What one concert would you attend if you could travel back in time?

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Joy Division, Eindhoven, January 18, 1980.

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snazz, Monday, 13 September 2004 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The Guided By Voices show in Nashville I missed three weeks ago because I didn't find out about it until the day after it happened!

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 13 September 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

The screamy girls Ed Sullivan Beatles.
I would dress up like Andre 3000 and sit on the front row.
Then the universe would fold in on itself and the number one single of the last four years would be Eamon's "Fuck You".

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 September 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Finding out about a show one day late could be worse than finding out about it 24 years late -- it's not like I could've made it, from exurban Illinois at sixteen, to the Joy Division gig.

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snazz, Monday, 13 September 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Dylan - Rolling Thunder Revue tour

or

Neil's Tonight's The Night tour

or

The Dead in Europe, 72 (any date)

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 13 September 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fuck Fuck Fucks, Mount Druitt bowlo, last week

mentalist (mentalist), Monday, 13 September 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Forget the Beatles, Elvis, Sex Pistols, whoever -- YOU MISSED THE FUCK FUCK FUCKS!

snazz, Monday, 13 September 2004 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Howlin' Wolf, sometime in the 50's, any venue

rob.b, Monday, 13 September 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)

My favorite story on Howlin Wolf was one where he rode his motorbike onstage then climbed the stage curtains until they collapsed under his weight WHILE STILL SINGING.
Must've been something to see.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 September 2004 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)

In the 50's, this was?

snazz, Monday, 13 September 2004 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe the sixties. Dunno. It was in the liners to the Chess box set.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 September 2004 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Dang.

I don't think Ian Curtis did that at that Joy Division show.

snazz, Monday, 13 September 2004 06:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Hendrix at Woodstock, maybe, if it's not too obvious. I guess all of Woodstock would count as one concert, wouldn't it? Or maybe Monterey instead - I'd also get Ravi Shankar and The Who.

What about the premiere of the Rite of Spring? It would be weird to experience firsthand a riot you know will become an ironic piece of music history.

Maybe a LaMonte Young dream house in the 60s?

John Coltrane at Olatunji?

That Eindhoven show is pretty great, as live tapes go, though.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 13 September 2004 06:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"Pretty great" -- it's SHATTERING. Great sound, small venue, whole band in peak form. The video artifacts on "Here Are The Young Men" are incredible too -- way better than the stuff from Manchester. Unfortunately the Eindhoven footage appears to have been shot with a camera that ran out of film three minutes into each song.

Coltrane, Young, Stravinsky, Monterey festival, sure; but I wouldn't want to go to Woodstock, even forewarned about the brown acid. John Cage, maybe. No, fuck it. Eindhoven.

snazz, Monday, 13 September 2004 06:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd also get Ravi Shankar and The Who

Wait, both of them played at Woodstock too.

But you're right, it was kind of a muddy chaotic mess, wasn't it?

Hmmm, now that you bring up Cage, there's something to be said for a 60s happening - I just don't think it would beat out the other options.

I have Eindhoven and Amsterdam on the same tape - Which one is it where they do the sped-up proto-hardcore version of "Interzone".

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 13 September 2004 06:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Bob Dylan, Newcastle City Hall, England, 1966. there are other more famous concerts from this tour, (in fact i don't think this one has actually been bootlegged, although i could be wrong) but this is the one i would have gone to if alive at the time.

Officer Pupp, Monday, 13 September 2004 06:56 (twenty-one years ago)

robert rental and the normal at west runton pavillion,
throbbing gristle at oundle public school,
liaisons dangereuses, spk, blancmange at night moves, glasgow
swans at the edinburgh venue
the human league glasgow mayfair 1980

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Monday, 13 September 2004 06:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm listening to Violator right now and I'm getting pissed off that I never got to see them on this tour even when I had tickets. The girl's mom who was supposed to drive us to Atlanta got sick and no one else's parent would do it. Even though the group of us only had permits, we debated jacking a car and going anyway.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 13 September 2004 07:00 (twenty-one years ago)

(talking about Depeche Mode, of course)

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 13 September 2004 07:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Sundar, I lost Amsterdam to a former roommate several years ago, but I think you're thinking of the Eindhoven "Interzone" -- one thing that makes that show so great is that they ripped through a lot of those songs at top speed, with no loss of power and in some cases significant gain. Too bad you can hardly hear Curtis' backing vocal on it. And "Transmission" and "New Dawn Fades" from that show are absolutely definitive.

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(Throbbing Gristle. Now there's a thought. But I'm on this massive Joy Division trip at the moment, like you couldn't tell. Eindhoven.)

snazz, Monday, 13 September 2004 07:08 (twenty-one years ago)

From my book "An Ideal For Living: A History Of Joy Division" (which this thread has made me pull out) by Mark Johnson 1984:

"Eindhoven Holland Sunday 18 Jan 1980:
During the end of 'Ice Age' a group of English in the audience were jeering Joy Division by chanting 'One, two three, four. Get them off and out the door'. [sic] Peter, not always known for massive under-reaction, quieted the boisterous ones perfectly by playing the bass line from 'Dead Souls', [sic] their next song, in time with the shouts."

