CAT STEVENS = TERRORIST?

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WASHINGTON - A plane bound for Washington from London was diverted to Maine on Tuesday after passenger Yusuf Islam — formerly known as pop singer Cat Stevens — showed up on a U.S. watch list, federal officials said.

United Airlines Flight 919 had already taken off from London en route to Dulles International Airport when the match was made between the passenger and the watch list, said Nico Melendez, a spokesman for the Transportation Security Administration.

The plane was met by federal agents at Maine's Bangor International Airport around 3 p.m., Melendez said.

Federal officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, identified the individual as Islam.

One official said Islam, 56, was identified by the Advanced Passenger Information System, which requires airlines to send passenger information to U.S. Customs and Border Protection's National Targeting Center. TSA was then contacted and requested that the plane land at the nearest airport, the official said.

"He was interviewed and denied admission to the United States on national security grounds," said Homeland Security spokesman Dennis Murphy. He said the man would be put on the first available flight out of the country Wednesday.

Islam, who was born Stephen Georgiou, took Cat Stevens as a stage name and had a string of hits in the 1960s and '70s, including "Wild World" and "Morning Has Broken." Last year he released two songs, including a re-recording of his '70s hit "Peace Train," to express his opposition to the U.S.-led war in Iraq (news - web sites).

He abandoned his music career in the late 1970s and changed his name after being persuaded by orthodox Muslim teachers that his lifestyle was forbidden by Islamic law. He later became a teacher and an advocate for his religion, founding a Muslim school in London in 1983.

Islam recently condemned the school seizure by militants in Beslan, Russia, earlier this month that left more than 300 dead, nearly half of them children.

In a statement on his Web site, he wrote, "Crimes against innocent bystanders taken hostage in any circumstance have no foundation whatsoever in the life of Islam and the model example of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him."

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they screen for everyone whose name is "Islam" just to be safe.

chrisco (chrisco), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

baby it's a mad world

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

but he loves his dog more than he loves you!

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

get on the peace train!

(we have a lot to learn from Cat Stevens)

supercub, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank God we're dealing with the singer/songwriter menace . . . 34 years too late.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004T9VT.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

np: "I'm Gonna Get Me a Gun," Cat Stevens

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

how come they don't mention the Salman Rushdie thing in the article?

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

some sort of liberal-terrorist conspiracy, i reckon.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's another article which explains the apparent reason Islam was denied access (it's not his music); strangely enough, the article posted by Cutty doesn't mention this quite crucial bit of information...


Flight diverted after singer found on list
Cat Stevens, now known as Yusuf Islam, is denied admission into

United States
By LESLIE MILLER
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - A London-to-Washington flight was diverted to Maine on Tuesday when it was discovered passenger Yusuf Islam — formerly known as singer Cat Stevens — was on a government watch list and barred from entering the country, federal officials said.

United Airlines Flight 919 was en route to Dulles International Airport when the match was made between a passenger and a name on the watch list, said Nico Melendez, a spokesman for the Transportation Security Administration. The plane was met by federal agents at Maine's Bangor International Airport around 3 p.m., Melendez said.

Homeland Security Department spokesman Dennis Murphy identified the passenger as Islam. "He was interviewed and denied admission to the United States on national security grounds," Murphy said, and would be put on the first available flight out of the country today.

Officials, speaking on condition they remain anonymous, said Islam, 56, was a financial supporter of groups believed to be linked to terrorism.

One official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Islam, 56, was identified by the Advanced Passenger Information System, which requires airlines to send passenger information to Customs and Border Protection's National Targeting Center.

The Transportation Security Administration then was contacted and requested that the plane land at the nearest airport, that official said.

Flight 919 eventually continued on to Dulles after Islam was removed from the flight.

Islam, who was born Stephen Georgiou, took Cat Stevens as a stage name and had a string of hits in the 1960s and '70s, including Wild World and Morning Has Broken.

Last year he released two songs, including a re-recording of his '70s hit Peace Train, to express his opposition to the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

He abandoned his music career in the late 1970s and changed his name after being persuaded by orthodox Muslim teachers that his lifestyle was forbidden by Islamic law. He later became a teacher and an advocate for his religion, founding a Muslim school in London in 1983.

