DEFINE+EXAMPLES: ELECTRONICA, HOUSE, TECHNO, TRANCE, ETC

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please and thank you

I can't tell the difference.

- Rock Kid

― Rock Kid (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

electronica - can't dance to it
house - sounds a bit disco-ish
techno - doesn't sound disco-ish so much
trance - cheesy white chicks dig it

― Club Dude, Tuesday, 5 October 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

examples?

subgenres?

is trance the stuff with the really cliched builds and wooshing noises?

― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

― JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

eletronica is the dumbest name ever. I actually get embarrassed when anyone says it. I've never met anyone into electronic (wow look at that one less letter and not cringe-inducing, just use that people) music who says electroinca. It rivals techno for the word used to describe any electronic music by people who don't know about electronic music. God now I hate saying electronic music, too.

― Magic City (ano ano), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I can never tell the difference between punk, power pop, new wave, NWONW, and alternative. Which category do Blink 182 fall under? And Blondie? And Maroon 5? Are the Libertines punk, power pop, or are they just crap?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

house swings, techno doesn't (generally speaking)

― Elliot (Elliot), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

swing dancing?

― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

no, swing time

― Elliot (Elliot), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

schaffelhaus

― harshaw (jube), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

y'know techouse is what girls call techno, and what boys call house

― Nik (Nik), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

ELECTRONICA
any music dominated in production terms by use of electronic instruments other than guitars (synths, samplers etc.) and not really adhering to 'rock n' roll laws' wrt to band dynamic in studio/on stage/in videos/lifestyle etc. tho there's obv. overlap and exceptions. useful in describing artists who work in more than one genre and maintain a generally populist/mainstream approach (Goldfrapp? Fluke? Moby? Moloko? Gus Gus? Fatboy Slim?) tho also serves as a label for abstract stuff ala 'IDM' ('intelligent dance music') e.g. much of Warp Records output.

HOUSE
Multiple mutations and subsidiaries now but originally repetetive beat-driven (almost always 4/4 based and from 115-130bpm) but with general uplifting vibe revolving around distinct hooks either sampled (initially vocals and sounds from older disco, funk and soul records) or synth-based (esp. synth piano). like hip-hop cheap to produce so flourished in black and latin communities (most prominently among gay communities therein) in Chicago and New York in the early 80s before it's popularity spread to Europe where it mutated further. examples range from Marshall Jefferson's 'Move Your Body' to Black Box 'Ride On Time' to quite different 'acid house' tracks such as Phuture's 'Acid Trax' and A Guy Called Gerald's 'Voodoo Ray' to Garage variety (bigger on vocals and vocalplay, initially more soul/gospel/rnb/jazz influences - Tony Humphries, Todd Edwards, MK, MJ Cole) to more experimental European takes such as Daft Punk's 'Homework' album and more recent 'microhouse' work from Luomo and Michael Mayer.

TECHNO
Harder than house, still uplifiting at times but generally referring to more menacing or scientific themes in context. Often considered cold and hostile tho some would argue it should involve elements of funk and disco as much as house. often brooding and contemplative, often hyperactive and even psychedelic. Born in Detroit tho heavily influenced by European electronic musicians. BPM range typically 120-140bpm tho offshoot subgenres e.g. gabba are closer to 200bpm. Derrick May, Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson, Carl Craig, Joey Beltram, CJ Bolland, L.F.O., Dave Angel, Laurent Garnier, Dave Clarke, Richie Hawtin, Ken Ishii all key artists and often quite different from each other.

TRANCE
Essentially an offshoot of techno, emerging in Europe in the early 90s, 140-160bpm mostly 4/4, aiming for the same euphoric vibe as house with use of vocal hooks, arpeggiated synths and crescendos. hallucinogenic strain acquired a big following around the world notably in the resort of Goa. Key artists range from Ferry Corsten to Speedy J to late 90s Paul Oakenfold to Juno Reactor.

― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

did chuck eddy start this thread

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

aiming for the same euphoric vibe as house with use of vocal hooks

Funny, I'd say the one of the differences between house and trance is that the latter relies much less on vocal hooks and more on synth melodies.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

But admittedly I'm an old school trance-head, I don't know much about the pop trance of today.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

if you can't all agree on an exact definition, Europeans, then dance music is for gays.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh i guess there's not so much use of vocal hooks in earlier trance but you can include in that choiral voices as in 'Age Of Love', 'Odyssey To Anyoona' or 'Orange Theme' and the mantra-esque things like 'Stella' at least.

― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html

this should also help you out.

― jesus nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, the discohouse text is the best thign ever.

― :|, Tuesday, 5 October 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, in the US there are these compilations with names like SUPER DANCE 2004 that have a bunch of random "trance hits!" or whatever that frat boys buy. I never believed it until I saw it, and now I have nightmares.

― mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

'Epic Trance is the gateway into the world of rave for most people, so if you have any form of music to blame for raves hitting the mainstream, this is it. Right here. And that, my friends, really, truly, terribly sucks. There must be a word to describe the pain one feels when witnessing (or hearing, rather) something once pure and brilliant completely sold down the river.
Sometime in the mid-90's trance decided to drop the technique of slowly introducing complicated layers and building adequate tension over long stretches, replacing them with cutesy little insta-melodies (Robert Miles may actually be to blame for this). That made it more pop culture accessible. The average attention span, way too ritalin-freaked to pay attention to the slow, brooding trance in its original form, liked the anthemic singalong tone of the NEW McTrance, and that's why all you trance crackers are reading this right now. Not because you grew a taste for this super awesome underground music or you discovered it all by yourself once upon a time. But because trance reformed its sound and delivery to suit YOUR sweet-toothed, top40 pop music consuming tastes. Because the truth is Epic trance is not actually trance, per se. It is powdered, sugar-coated pop schmaltz draped over trance for easy digestion by giggling highschool girls and poser trendy types who would never think to even blink at trance in its raw incarnate. This is the musical equivalent of drowning a meal in ketchup so you can't taste the original flavour anymore.'

ah - so disgruntled dance fans can sound like pensioners too

― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

That paragraph is RAVEIST

― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

ha, surely it was me who wrote that about epic trance, and not whoever actually did write it...

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)

that paragraph is rockist and indie. the person probably likes Franz Ferdinand and Hardfloor.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone who ever moans about the top 40 and uses any variant of "giggling girls" etc deserves to be skinned and rolled in salt.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

thank you

Hardfloor remix of Franz = YES PLEASE

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

it is totally rockist but ATB, DJ Quiksilver, Alice Deejay, Ian Van Dahl etc. DID all make really shit annoying poptrance

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

actually it's funny though, wasn't the dude from Hardfloor in Fragma? Toca's Miracle?

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh Ramon Zenker, i was amazed by that - 'Toca Me' was more 'credible' trance-lite tho - i don't know who actually put the bootleg with Coco together

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

how do the wire use the word electronica? i always think of it as stuff like autechre and their ilk.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i always manage to forget Jeff Mills when mentioning key techno figures :(

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

That must be because he's black.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

odd remark

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

JUNGLE?

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

yes. definitely.

― :|, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

JUNGLE: 160bpm on average, originally built around sped up breakbeats sampled from old funk tracks (Incredible Bongo Band's 'Apache', Winstons 'Amen Brother', numerous James Brown), digtal synth sounds inc. rave favourite known as 'Mentasm', sounds previously associated with dub, ragga and dancehall, sampled dialogue from films ala hip hop, hooks and vocals from older soul, funk, disco or house music - often all of these things in the same records, plus that all important bassline, usually generated from synths such as the Roland SH-101 and designed to test sound systems to the limit as with dub. this empthasis on bass and rhythmic intensity (tempo and soon complex nature of the programmed beats) brought about the popular term 'drum n' bass' tho it wasn't really used until 1995 iirc. Different views on how the term Jungle came about (Trenchtown patois/racist overtone re-appropriated ala 'nigga' in hip-hop/intensity of beats ala 'tribal'/music of the 'urban jungle' - curiously associated with techno early on (as in 'jungle techno' due to the similarity in coverage at raves and perhaps sense of menace instilled in the music much of the time) but not all that important really. As you would expect, multiple mutations ensued ('darkwave', 'intelligent', 'artcore', 'hardstep', 'techstep', 'jazzstep' etc.). Key artists range from early pioneers 4-Hero, Shut Up & Dance, A Guy Called Gerald, Fabio & Grooverider, Mickey Finn & Aphrodite to DJ Hype/Ganja Kru, Goldie, Photek, Peshay, LTJ Bukem, Rob Haigh (Omni Trio), Roni Size, DJ Krust, Ray Keith, Doc Scott, Dillinja, Adam F, DJ SS, Shy FX, M-Beat, DJ Zinc and DJs such as Bryan Gee (V Records), Kenny Ken, Randall, Brockie (endless list)

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

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