Now, how did this thread manage to accomplish making me pull this book out where other threads so similar didn't? Dunno.

Bimble (bimble), Monday, 13 September 2004 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Me, I'd choose the night Alan Hempshall, singer of Crispy Ambulance had to sing vocals for Ian because he wasn't feeling well. Maybe two songs.
But it was never bootlegged, and life is unfair.

Bimble (bimble), Monday, 13 September 2004 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't the singer from A Certain Ratio stand in for Ian Curtis once too?

snazz, Monday, 13 September 2004 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Either Coltrane at the '66 Newport Jazz Festival or any of the '69 Led Zeppelin/MC5 shows.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 13 September 2004 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Depeche Mode's "Concert For The Masses" Saturday June, 18th 1988 at the Rosebowl in Pasadena.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Monday, 13 September 2004 07:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Every once in a while, a shirt from the Rose Bowl show appears on eBay. I keep saying I'm going to eventually buy one, but never do. They need to reprint it!

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 13 September 2004 07:49 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the those go-go parties in DC, maybe with Minor Threat.

peepee (peepee), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Any Skynyrd show circa 1976. If the tapes are any indication, that must have been an EXPERIENCE ...

Chris O., Monday, 13 September 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I would really like to have been able to see Squeeze in their Argybargy/East Side Story prime, or maybe James Brown at his peak (though being a very white man, that could possibly be a very awkward experience...)

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 13 September 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh oh oh or The Clash. I really wish that I could have seen the Clash, maybe around the time Sandinista was out.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 13 September 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

the Velvet Underground when they played my home town of Cincinnati in late 1966 (w/Nico & Cale and the Warhol gang in tow). I was 8 y.o. then, which is my son's age now, so I'd like to regress to 8 as well to see what it's like and also how the VU experience would sound to a kid.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Talking Heads: Nakano Sun Palace, February 1981. Or, if I can bend the rules, The Beatles' "Day in the Life" session during the orchestra recording.

Ryan Pitchfork, Monday, 13 September 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Miles Davis, Tokyo, 2/1/75. The shows that were recorded for Agharta and Pangaea. If I had to pick just one, the Agharta show, of course.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 13 September 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Tonights the Night tour for sure.

Also, Pylon or the B-52's back when they were playing college parties.

danh (danh), Monday, 13 September 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh criminey...who knows? Sex Pistols at Winterland? Killing Joke's `80 NYC debut at the Rock Lounge? Kiss on the Destroyer tour? Too many to consider.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 13 September 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Depeche Mode's "Concert For The Masses" Saturday June, 18th 1988 at the Rosebowl in Pasadena.

You are so so right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 September 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

nah, depeche mode at the barrowland, glasgow 84. oh, hold on, i was there.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm gonna cheat, and I don't have the Joy Division clippings book with the complete article, but Futurama II, Sept 8, 1979, not just because of JD, but the dozens of other bands, which included Cabaret Voltaire, PiL, and tons of minor players we know and love.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

how 'bout the beatles at the cavern. or, hendrix at the monterrey pop. or, a sabbath gig at their height -- somewhere relatively small...would that have been possible?

Star Cauliflower (Star Cauliflower), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

During the end of 'Ice Age' a group of English in the audience were jeering Joy Division by chanting 'One, two three, four. Get them off and out the door'. [sic] Peter, not always known for massive under-reaction, quieted the boisterous ones perfectly by playing the bass line from 'Dead Souls', [sic] their next song, in time with the shouts."

This is totally the turning point of the gig. Up until then, they were a bit flat, but the jeering seemed to get them good and pissed off because from that point on they were astounding.

See also the Preston gig from April of that year -- compare before and after the technical difficulties (this is the JD gig I would have seen).

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

note to self: get Preston recording now-ish

snazz, Monday, 13 September 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Nov. 28, 1969 Madison Square Garden:

B.B. King
Tina Turner
Rolling Stones

Wow!

jim wentworth (wench), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. So many to choose from... It's gotta be Fuck Fuck Fucks, but which gig?

Trouble Hand, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Waits, Hammersmith Apollo, November 2004. (sic)

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Mahavishnu Orchestra, Central Park, NY; August 5, 1973
Magma, Theatre du Taur, Toulouse, France; September 4, 1975

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

how 'bout the beatles at the cavern.

Hate to brag but I did see Paul McCartney here in 1999. It was in Real Video over a dial-up modem and through my CPU's mono speaker, but he totally rocked the house.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll be predictable.

Duran concerts I'd have loved to attend:

March 12, 1979. Gig at the Rum Runner, featuring Andy Wickett on vocals and Roger Taylor as the "new drummer".
Sometime in January 1980. Duran opens for Fashion in Birmingham, UK.
December 12, 1980. Gig at The Venue, London. Sponsored by Rusty Egan (Rich Kids/Visage).
Sometime in May 1981. Duran play for the first time in the U.S., in Poughkeepsie, NY. According to the DD Timeline, the band "played to about eleven people". It would've been SO cool to have been one of those eleven.

