― guy lusac, Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― REFICUL!, Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)
in answer to your question, it might be even worse than simple greed. might not.
― m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― REFICUL!, Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― REFICUL!, Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― lukey (Lukey G), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)
PRECISELY.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)
I don't think anyone anywhere gives a SHIT about what anyone else likes, except to the extent that it overlaps with their own taste. "Oh, you like 311? Me too! And here's what else I like ... "
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)
people think you are weird if you have like 600 cds (thats not that many!) and a burgeoning record collection and would willfully spend hours looking through the used stacks.
― artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Not if your a DJ, or your records are cool.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)
Seriously though, it does depend on the music. Despite what I said above, my last gf was very into soul and funk and dance some folk and what have you and loved hearing the records I had that fitted into that. And I loved hearing hers. I suppose it wouldn't be going too far to say we were impressed with each other's music collections.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)
Well, I wouldn't call it greed. You may be resentful as you put in the hours and your friend is reaping the rewards in comparatively very short order, but if he was suitably grateful for it, I'd let it go. I mean...perhaps you're putting too much stock into the methods of your music acquisition. Perhaps instead of feelilng sick to your stomach, you should feel good about yourself for sharing. Now, if this guy goes around appropriating your inherent coolness for seeking this stuff out in the first place by saying he's "been into Amon Dull (or whomever) for years, man", that ultimately makes him a dick and a poser, but otherwise, just feel good about spreading the gospel of good, different, challenging, interesting music. There's one less goon in the world who will listen to Nickelback. Pat yourself on the back for that, pilgrim.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)
More Socialism! Hooray!
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)
100GB of music isn't really that much. it's around 1000 albums i think.
many xposts
― tricky disco (disco stu), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)
IF YOU COULD GET 100 GIGS OF MUSIC ON YOUR OWN...HE/SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME THING.
LAZY FUCKS.
― DEEBZ (ddb), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)
i should've said OMG IF THIIS IS YOUR ONLY PROBLEM THEN WAIT TIL YOU GRADATE COLLAGE
― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)
File sharing, especially en masse, is not really socialism at all, it's just "I deserve free stuff for no good reason."
If you feel you need mass-produced music, you are implicitly affirming support of a capitalist product. It's not just that the artists need money to live, it also took money to record, produce, package, distribute, and even market that music (so that you got a chance to hear it). If you have such a problem with this, don't listen to the music. You can live without it.
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)
>YOU didn't make the music. They aren't stealing it from you.
they aren't stealing it from us. but they are kind of stealing it, you know.
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)
This has probably been done to death but I'm too lazy to read the thread.
I had a friend from high school who spent all of his extra money on CDs. At one point in college, he got a part-time job in a record store so that he could buy more CDs AND get a discount. He had something on the order of 1750 CDs by the time we were 21 and has continued buying at the same rate in the ensuing 10 years; I think he's got something like 8000 now.
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)
And keep in mind that your 'generosity' is entirely at someone else's expense if not yours. I have CDs of my own on the market, and although I'm certainly happy when I see my stuff is on soulseek, I am not _entirely_ happy, you know.
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)
la monte young
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)
This has nothing to do with the thread at hand. I'm not getting into the morality of filesharing and the like. I don't think the negative feelings articulated in the opening post and other subsequent ones result from them feeling guilty that the artists/bands are not being properly compensated.
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Similarly, if you don't want to lend somebody your car, it may have little to do with whether or not you were planning on using it yourself that day and everything to do with the effort you spent on finding it, buying it, and fixing it up just the way you like it.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)
Indeed. Where's the thrill of opening each cd and popping in the cd player? Where's the sport? Where's my rocking chair?
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― David Allen (David Allen), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)
i didn't listen to all of it very thoroughly at the time i bought it.
if there's a race to hear music, i've certainly given up after the first lap.
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)
This is why socialism will never work. -- Marcello Carlin
It will if we shoot these fuckers.
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)
a few months ago a friend, now living in indonesia, was visiting. Right before she went there she bought an Ipod and grabbed lots of music from her San Francisco friends and when she was here we went somewhere for lunch, stayed there thru evening just dumping music of mine onto her system. I get regular mesages from her about how much she loves having stuff she knows and does not know from all of us pop up randomly and what a thrill it is. That makes me happy, and as pointed out above - you get to have backups with people.
― H (Heruy), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)
-- noodle vague (noodle_vagu...), October 6th, 2004.
Hahaha, yes! Communism will work if we just kill everyone! Fuck human nature! Pol Pot, Mao, and Fidel all had/have the right idea! You disagree with the politburo, well you're going to Siberia BITCH! LOL!!!
― Red4Life, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 09:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 09:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)