Islam drew some negative attention in the late 1980s when he supported the Ayatollah Khomeini's death sentence against Salman Rushdie, author of The Satanic Verses. Recently, though, Islam has criticized terrorist acts, including the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and the school seizure in Beslan, Russia, earlier this month that left more than 300 dead, nearly half of them children.


Does anyone have any idea what these "groups believed to be linked to terrorism" are, because it sounds extremely vague?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone know if he renounced his royalty account upon conversion (a la Peter Green)?

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 06:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Note also that 10,000 Maniacs included "Peace Train" on their Rhino anthology this year after making noise about removing it from 'In My Tribe.'

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 06:51 (twenty-one years ago)

this is amazing. they could have saved themselves the trouble, though, if they had locked him up for 'wild world'.

Jay Kid (Jay K), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 08:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"Does anyone have any idea what these "groups believed to be linked to terrorism" are?"

According to the Guardian, he was accused of donating tens of thousands of dollars to Hamas in 1988 (whose activities he has repeatedly expressed support for).

slb2, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that true about Hamas? Well fuck him, then. Give him the boot!

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, well in future the UK should prevent every Irish American whoever donated funds to Noraid from entering the UK

Didoismus (Dada), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Hamas is not entirely evil, they've done a lot of humanitarian work, the terrorism part is a more contemporary thing. Not that I support them in any way.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Tea for the Tillerman is a good album.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Hamas is not entirely evil, they've done a lot of humanitarian work, the terrorism part is a more contemporary thing. Not that I support them in any way.

Even the Hitler Jugend helped a lot or arian granmas to cross the street, this doesn't mean they were good. Like it or not, Hamas is a terrorist group.

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Terrorism isn't why Hamas was founded, nor, if I'm correct, is it Hamas' main function even today. As I said, I don't support them, I just wanted to point this out.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Why is it that the yanks think every terrorist wears a turban? Don't they GET that in the UK we had the IRA for ages and many of them supported and/ or turned a blind eye to it? This thing about Stevens is madness - but kudos to Didoismums for his comment. Yo! America - why not stop everyone from entering and just hole yourselves away from the outside world? Then when you have a Timothy McVeigh again who will you blame? You are a great country currently run by a moron. Thankyou.

Political Pete, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Terrorism isn't why Hamas was founded, nor, if I'm correct, is it Hamas' main function even today. As I said, I don't support them, I just wanted to point this out.

I understand maybe I've been a little rude. Anyway since its inception Hamas' main aim is the destruction of Israel - its even in the preamble of their manifesto of 1988.

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Wouldn't it be cool if Cat stevens played Israel as a show of peace and goodwill? Surely that would do more to bring peace than anything? Just a thought. Why don't these stars go out of their way and do something like that? Why didn't the Manics follow up Cuba with a "Free Palestine" concert in Sharon's backyard?

Political Pete, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Why is it that the yanks think every terrorist wears a turban?

We do? Hey, thanks for telling me what I think! When you're done reading my mind, I can think of lots of other things I'd like to know about myself, if you've got a minute.

Phil Dennison (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

No one harasses Richard Thompson, a Muslim who also once posed in a turban on an album cover, and who currently resides in the U.S.. That's because Richard Thompson >>>>>> Cat Stevens. Thanks the Patriot Act for making that distinction formal, in law.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Richard Thompson is about as authentically Muslim as George Harrison was authentically Hindu.

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

So glad somebody's around to judge the authenticity of religious conversions. I wouldn't want the job!

briania (briania), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Richard Thompson >>>>>> Cat Stevens

b-b-but cat stevens wrote "here comes my baby"! and "matthew and son"!

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Mixmaster Mike will probably be hassled when he tours with the Beastie Boys -- he's an admitted Terrorwrist.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i just grew a beard, and im flying tomorrow. i hope the combination of this and my islamic name dont get me diverted to maine.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, what's not Muslim about Richard Thompson? He's Sufi and has been for longer than Cat Stevens has been whatever sect he is. But to the best of my knowledge, RT has never called for the death of anyone. Except maybe Linda, but those were some dark days ...

