― Michael Bourke, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Patrick, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)
I can sum up Pavement with a few words: run-on sentences, inside-jokes (which, unfortunately are never explained), sloppy jams hovering somewhere between self-mocking angst and slacker apathy culminating in complacency.
Something about them was unique at one time, but not terribly more unique than several other bands of the same era. And, is it just me, or does Steve have NO RANGE?!
That being said, I think Pavement are okay for summer music ("Summer babe"...) but Steve's starting to wear out his welcome in my eardrums.
― john yonderboy, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)
I like the ballads, I think - "Here", "We Dance". Ask me in ten years.
― Tom, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)
I appreciate the Fall's virulence, to hark back to an obvious predecessor, to Pavement's mere quirkiness. Compared to the bile Mark E. can drop from his lips, the endlessly quoted putdowns from "Range Life" seem completely wimpy and pointless.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― ethan padgett, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Omar, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― jel, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)
"Slanted.." is the only album that I play regularly, and I admit it's good, as is half of "Wowee Zowee". They CAN be almost great ("Summer Babe", "Here", "Father to a Sister of a Thought"), but seem content to pad out releases with half-arsed Pavement-by-numbers material. Or should that be Fall-by-numbers?
I lost interest by "Brighten the Corners" when it was clear that they could only do one thing, and we're probably going to do it for ever.
― Dr. C, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― JM, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-five years ago)
They make me bob my head and laugh and feel good - which is the whole of the point of Pavement (as far as I see it). And...job well-done.
'Crooked Rain, Crooken Rain' is simply brilliant in it's slackerisms. And is in my top 3 (maybe even THE) summer album list. Already have listened to it many times this very summer period and will surely listen to it many more times (as I have for past summers). It still hasn't lost it's charms on me (not come summer time, at least). Last summer, a younger cousin of mine got married. And...I played 'Crooked Rain' loud as I drove there and back as the perfect soundtrack to all that has been slacked in my young, but getting old, life. Worked perfectly for that "I'm 30. What do I have to show for it?" mood when you just want to say "Fuck it all. I'm going driving in search of some far off land of fairies and hot cocoa." (fine, maybe that's just me, but)
'Woowee Zowee' is good in many spots (nix the forced "punk" tracks). And Malkmus solo album is a solid summer album (for the most part). The rest...I don't care too much for, but. 'Crooked Rain' makes up for the rest alone.
― michael g. breece, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― gareth, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Josh, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― alex in montreal, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― gareth, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
It being Preston, Lancashire would have fitted Pavement's rather tiresome Anglophile image, I suppose.
― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)
― Lord Custos, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― ethan, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― james, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Lord Custos, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― bob snoom, Saturday, 3 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Michael B, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Michael B, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)
well because your vitriol for the indie bands you don't like is so potent! but what people don't realize is that this is only because a True Indie Rock Player cannot tolerate impure visions, hangers-on, fake players in tha tr00 game! Why ride the Night Train to Butterglory when you can have the '97 California Cabernet of Trigger Cut! latecomers get a late pass, we been up in this game since the jump!
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Michael B, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― alex in montreal, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)
best song off S&E sounds least like the rest; i'd like them if all their songs sounded like that one.
― Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:19 (seventeen years ago)
With each Pavement album, there's like six good-to-great songs, and the rest is just absolute self-indulgent wankery garbage. It's shocking that their first couple records have achieved the status of Perfect Canonical Rock Classics That Everyone Should Buy. TRUST ME - THEY'RE NOT!
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)
I completely agree with that, at least for S&E. I couldn't even listen to CRCR-- particularly that godawful single "Cut Your Hair"; Wowee Zowee and Brighten the Corners failed to make any impression on me whatsoever-- well, except that they seemed exceedingly mediocre. S&E has a few good songs, but "Here" is the standout tune, and it doesn't sound like the rest. I never feel inclined to listen to anything else by Pavement besides that song.
― Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:51 (seventeen years ago)
here?
also, classic!
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― Kevin Keller, Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:52 (seventeen years ago)
the last song sounds a lot like "here." i'm blanking on the name. "i've been waiting. anticipating."
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:01 (seventeen years ago)
pavement are my favorite band ever. it makes me a little sad to know that some people don't like them; there's certainly some aspect of their music that everyone can love. a lot of people complain about malkmus' voice (especially early), but i think that he does some fantastic things with his voice that don't really fall under the "technical" category. i've never really heard anyone say that the guy can't write a tune, mostly because that would be absurd to say. i can see why some people would be a bit put off by his (to them) excessive ennui and laid-back style, but for me that just enhanced what i loved about him. also, the more time you spend with the records, the more you can appreciate the songs which aren't as obvious at first. i know he first time i listened to S+E, i didnt really 'get' it besides "here", which i probably put on repeat for 5 hours straight. once you get adjusted to that particular style, the other stuff starts to make sense. what might ostensibly be "self-indulgent" are to me fruitful exercises in his singular, genius style. to each his own, though.
