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Chewing Gum is the best single ever and it is going to be lucky to scrape the top 30 this weekend. The first Mania single was magnificent too and charted at number 29, Jentina's Bad Ass Strippa was also pretty great and managed a fairly wobbly number 22.

All three of these received lots of play on UK freeview music channels (on The Hits and TMF anyway) and Mania and Jentina both also had adverts on these channels with website URLs and them giggling in pavement cafes/stropping around in a boxing ring respectively. However, to my knowledge none of them were playlisted by radio one, I've no idea if local radio has picked up on them or not but it seems kind of unlikely. Also I am not amazingly up to speed with CD:UK preview things and stuff like this. So I get the impression that although there has been an effort made promotion/publicity-wise it does seem to have misfired fairly spectacularly, or absence of radio play has led to it not covering enough bases, or something.

SO: have these records "failed" because of a relative lack of publicity, or is it that maybe (UNTHINKABLY) the record-buying public are aware of them but, on the whole, Just Don't Like Them very much? With regard to the state of the (UK) singles chart at the moment (or within the last two or three years), does blanket publicity always result in significant top 20/10/5 success or can people think of examples of singles that seemingly got everything right on this front and still underperformed spectacularly?

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I've heard Chewing Gum a handful of times on Radio One, but not that much. I've certainly heard the forthcoming < whatever Robbie Williams is changing his name to > song more times, and I'm not even sure that's going to be a single.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

the idea of a teenage UK-born Romani gypsy rapping over beats by Timbaland makes me very happy for some reason.. but the song itself not quite so much.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The problem here is Franz Ferdinand.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

DJ Martian to thread!

"Chewing Gum" is great. There's something woozy and nauseous and dazed about it, too, though, like if it stood up it might fall over.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It is simple, Alex. We've all been flown in from a parallel universe where great pop ALWAYS GOES TO #1 and been forced to live in this world as punishment for some horrible act in a previous life.

― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

None of these singles was stocked by Woolworths, either.

Moral: if you don't get playlisted by Radio 1 or get stocked by Woolworths, you don't get in the top 20. That's the way of our wondrous modern world.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 07:56 (twenty-one years ago)

so was 'Stand Up Tall' played on daytime Radio 1 and available in Woolies then? maybe the dog and sheep puppets in the TV ad ensured it personally.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Well yes it was and yes it was. As was the "inappropriate for Radio 2" #8 hit album Showtime.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Are the UK media and outlets getting more hostile to European artists possibly? Similar to what's perceived as the attitude in the States (ignoring a whole load of great stuff from outside the country)? Maybe there's a sniffy attitude in the UK, so concerned are people with getting America to buy and rate British artists and accommodating American artists gleefully, but still thinking of Europe generally as the realm of the tacky novelty holiday hit (Dragostea Din Tei etc.). This could be totally wrong sure (acts like Royksopp sold and charted well enough here, and I'm sure the new Alcazar will be top 3) but it's a thought.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey annie
Girl look at you
Is that a new boy stuck on your shoe

Come on annie
how is it so
Youve always got a new bubble to blow

Im gonna tell ya how its gonna get done
Im just a girl thats only chewing for fun
You spit it out when all the flavour has gone
Wrap it round your finger like your playing with gum

Chorus*

oh no
oh no
youve got it all wrong
I think you think your chocolate when your chewing gum
oh no
oh no
A slip of the tongue
i think you think your chocolate when your chewing gum
oh no

Come hey annie
you used to be
The only girl to take it seriously
Come on annie
Tell us your trick
On how you keep on getting boys to stick
Okay ill tell you why you'll never love gum
Its my selection its my pick of the pack
Im hooked on, im the chewing machine
It makes me smile and keeps my teeth clean

oh no
oh no
Youve got it all wrong
i think you think your chocolate when your chewing gum
oh no
oh no
A slip of the tongue
I think you think your chocolate when your chewing gum

oh no
oh no
Youve got it all wrong
i think you think your chocolate when your chewing gum
oh no
oh no
your not the one
I think you think your chocolate when your chewing gum

talking*

I dont wanna settle down
I just wanna have fun
I dont want to settle down
I just wanna chew gum

oh no
oh no
youve got it all wrong
I think you think your chocolate when your chewing gum
oh no
oh no
A slip of the tongue
I think you think your chocolate when your chewing gum

oh no
oh no
youve got it all wrong
I think you think your chocolate when your chewing gum
oh no
oh no
your not the one
I think you think your chocolate when your chewing gum

La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

OH NO!

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope you cut-and-pasted those, because the your/you're usage is appalling.

