Taking sides: Brian Eno by himself v. Brian Eno producing/collaborating with other artists

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CHOOOOOOSSSSSEEEEE

― David Allen (David Allen), Monday, 27 September 2004 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Eno brings out the best in collaboration ( cale / talking heads / fripp )

is this where we talk about the new order album?

― nick.K (nick.K), Monday, 27 September 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Collabs (assuming that includes Roxy) squeeze by solo ever so slightly for me, mostly fir For Your Pleasure and "Heroes.

― anode (anode), Monday, 27 September 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

is this where we talk about the new order album?

{Nearly hyperventilating} They say the new album is due in January or whatever it is. Sooner than I can even believe! Actually it occurs to me there's a New Order song called Sooner Than You Think! Okay...okay...calm down. Deeeeeeeeep breath.

I tried to read Brian Eno's book and I didn't like it much. I prefer to remember him placing the adhesive tape on the reel-to-reel tape in the U2 video from Unforgettable Fire. Which I guess technically was for Pride in The Name of Love, but the clip could have been used for anything.

― Bimble (bimble), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:48 (twenty-one years ago)

ah, U2, he couldn't help the, eh?

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, being that he produced one of my favorite albums of all damn time (Q: Are We Not Men?... by Devo), I suppose I should cite the latter, but the Spud boys have been on record saying he was a pain in the ass to work with (and I'm sure it's mutual), so that album probably isn't the best yardstick with which to measure him. I like bits and pieces of his own solo work (notably "Backwater" and the inevitable "Needle in the Camel's Eye"). I just don't know.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 27 September 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i go back to "green world" and "before and after science" a good bit these days and occasionally put on "warm jets" and "tiger mountain." i listen to jon hassell/eno "fourth world" a lot, one of my favorite albums. collabs, i still like "remain in light," never was a U2 fan. or devo, really, except in scorsese's "casino." so i say eno solo.

― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 27 September 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

solo, although low and roxy stuff are great.

― peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 27 September 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Mmm, yeah, Eno solo I think.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

It's all good, but in different ways.

However, if I could only have one or the other, never to listen to what I didn't choose again, I'd have to pick producing/collaboration.

― Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

eno solo ... b/c taking tiger mountain (by strategy) and "baby's on fire" were 2 of the most wonderfully fucked-up things that a 15-year-old me got to listen to (and have his musical tastes forever perverted by).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

He produced my favorite stuff by David Bowie, Talking Heads and U2, so ...that.

― Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

In which category does stuff like Airports and No Pussyfooting fall?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

there is no such thing as a solo eno rock album. The whole point of eno as a writer/producer is that he sets up simple, harmonically wide open structures and then he gets the best players and then encourages them to go absolutely nuts. He gets the writing credits, but alot of the actual magic comes from the musicians; he just kind of guides the proceedings. Not to dog him out, he is probably my favorite producer period, but he is limited when he is completely on his own. The closest you get to eno solo material would be records like Discreet Music, Shutov Assembly, and some of the Ambient records.

The divide between his solo work and his production is basically whether or not he can pick the musicians and how much influence he chooses to exercise in the proceedings.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Eno + U2 is best Eno

― the enofox, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

In which category does stuff like Airports and No Pussyfooting fall?

Shameless Plug Alert

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

(sorry, couldn't resist, given the topicality)

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry Pinefox but I think you got your equation quite wrong there.

Eno + U2 >> U2

but

Eno + U2

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

The second equation was

Eno >> Eno + U2

I guess the WWW does not like two smaller signs next to each other, right?

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Cripes, the sentence was lost as well. Warm Jets, Tiger Mountain, Green World and Science are so much superior to anything U2 have ever released that it hurts.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Word.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

To one's mother

― briania (briania), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Whose whale is eyeless...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Warm Jets, Tiger Mountain, Green World and Science are so much superior to anything U2 have ever released that it hurts.

apples, oranges, sophistry

― Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Eno with Harold Budd is my favorite of his ambient records.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

But which? Plateaux of Mirror or The Pearl?

(in either case, though, stay tuned tomorrow!)

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

what is tomorrow?

the pearl is a beautiful, beautiful album

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I refer you to my shameless plug alert above...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

budd & eno = dream team

i don't understand. why should you choose between plateaux and the pearl when you can have them both?

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

nice article

also, that article on eno/cale has just rescued wrong way up from my sell back stack (I have most of the songs on the box set, but, maybe I should hold on to it....)

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

thirteen years pass...

Lots of Eno threads, thought it best to post the news on a new collaborative album here: http://deadoceans.com/blog/2017/09/dead-oceans-welcomes-tom-rogerson-tom-rogerson-with-brian-eno-finding-shore-out-december-8th/

https://youtu.be/SroYdHuv9z8
Sounds delightful.

― willem, Thursday, 28 September 2017 09:21 (eight years ago)

It does! Thanks for that.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 28 September 2017 12:41 (eight years ago)

Wow. Excited. That track is like a generative Harold Budd or something. Wonder what the rest is like.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 September 2017 14:48 (eight years ago)

Played Plateau of Mirrors for my daughters bedtime last night and after a few minutes she shouted "i really like this music daddy".

― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 28 September 2017 18:42 (eight years ago)

Aww <3

― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 28 September 2017 20:10 (eight years ago)

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