― Kevin Keller, Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:04 (seventeen years ago)
mr snrub, that's "our singer", S+E's closer
http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/nashvillecream/2009/02/the_spin_pavement_reunion_at_t.php
four-fifths of Pavement reunites (not really) for Bob N.'s wedding
― dmr, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:16 (seventeen years ago)
was spiral stairs not invited? harsh.i certainly wouldn't mind seeing Pavement play live again, but all of the hubbub and hype that would accompany a potential reunion would be dreadful, I'm sure.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:19 (seventeen years ago)
“Embrace the senile genius / watch him reinvent the wheel” is about getting stoned and making music I just determined
― Heez, Thursday, 28 August 2025 16:36 (one year ago)
could be. "Getting stoned and making music" is reflexively a blunt summarization of pavement's approach to recording & performing the album prior, a "summary act" if you will, that malkmus perhaps felt he no longer needed?
― BrianB, Thursday, 28 August 2025 17:19 (one year ago)
sorry i wasn't reflecting on pavement's career here at all. just struck me as funny when i was stoned and making music. i do think it's a good metaphor for the creative process when you're baked though
― Heez, Thursday, 28 August 2025 17:54 (one year ago)
Yeah, I get it. I'm just not stoned (at work) right now and saw aopportunity to parse pavement lyrics instead of working. ;-)
― BrianB, Thursday, 28 August 2025 18:30 (one year ago)
Hm, another new single disc “hits” collection with 2025 remasters:
https://pavement.bandcamp.com/album/hecklers-choice-big-gums-and-heavy-lifters-a-pavement-collection"> https://pavement.bandcamp.com/album/hecklers-choice-big-gums-and-heavy-lifters-a-pavement-collection
Wonder if this hints at another reissue campaign or something. Was hoping it’d be for the doc soundtrack physical release.
― better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:09 (eleven months ago)
wow what are they doing? crazy
they're doing a physical release for the soundtrack in november
― a (waterface), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:21 (eleven months ago)
A little baffled by how short (not to mention unnecessary) this is—only 12 tracks?
― spastic heritage, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:41 (eleven months ago)
Arbitrary track choices too. A bunch of "Hits" but also sporadic deepish cuts like Date w/Ikea. What is the point?
― Now read it backwards. (dog latin), Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:43 (eleven months ago)
the reasoning behind inclusion of "Ikea" is probably just "we should have a spiral song on here" ...
pretty pointless release, but I guess they just want some more product.
interested to see what the upcoming shows are like ... maybe just more of the same?
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 September 2025 14:53 (eleven months ago)
What's wrong with including "Ikea"? It's great.
― Blood On The Knobs, Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:42 (eleven months ago)
uh
― a (waterface), Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:46 (eleven months ago)
it is not good
Beggars/Matador probably realized having a greatest hits/best of collection that does not contain their ~biggest~ hit was a huge marketing miss...
so this short, attention-span-challenged collection fills in that gap.
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:47 (eleven months ago)
if we're talking spiral songs, I'd take "kennel district" over "ikea"
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:47 (eleven months ago)
but yes, this definitely feels like they're approaching the Hendrix-style legacy at this point, they should have named it "barrel scraping and depth-plumbing: strictly for the streamers" for more transparency
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:51 (eleven months ago)
^^^ or western homes (or mussel rock)
― a (waterface), Thursday, 18 September 2025 15:51 (eleven months ago)
I mean, yeah: it's basic ass greatest hits. Single disc vinyl for newcomers. I don't need it. You probably don't either. But someone does.
― Blood On The Knobs, Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:09 (eleven months ago)
Western Homes would certainly be a flex.
― Blood On The Knobs, Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:10 (eleven months ago)
Date With Ikea is great!
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:11 (eleven months ago)
it's trash
― a (waterface), Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:15 (eleven months ago)
okay, boo.
― Blood On The Knobs, Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:17 (eleven months ago)
I like “IKEA” but 12 tracks is way too stingy regardless.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:40 (eleven months ago)
Agreed. Certainly sticks to their poppier side. Could use a scuzzier companion.
― Blood On The Knobs, Thursday, 18 September 2025 16:43 (eleven months ago)
Westing!