― Your 5th Grade Teacher (rotten03), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Are popkids allowed to complain about worthy songs not reaching high enough in the charts? Surely that's just for people that right to The Vibe?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

that's the thing tho, Annie's not gonna reach the real pop kids it seems

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

(that's pop kids as in actual kids, without the baggage of indie guilt)

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the problem is that it reaches the Popkids, rather than the "pop kidz". There's a tendency to think that you can split that group by whether or not they know who, say, Stargate or Xenomania actually are.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post, obv)

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe...when i was a kid i HATED SAW but they were practically a household name even then. i'm not sure Stargate and Xenomania are but surely they could be in the same way SAW were?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

SAW were great when they wanted to be but they were over-productive and as a consequence their reputation was tarnished by releasing too much routine stuff. It's the same with Stargate and Xenomania and I suppose is the same with any pop factory, which makes Motown's high strike rate in the '60s (for instance) even more remarkable.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The question is complicated further as you can't even say that "real pop kids" don't go for metapop, because we've just had a song about writing a song come off number one!

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

but that's being bought by grown-ups only

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

tho if that were true, then there'd be no reason why Annie shouldn't sell more. it's a real pickle.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

And she's on The Streets' label to boot!

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah but you can't buy it in Woolworths and it's not being played on daytime Radio 1.

Don't you get it? That's how capitalism works. You're supposed to believe that everyone has an equal chance of success, but the system only rewards those it wants to. And very few others besides.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

In other words, the only records which become hits are the ones they WANT to become hits.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

eurgh...ok, so THE MAN is deciding that Annie or whoever should not be successful...for...some reason or another...

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely there's been enough out of leftfield top 20 singles this year to put any "held down by the man" concepts to bed?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

not for those who WANT to believe in that shit...

i think in reality it just boils down to the fact that nobody is really controlling things, therefore there's nobody to ensure 'fairness' here i.e. great pop getting the exposure you would think it ought to get.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean yes there are shepherds, and exceptional shepherds they are too, devising all kinds of clever ways of herding the flock. they're just not really interested in anything OTHER THAN herding sheep. and it seems, nor are the sheep.

actually this is the worst analogy yet, i'm sorry...

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, 679 don't seem to be able to guide anyone other than Little Mikey Skinner to the right outlets for full-on media saturation. 'Chewing Gum' has all the obvious ingredients for a hit except the support it really needs (club anthem status would be a big boon as well).

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I really think it is as simple as not being playlisted on radio 1 and therfore the single will fail, the local stations follow r1 and only after its prooved succesful on r1,

The only odd exception you get is a song thats been popular abroad and those from holiday are raving about it (a dance routine with these kinda songs also helps)

I think the question is why the powers that be at Radio 1 didnt like Annie/...

I think its cause it was single of the week in the NME (thats a kiss of death for a pop single in my book)

― secondhandnews, Thursday, 16 September 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Annie's not a name in the UK unlike Rachel Stevens or Girls Aloud so they can get away with this trendy electropop production and still have huge hits. Woe betide someone who tries to break the UK market with a formula like that minus the necessary credentials/grounding it seems.

I have trouble imagining 'Some Girls' getting that much airplay on Radio 1 or Capital or whatever too thought, and if it hadn't had Rachel's name applied to it perhaps it wouldn't have done well at all.

I would've thought Radio 1 would be receptive to any NME single of the week.

― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Thursday, 16 September 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.679recordings.com

Have a look in their 'artists' section. You'll notice all the artists have links to their external websites... except one. Guess who.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 September 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

some of the links jump straight to the external sites. no link for Annie at all but that strikes me as just shoddy flashcoding.

― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Thursday, 16 September 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps Radio 1 don't like it because it's crap.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Thursday, 16 September 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Fear not, I feel Chewing Gum will be rereleased in a few months and will go straight to number 1 (Just a hunch).

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 16 September 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

there are shepherds, and exceptional shepherds they are too, devising all kinds of clever ways of herding the flock. they're just not really interested in anything OTHER THAN herding sheep. and it seems, nor are the sheep.
-- stevem has reminded me of bb5's victor there.

it's not that capitalism is PUTTING DOWN the music deliberately; it's BLIND FORCES at work, somehow guiding the complex of insitutions (R1, PR companies, reocrd companies, chain store buyers) that constitutes 'the record industry'. a participant in this couldn't give you a decent answer. because they're all coked up to the eyeballs.

― HKM, Friday, 17 September 2004 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely it's not just a question of Radio1 coverage. Has she done promo on TOTP Saturday or CD:UK or any other weekend morning shows? I only know of her because of ILM and seeing the video once on TCM.