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Richard Thompson is about as authentically Muslim as George Harrison was authentically Hindu.

Richard Thompson is an authentic Muslim alright - next time you meet him ask him what he thinks of Shariah Law, because I certainly remember reading him defending the cutting of thieves' hands etc.

Didoismus (Dada), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

the central problem w/Hamas and the Palestinians is that on the one hand they are the only group providing desperately needed social programs to a completely economically disenfranchised group of people, and on the other they support completely insane and pointless acts of terrorism. Obviously this puts the average Palestinian in a bit of a moral bind, loyalty wise.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Sure you can convert, but are you really a Hindu if you're a white Englishman? No. Are you really Jewish if you convert? No, your mother has to be Jewish. Ask most Hundus, Jewis, or Muslims, they'll tell you that unless you are born in the tribe, you're never getting in. Rabbis will very much discourage a goy from converting, as will a Cleric. Just a fact.

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

uh, what? that's total bullshit. My dad married into a Jewish family, converted to Judaism in his 30s, and went on to become president of the local Temple.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Behind his back they say "he's not really Jewish."

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

whatever. EVERY religion has internal divisions centering around who and who isn't a "true believer", recognizing converts is just a subset of those conflicts, and there's no hard and fast rule as you suggest. For example, I'm sure hardcore Catholics deride those who have lapsed as not being "true" Catholics (or look at Mel Gibson and his splinter faction - or ANY splinter faction of any major religion. People are always drawing these lines, they're arbitrary and vary according to tradition).

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Hinduism, Judaism and Islam are religions, not tribes. To greater or lesser degrees, all are evangelical. There are many examples of sincere conversion, even among Englishmen, musicians and white people.

briania (briania), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

You are correct.

Mostly this was spurred by a memory of when Harrison died, I was out with a group of friends who are Hindu (from Bombay), who were laughing at the obit describing Harrison as a Hindu. When I asked what was so funny about that, my friend said, "He will never really be a Hindu unless he looks like me." And they agreed with this...they thought if was funny, that this white man could call himself a Hindu...it got me thinking.

I suspect the congregation your Dad is president of is more or less 'liberal,' or non-traditional? My Jewish friends have told me many times (especially when I was about to marry a Jewish woman and considering converting) that conversion is discouraged.

Briania, Judaism is NOT evangelical. (Unless you count Jews for Jesus.)

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Richard Thompson is a muslim????? The English folk singer???

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah, my dad's congregation is Reform, and I have no doubt more conservative elements of Judaism (say, the Hasidim) would say he's not a real Jew. And yes, of all the religions discussed here, Judaism is the one that is by far the *least* evangelical, in that gaining converts is not really part of the standard religious doctrine. But my point is that in ANY religion you have subsets of people claiming to be the ONE TRUE WAY, and that these people are always casting aspersions on the beliefs of others. These people are also essentially always full of shit and incapable of recognizing the vast spectrum of any given belief system. I mean, yr Hindu friends were just being patronizing and egotistical - would they say that Alan Ginsberg wasn't really a Buddhist? Or that Ruth (the original Jewish convert - look it up in the Old Testament) was not really a Jew? It's just stupid scenester-ism ("I heard this band first! You aren't a REAL fan!"), and I don't think it has any real basis in actual theology.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, the fact that there even IS a story in the Old Testament about a God-ordained Jewish convert should tell you that your friends are full of shit, and that you can make a completely coherent theological argument for the validity of conversion.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

This is so completely crazy.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

In one way is heartening though -- whatever messed up computer program they're using, at least they're applying it uniformly. I'm sure they would have caught flack if he came up on the no-fly list and someone had said, "Let's just let it slide -- he's Cat Stevens."

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 23 September 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

CAT STEVENS = UK XMAS NUMBER ONE?

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 24 September 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

publicity machine > no-fly list program

teh pow! (blueski), Friday, 24 September 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)


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