― a (waterface), Thursday, 18 September 2025 17:02 (eleven months ago)
I don't need it. You probably don't either. But someone does.
if the target demographic here is new, young fans--and I agree that it is--aren't the vast, vast majority of them listening to music via streaming? idgi
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 18 September 2025 17:05 (eleven months ago)
well it first showed up yesterday as a spotify playlist so yes, they know how there bread is buttered.
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 18 September 2025 17:09 (eleven months ago)
their*
YUP!
― Blood On The Knobs, Thursday, 18 September 2025 17:10 (eleven months ago)
They had to go with IKEA because using “Kennel D” would’ve violated this comp’s official “no Wowee Zowee songs at all” stance.
― charlie brown from outta town (GM), Friday, 19 September 2025 08:53 (eleven months ago)
Well, that’s money I can spend elsewhere.
― Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 19 September 2025 10:05 (eleven months ago)
Seems like the main purpose is to have a single LP best-of that has "Harness Your Hopes" (and their other most-streamed songs) on it. I can imagine some newer fans buying it.
― o. nate, Friday, 19 September 2025 13:43 (eleven months ago)
Re-issue! Re-package! Re-package!Re-evaluate the songsdouble-pack with a photograph 3Extra Track (and a tacky badge)
― a (waterface), Friday, 19 September 2025 13:49 (eleven months ago)
some random guy on IG shane _ greavette has posted a bunch of videos from Pavement @ Mosswood Meltdown Pre-Party July 17 gig and they sound great. Gold Soundz is great and even the Led Zep cover is ok. Wish I had known about the Richmond, VA show on this short tour sooner (sold out w/ resale for insane prices)
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 17:02 (one month ago)
"stairway" sounds surprisingly Brighten the Corners-y haha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auoenJacNIg
― tylerw, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 17:06 (one month ago)
Seattle full set HD (Stairway veers into Down By The River):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRxPXQzmYl8
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 17:12 (one month ago)
:D
― tylerw, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 17:19 (one month ago)
seeing them tonight :)
― sufjeon steeveelutions (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 20:50 (one month ago)
Stairway replaced by "Lucifer Sam" in Cleveland 😵💫 😵💫 😵💫
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Friday, 24 July 2026 06:09 (one month ago)
Guy who posted Seattle full set above on YouTube has also now posted a full Chicago set on YouTube also. He also has clips on his Instagram
― curmudgeon, Friday, 24 July 2026 22:45 (one month ago)
They did the “Lucifer Sam” snippet in Philly too.
― spastic heritage, Saturday, 25 July 2026 12:07 (one month ago)
The Pavement episode of Rig Rundown is great. I honestly can’t tell if SM is serious or taking a piss when it comes to his “whatever…. This sounds fine” approach to guitar.
― tobo73, Thursday, 27 August 2026 18:22 (one week ago)
I don't think he's being arch at all, he is genuinely not a gearhead... Ibold's was even funnier.
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 27 August 2026 18:25 (one week ago)
Is he really that casual about tunings? I find that a little hard to believe. That shit seems so complicated to me!
― tobo73, Thursday, 27 August 2026 19:17 (one week ago)
Well, he's used that strat since at least 1991... it's been rebuilt at least once. and like he mentions, the other guitars he uses are because people recommended them to him. amp/head-wise i know he was a huge ORANGE proponent for about a decade (97-07?) and he has a couple designer pedals but yeah he keeps it pretty econo. For the Hard Quartet he just used either the in-studio options or Matt's guitars/amps/bass.
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Friday, 28 August 2026 01:00 (one week ago)
I didn't watch the whole thing but the clips I saw were hilarious ... such a juxtaposition of gearhead and punk/slacker mindsets. made me wonder who told the host guy he had to do this with this particular band.
― alpine static, Friday, 28 August 2026 05:15 (one week ago)
I got the sense that the host guy is a super fan and was trying to hit play it cool himself.
― tobo73, Friday, 28 August 2026 10:11 (one week ago)
yeah this just seems like a normal malkmus interview really
― ufo, Friday, 28 August 2026 10:11 (one week ago)
It's a hoot. I love them so much.
― Blood On The Knobs, Friday, 28 August 2026 15:03 (one week ago)
SM talks about guitars he's been given... right before covid he was touring with a St. Vincent that was... a choice? but yeah, i could see that being some product placement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQndSXx7MRQ
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Friday, 28 August 2026 16:57 (one week ago)
for those paper thin plastic tonez
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Friday, 28 August 2026 16:58 (one week ago)