March 5, 1984. Sing Blue Silver tour stop in Toronto, ON. Openers: The Payola$.
March 30, 1984. Sing Blue Silver tour stop in Greensboro, NC. Special guests INXS.

August 12, 1987. As part of David Bowie's North American Glass Spider tour. Believe it or not, The Outfield also took part in this concert. That actually makes it even MORE watchable.
August 31, 1987. Duran perform at the Beacon Theater in NYC. Special guests: Lou Reed and Nile Rodgers.

November 19, 1988. A concert at La Locomotive in Paris, billed as "The Krush Brothers".

Yeah, that should pretty much do it.

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm old enough to have seen some of the bands named here at the right time, though not at gigs named here - Joy Division, the Clash (four times in 77-78), Talking Heads on their first two visits to the UK.

My favourite live recording ever, and the most exciting record ever made, is Jerry Lee Lewis Live At The Star Club, in Hamburg, so that is very tempting (and there were shows featuring him, Little Richard, Chuck Berry and other stars!), but I think one of the big Stax revue tours, one with Otis, Sam & Dave and Booker T & the MGs, plus some others(I think there was at least one that also had Arthur Conley and Eddie Floyd, so that would be great), would get my vote. Were there any Hi package shows in the early '70s, with Al Green, Ann Peebles, O.V. Wright and Otis Clay? That might be even more appealing, perhaps.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Bending th' rules slightly.
I'd go back and re-experience the times I saw Bark Psychosis and Levitation live as they were both incredible. BP at Ronnie Scott's and any of the Lev's gigs from King Tuts in Glasgow in particular.

Failing that, Shudder To Think circa Pony Express Record.

mzui, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The Stockhausen performance of "Kurzwellen" that Ralf Hutter and Florian Schneider went to in Cologne in 1969 - as long as I got to drop acid with Ralfie and Florrie

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:46 (twenty-one years ago)

David Bowie, back when he was D!A!V!I!D! B!O!W!I!E!

Also - and this won't be universally popular here - like to go and see Melanie doing her concert in Carnegie Hall that was recorded and used for her album 'Leftover Wine'.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Madonna at the Hacienda '84 or whenever it was

the aforementioned Depeche Mode one in '88

808 State and Happy Mondays at the G-Mex '90

Orbital at Glasto '94

Prodigy in London '92 and at Glasto '95

Stereolab in London '96

Daft Punk and Basement Jaxx at the Astoria (again) '97

Portishead in NYC '98

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

"Futurama II, Sept 8, 1979, not just because of JD, but the dozens of other bands, which included Cabaret Voltaire, PiL, and tons of minor players we know and love."

1979 would have been the first Futurama, surely? I went to several Futurama's, the first time being in 1980 which I'm sure was Futurama 2....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

My only abiding memory of Futurama is of hundreds and hundreds of punks all trying to get some sleep on the freezing cold concrete floor of this absolutely enormously huge disused warehouse / factory somewhere in Leeds.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

My big sister was one of those hundreds and hundreds of punks all trying to get some sleep on the freezing cold concrete floor of this absolutely enormously huge disused warehouse / factory somewhere in Leeds.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you sure your big sister wasn't the one whose snoring was keeping all the rest of us awake?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

No, she was zonked out of her brain on Benylin for most of 1980

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

for me i'd say the sign o the times tour in paris, or stop making sense/speaking in tongues tour anywhere in 83.

ryan you r aware that 'gig' is featured on the fabs' anthology dvd? yeah thought so. that for me was the bit that made that tv show worthwhile when originally broadcast. i literally couldn't believe what i was seeing. orchestra in clown masks? check.
keef and mick and marianne sitting stoned on the studio floor ? check.
macca swanning about in a cool coat like 'this is my idea and it's going to rock'? check. fckng hell it's ace isn't it?

johnny yeah u missed a show and a half there. saw it aged 16 in birmingham (the penultimate show) but if you go here :

http://archives.depechemode.com/video/concertseries/900804_losangeles.html

you can see bits of a gig from the tour shot (not as amateurishly as you'd expect) in l.a.

you've probably seen this already!

piscesboy, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Would have been cool to be at Mancuso's loft ~ 1975.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Portishead in NYC '98

I saw Portishead in NYC at the Supper Club in `95. I still have the official coffee mug to prove it. They were absolutely amazing live, which quite surprised me, as Massive Attack live were, well, shit.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

...not that it's necessarily fair to lump them together like that, but still.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"No, she was zonked out of her brain on Benylin for most of 1980"

Really? Benylin? We used to prefer Actifed; which had some extremely interesting side-effects when consumed by the bottle and washed down with a bottle of Merrydown!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Sam Cooke at the Harlem Square Club 1963.

Joe Kay (feethurt), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

THE STOOGES! That Metallic KO night seems fine.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)


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