― mms (mms), Friday, 17 September 2004 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

hkm do you know who i am?

i would expect Annie's video to be on CD:UK Hotshots at least. if it's not cropped up on any terrestrial pop shows that's bizarre, there's no reason for it not to receive the same attention as Christina Milian, Joss Stone or whoever (to expect more would be totally unrealistic).

― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Friday, 17 September 2004 08:44 (twenty-one years ago)

no.

― HKM, Friday, 17 September 2004 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Rachel Stevens got away with dirrty Richard X electro because (a) she's Rachel Stevens and (b) it was for charidee. So Annie has about as much chance as LCD Soundsystem of getting on/in Radio 1/CD:UK/Woolworths because she is leftfield without the track record to allow her to get away with it.

Also, didn't you know? Dirrty electro metapop is last year's thing. The kids want REAL guitars and REAL songs like Jamie Cullum and the Libertines, or else they want crunkin' R&B joints 'cos that's the way it's going down!

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Friday, 17 September 2004 08:57 (twenty-one years ago)

nb stevem, no offense meant -- if you happen to work in the music industry or whatever, i don't *really* think everyone is perma-coked up.

but anyway i do think it's blind forces at work since marketing artists is such an imprecise science. marcello's sort of wrong cz a) teh kidz didn't want electroclash-gone-pop last year either -- cf holly valance -- and b) well yes they do like keane and usher but they ALSO seem to want natasha bedingfield and three of a kind. it's a crap-shoot and annie was unlucky.

― HKM, Friday, 17 September 2004 09:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps Radio 1 don't like it because it's crap

Since when has that stopped them in the past.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

What I meant was that Radio 1 might think it's crap. And as Radio 1 is currently trying to steer a perilous if pointless course between being Kiss FM and XFM it poses problems to them when one record doesn't quite fit neatly into either of those imaginary camps (i.e. neither Zane Lowe nor Westwood's gonna play it, ergo what's the point?).

Anyone who happens to be browsing in Oxford Circus HMV tomorrow lunchtime - might be worth keeping tabs on how many "kids" actually buy the Annie record or whether it's all people "our" age buying it.

― Donnye Smyth Ye Quyzze Kydde, Friday, 17 September 2004 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

a) teh kidz didn't want electroclash-gone-pop last year either -- cf holly valance .

I hate teh kidz. State Of Mind was fucking immense. And so is Anniemal.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps Annie should adopt that Natasha Bedingfield "Punch the camera" dance move?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

this is not about 'teh kiz' - they are not shaping the charts any more than 'teh adultz'

― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:38 (twenty-one years ago)

So has everyone here who loves the record and is bemoaning it's poor chart performance actually gone out and bought a copy?

― mms (mms), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

it's "teh biz," right?

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Friday, 17 September 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, steve, you are correct. For my part, that was just a flip comment. It's a lottery. You can point to dozens of singles that flopped or got put back endlessly and ended up being big second time around because the time was right, anyway.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I would suspect nearly everyone on this board has downloaded it rather than bought it as such.

No doubt when downloads are incorporated fully into the singles chart this will give records like "Chewing Gum" a better chance of being a bona fide "hit."

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Friday, 17 September 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, as with most things, flippancy here too (i don't think 'teh kidz' means anything more than 'non-obsessives' to me). time was right/appeared in advert.

i bought it cos i don't know how to download music -- like where *do* you find it?

― HKM, Friday, 17 September 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i bought it last night, along with 'Love Machine' and er 'Call On Me' DVD version - i like to collect the videos

― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, i bought it with 'love machine' and... an olden amon tobin record.

― HKM, Friday, 17 September 2004 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I'ma mail order the 12" and maybe CD2 soon.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

but will those sales be recognised by CIN or whoever it is now?

― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i forgot to buy the QPR record. i want to see Ian Holloway on TOTP dammit.

― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

you all made me feel guilty. i felt i had to like the record. i have none of this p2p munchkin s/w on my machine so bought the cd single today.
its bloody annoying record thats what it is. but somehow i feel compelled to play it again and again.
the remixes are kinda cool.and i may even get away with playing this @ home due to the Finnish connection .. though i doubt it ..

― mark e (mark e), Friday, 17 September 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw the video on channel 4's new morning video prog. She waves her arse into the camera a lot. It's that one, yeah?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

One thing which hasn't been touched on - Annie hasn't been marketed as a 'personality' in any way, I haven't seen any big interviews or even features, it's a kind of anonymous name to exist as a brand in any case...

