artrocker goes into the world of Weekly Printed Press ..

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any of you folks involved ? you seen it yet ? is it London only ?
a weekly alternative your NME fix .. surely tis a Good Thing.
though i doubt i will have heard of any of the bands ..

mark e (mark e), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh god, after being unintentionally dragged into an Artrocker bar at the weekend, I have The Fear. I used to get their mailouts for a while, but they just made me cross due to the reactionary political content as much as the reactionary musical content. But what do you expect from retrofetishists, really?

Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah... Searh their attitude re: rock'n'roll as an active vs passive past-time, and many of the bands on their excellent label (licensing Ex Models, signing Gin Palace) but Destroy the sub-Daily Mail dispatches from the Front Line.

stevie (stevie), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:00 (twenty-one years ago)

OTM. I want to like them so much, but they're their own worst enemies in a lot of ways.

Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:07 (twenty-one years ago)

are they still banging that reactionary drum? i asked to be taken off the mailshoot after a particularly pathetic rant about iraq.

Pete W (peterw), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)


tis all london transport these days. no longer war stuff. though i have glossed over the mailout recently due to lack of the hiphop column.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Also I'm sure some of the Artrocker guys are involved in Ten Benson, so that's surely a point in their favour. Not read the zine yet though.

Jason J, Monday, 4 October 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone would think i bloody work for artrocker .. new website launched today - bit more meaty than the earlier version. still - no sign of the paper on the streets of bristol.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 4 October 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

from my blog:

Artrocker launches weekly rock mag

Playlouder have news of a new weekly music magazine from Artrocker

The magazine, to be called 'Artrocker', funnily enough, will have an initial launch next Monday, October 4th. It will be available through Vital in independent record shops, some fashion emporia, and additionally will be sold on the streets - with sellers getting to keep all proceeds. Make dollar and learn! After an initial four-week period, Artrocker will go weekly from November 1st.

Artrocker website.

Well virtually anything will be better than the clueless and useless NME, however Artrocker is very much of the old skool local fanzine approach. This means their music coverage concentrates on rock bands on independent labels/ or upcoming unsigned bands. The Artrocker approach is high on local enthusiasm but lacks quality control and music diversity is an alien concept to these indie rock rodents. Artrocker is most likely appeal to scruffy gig going 17 - 25 year old types in large cities in the UK.

If Careless Talk Costs Lives/ Plan B are accused of being too rockist, the artrocker types wear it as a badge of pride.

......

It amazes me that a mag can be launched with such a narrow agenda.

Have these people heard of: ambient, experimental electronic music, folktronica, drum n bass/ techstep jungle, avant prog, goth/ darkwave, electro, tech-house/ techno/ microhouse, dark/ black metal, industrial, synth pop, leftfield hip hop, avant jazz, breaks, improv, dub.

NME = useless rubbish aimed at teenagers
Artrocker = too narrow an agenda

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

their aesthetic is reactionary, their politics are racist, ergo i will not be buying this.

stelfox, Monday, 4 October 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Have these people heard of: ambient, experimental electronic music, folktronica, drum n bass/ techstep jungle, avant prog, goth/ darkwave, electro, tech-house/ techno/ microhouse, dark/ black metal, industrial, synth pop, leftfield hip hop, avant jazz, breaks, improv, dub.

You actually do have this as a sticky on your desktop don't you?

DJ Mencap0))), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

if Martain doesn't i sure do - now.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah but he just says the exact same thing every time the topic of a new music publication is broached. The answer to his question is, at a guess - yes, they just don't want to write about it. It's their magazine

DJ Mencap0))), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Facts:

1.The artrocker agenda is narrow and inadequate in reflecting the diversity of contemporary music from my perspective.

2.Do see a rush of praise for this new artrocker mag on ILM? No

3.There is strong growing evidence from people in their 20s/ 30s on various music forums/ message boards that they would welcome a new weekly music mag - and NOT a monthly. The NME has become an embarrassing teenager rock Smash Hits.

Also check this new website, Boycott the NME: http://www.boycottthenme.com/

DJ Mencap are you aware of a new extreme music mag, Zero Tolerance that has recently launched: [similar to Terrorizer]

Zero Tolerance
http://www.zero-tolerance.co.uk/frame.htm

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Of course it's narrow, that's their taste. They like indie and garage rock, and if they want to punt a load of money into a magazine that celebrates this then godspeed them in their probably bankruptcy-bound quest.

