TS: "wouldnt it be nice?" vs. "heroes and villains"

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im torn between these two. both sort of snap you into this alternate world of surreal pop, setting the scene for what would follow on the respective albums.

i can't decide at all.

― peter smith (plsmith), Sunday, 19 September 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess i'll go with wouldn't it be nice....they're both great but when michael moore used it in roger and me right after he was interviewing ben hamper on the basketball court that song really devastated me...so hopeful and sad.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 19 September 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

wouldn't it be nice? -- 60s pop perfectionism, every note accent sigh emotion in place. a finished, polished realized work,
heroes & villains -- an intriguing mess, seemingly unfinished/unstructured, shape-shifting sounds different every time. like a proto-remix, premonitions of pop futurism.

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

otm lovebug - have a preference?

― peter smith (plsmith), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

heroes and villains...I listen it to quite frequently, while wouldn't it be nice not in years. pet sounds is a masterpiece, worthy of all (most) praise heaped on it, but I prefer the inconsistent breakdown-period stuff aka "The Weird Years."

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Will say that "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is more awesome harmonically.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I prefer the whole Smile/Smiley Smile concept and while Heroes & Villains is very impressive and interesting, I don't really like the song. It has no real hook or chorus to it, at least not in respects to Wouldn't It Be Nice. That descending melody is endlessly meandering and it kind of annoys me. Plus the Smile version is better than the official one.

― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

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