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

You got us there. Not even a stop on Popworld yet.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

lots of bum wiggling in the video.

― mark e (mark e), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I totally bought both CDs of it and would do so again, dammit (b-side AND video, oh yes)

I think maybe the reason I mentioned the three records I did at the start of the thread (rather than Pop! or someone like that) was because they all seemed to have been posited as the kind of obvious GA successorz in terms of being totally gloriously brilliant records made with oodles of love rather than slightly-shambolic rattley stuff that is supposedly marketed at "the popkids" in the belief that they will buy any old shite. On reflection I'm not 100% sure exactly WHO I feel made this distinction; Mania were flagged up by Popjustice months and months ago, and prior to Bad Ass Strippa Jentina was written about in NME as some collision between Kelis/Neneh Cherry/early Sugababes which I fear was what got me unduly excited perhaps. Can't for the life of me work out where I first heard about Chewing Gum (and also Heartbeat), maybe here, maybe Popjustice or someone, maybe Richard X site. Anyway, X 'n' Xenomania have the stranglehold on This Kind Of Thing this year and their previous (commercial) successes might have led me to believe that this was why these records would be gigantic smashes, but I guess the majority of record buyers do not get overly excited by the identity of the composer/producer (was this the case with SAW back in tha day? Did they not have 40 top 40 entries in a row or something like this at one point? Or did I dream this statistic?)

So who HAS done CD:UK and everything and had video smeared all over digital and had Radio 1 support and local support and everything and still tanked? There was that "Do It With Madonna" single that 'only' got to number 15 or so, did people have expectations of that? Nothing else springs to mind right now at all really.

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Hopefully "Do It With Madonna" tanked because it is the most shit thing ever.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 18 September 2004 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Agreed, but I remember it getting staggering amounts of play on Hallam FM (which is local Sheffield station and which I was forced to listen to day in day out at work for six months last year) and it was quite unexpected that it didn't ker-splash into the top 10 or top 5 like Crazy Town or Heaven Is A Halfpipe or something of this "calibre". But I think I may be clutching at straws here a bit.

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Saturday, 18 September 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

im tempted to say annie is too clever to get natasha bedingfield success.

― splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah or maybe too 'knowing' - rather like Mania (who were originally part of the Xenomania writing team I believe) in fact. You can't project anything on to Annie or Mania because they're too 'real' (and thus too distant?), whereas Rachel Stevens is a blank slate. Natasha B gets around this by going for the Cosmo market, which Annie and Mania definitely don't do.

I think Jentina flopped because she was very very wrong. I loved her, but really... gypsy progeny rapping about Escalades was never going to be commercially viable. Her new single was written by Cathy Dennis btw.

― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 18 September 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

#25 in the end, climbed from the midweeks and beat Dido, Interpol, Thirteen Senses, the 22-20's and The Beastie Boys in the process.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Given who she beat, a fine result.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 September 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just realised that's a spoiler for Lex's rundown later... arrgh fuck can someone delete it or something plz?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 19 September 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not as inconsolable about this as I thought I would be. 25 is a nice number for Great Obvious Number Ones That Weren't, Emerge by Fischerspooner got to number 25.

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Sunday, 19 September 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I've become pretty much numbed to these events since 'Plug It In' and Schizophrenic anyway, but I'm happy she got this close. Besides, I do believe there'll be a next time.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Sunday, 19 September 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Scissor Sisters first release of Laura didn't do shit did it, that's not too bad.

― Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Sunday, 19 September 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

And they're "knowing".

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Sunday, 19 September 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i still think it might be different if Annie were British. didn't 'House Of Jealous Lovers' get to #25 as well? not that it's a 'great obvious number one that wasn't'

― teh pow! (blueski), Monday, 20 September 2004 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

#27. Anyway, it's not so much unBritishness as unavailability, I'm thinking. We also have to keep in mind that these avant-yet-very-pop singles are still the preserve of smaller labels, even the ones with big backers.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 20 September 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

There were plenty of copies going spare in both HMV and Virgin on Saturday. So it's only a question of unavailability in Woolworths, which as far as the singles chart is concerned is what counts.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Monday, 20 September 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

If Annie was British Radio 1 would be promoting her all over the place, nationalism is a significant aspect to their love of Franz Ferdinand, Joss Stone, Keane et al (and Dizzee Rascal and The Streets too).

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

If Aqua were starting out now, "Barbie Girl" would probably only have got to #25.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)

nah i think it would've done just as well (look at Fast Food Rockers, 3 Of A Kind, that 'Fly On The Wings Of Love' thing...)

― teh pow! (blueski), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)

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