I'm not going to limit it to "illegal" drugs as otherwise we'd miss out on great Brian-Eno-discovery-of-ambient stories.
― Tom, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Omar, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I've felt very strongly that the first times I tried ecstacy changed the way I listened to music. Not just dance music, but all music which takes advantage of texture. But I've recently had doubts, because my growth in appreciation has increased without taking the drug as well, so maybe my initial jump in appreciation was the result of an increased exposure to texture-based music that just happened to co-incide with my exposure to ecstacy.
― Tim, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mark Richardson, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― jel, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Michael Bourke, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Omar, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
guess she thinks only hippies do acid. The similarities between Sonic Youth, Flaming Lips, Voivod, Mercury Rev and Butthole Surfers are obvious and at least 4 out of the 5 bands (if you WANT to discount Sonic Youth) were notorious LSD users, so why is it so ridiculous to conceive of Thurston Moore dropping acid? Seems more than likely he did. Compare Sonic Youth's noise to Hendrix. It's similar, but different (though not terribly so when you get right down to the squealing guitar dissonance).
I could go on and on forever on just Sonic Youth. There is so much evidence. However, it would kind of ruin their "art rock" vibe if they chalked up their greatest accomplishments to drug experimentation... they're not hippies, after all.
But, just this one example alone serves to show the power of drugs on a musician, pushing him to try new things. I take it for granted that most anything that sounds like contained, sculpted wild abandon and reaches new territory was influenced by drugs. Most people try drugs. Most musicians abuse drugs. See how the Beatles changed, Hendrix, and all that "first stage of rock n' roll" stuff was inevitably shot in new and exciting directions once the musicians smoked their first bowl or whatever.
That being said, I'm so bored with drugs it's ludicrous.
― , Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Omar, Wednesday, 28 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
are we to presume that legions of avant-garde composers and free jazz artists (whose appreciation of sound beyond melody frequently exceeds thurston's) are all big acidheads as well?
― sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 28 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 28 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
well in my mind they are. Anywayz, Michael Gira was a big acidhead so it still makes sense with that lyric. And whatever the literal source of the lyrics of 'Eric's Trip', "Daydream Nation" still sounds very psychedelic (in the end it's beside the point if "they were on acid"). What next? Butthole Surfers recorded "Locust Abortion Technician" while drinking herbal tea?
― Omar, Thursday, 1 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mark Richardson, Thursday, 1 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― , Thursday, 1 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Jake Becker, Thursday, 1 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Omar, Friday, 2 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
i don't really care one way or the other whether sy use acid (well, maybe i do a bit for coco's sake). it's more this comment that i had issues with:
>I once had to explain to a non-drug-taking entity how obvious it is >when musicians use LSD. They're appreciation of "sound" exceeds >melody to the point where "normal" people view it as crazy or chaotic
the idea that appreciating sound beyond melody requires some sort of chemical alteration is what i disagreed with. all it requires is a willingness to question received musical responses. drugs may make this easier for someone not used to unconventional music but are certainly not essential to it.
i just mentioned the sources of the lyrics you cited because you seemed a little too ready to assume they were proof of drug use (yes i know they hung out with michael gira).
― sundar subramanian, Saturday, 3 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
"You can hear MORE when you're stoned"
was just a cliche, but it turned out to be true. I've noticed things when stoned that had eluded he dozens of times before.Example, the minor-second keyboard parts in "Misty Mountain Hop,"I knew there was something disturbing about the song, but I nevernoticed those keyboard diads until I listened to it high.
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)
acid and weed definitely augment, or can alter effectively, the music experience.coke alters how long and expansive an innocuous topic can become, like ILM/E times ten.can't speak for heroin, but it's safe to say anything you feel on ecstacy at least is bullshit anyway (but enjoyment i'm sure is possible). with first two i feel like your true sensibility is still being factored into even this 'altering' you know
― duke rosario, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― don, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)
Found by googling Sonic Youth Voivod and clicking the first link:http://www.google.com/search?q=sonic+youth+voivod&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Personally, I've always thought they sounded the same. Funny that all these years later it is confirmed that Voivod influenced Sonic Youth and not the other way around, which for some reason I'd always expected. I guess Voivod kicks ass.
― Triple Ho, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 06:31 (twenty years ago)
VOIVOD: "Cited as the influence by bands as polarly opposed as Pantera andSonic Youth"
― Triple Ho, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago)
What's a minor second?
― 57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago)
― W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 15:49 (twenty years ago)
― mentalist (mentalist), Thursday, 30 December 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 30 December 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago)
Music: the drug
http://www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-music-dopamine-20110109,0,5591381.story
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 January 2011 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
I have to leave a comment in this thread.
― the Sonic Youths of suck (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 9 January 2011 21:02 (fourteen years ago)