Boycott The NME - breaking new boundaries in lame.

Zero Tolerance - that the one that had the Peaceville CD on the cover? Looked OK for a first effort, in terms of writing it's no Terrorizer but might be worth giving it time.

I just don't understand where you get your idea that there's this glaring gap in the market for a mag - weekly or millennial, whatever - that reflects tastes as diverse as yours. Speaking as someone coming from much the same perspective, I really wish there was this gap, but saying it over and over ain't gonna make it so

DJ Mencap0))), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

There was a hip-hop column in the mailout, although i haven't noticed it recently hmm...Yeah, the sub-Daily Mail/UKIP bullshit has really been getting on my goat. As a non-Londoner I have little interest in the rants about Routemaster buses. Regarding wheelchair access, they actually said, "well, how many wheelchair users do you see on the buses?" Well, you'd see a hell of a lot more if they were able to get on the bloody things. No reason you can't keep the old buses for tourism, transport museums etc (that's what they do in Glasgow), but you need modern buses that everyone can access.

I don't hate the mag as a whole, cos I know many of the writers are uncomfortable with that shit too. It is a bit limited, but it may well expand its coverage. And the retro fonts on the cover are way cool.

stew s, Monday, 4 October 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

In the mid 90s when I bought NME every week you could read about almost every kind of music under the sun, or so it seemed to me, and it helped turn me onto stuff I had never come across before, stuff my friends would shun without listening, opened my eyes to dance music, hip hop and a whole host of other things that otherwise I would never have fallen in love with. You could read about Leftfield, A Tribe Called Quest, Pulp, Beck, Orbital, Screaming Trees, DJ Shadow, Pavement and Mogwai all in the same...

You remember that Onion opinion piece: "I AM NOT AFRAID TO TRY POPULAR NEW THINGS"?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 4 October 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

ok.

found the Real World article.

lots of stuff to take in, not read much.

i thoroughly approve of the motivation, passion etc.
but i have one big problem. it looks like a nasty badly designed fanzine. choice of certain fonts is dreadful, laytout is messy, but i guess this could be the desired effect.

but by far and away the most striking factor ..

man that Tom has Hair from Hell. whoa.

and yes the Hip Hop column is in printed form. which is good .. so its not 100% indie garage rock ..

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

eight years pass...

..........and out again

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:16 (twelve years ago)

lol at me eight years ago getting annoyed at djmartian for hammering the same points over and over

why they let the bodies hit the floor? (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 31 January 2013 14:35 (twelve years ago)

not like you

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 31 January 2013 15:21 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E-s6SYoi4A

r|t|c, Thursday, 31 January 2013 15:53 (twelve years ago)

Can someone explain the magazine's politics to me? I only know of Artrocker because one of the writers/editors(?) posts on a band-centric forum that I frequent. I never found his interviews/features/reviews interesting, so I never bothered looking at the rest of the magazine.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 31 January 2013 15:57 (twelve years ago)

not sure if this is what you meant but there's an old ILM thread about one of the mag's founders complaining about immigrants in his mailouts. it's kinda lol mostly sad as I recall

if you meant 'what do they cover', someone said earlier that the latest/last issue has Dave Grohl on the cover so... I have no idea really?

why they let the bodies hit the floor? (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 31 January 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)

Artrocker made some quip about The Quietus being pretentious a couple of years ago. I asked them if they didn't see the irony of what they were saying given their name but they don't really have the same understanding of the word art that I do.

It was always my ambition to break into Smiths one night and put quotes round "art" on the front covers but I guess that's another dream unrealised.

Anyway check this out. I was suicidally depressed before I read this and now I keep on having to stop what I'm doing because I'm laughing so hard.

How ArtRocker Brought Peace To The Middle East

Artrocker’s Editor-In-Chief Tom Fawcett told CMU: “Artrocker has always been an innovator. When people were still ‘clubbing’ in the noughties we started a rock n roll night and put on the first London shows by the Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs, The Black Keys, Interpol, Maximo Park and so many more great bands that went on to reshape music and culture on a global level. When people were saying the music industry was dead we launched a record label and suddenly the tide turned and vinyl sales rose for the first time in over a decade. People were saying ‘Magazines are over’ so we started a magazine, and here we are, almost ten years later, still going strong and again utilising the technology and tools available to us”.

Doran, Thursday, 31 January 2013 17:01 (twelve years ago)


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