693-rhino-releases-la-nuggets-box-set I haven't gotten a Nuggets set since the UK one, but this seems kind of cool ...

― tylerw, Monday, 22 June 2009 21:54 (sixteen years ago)

ten years pass...

Oh man this still sounds so great.

― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 26 January 2020 03:05 (six years ago)

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