Brilliant Albums of the past 15 years?

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Yes, I must admit, I was re-caught up in the whole SMiLE todo when the CD was released.

But when I got in my car this morning, it was the only CD in there. I was reluctant to put it in, since I had just gone through a little more than a week listening to it and was afraid I had "worn it out" for a while, as I tend to do. But it wasn't bad at all. In fact I was still struck by it's brilliance, although I do have many more nitpicks (that I won't go into here) than I began with.

There are few albums like this for me: Albums that, even after suffering through my personal heavy-rotation, can still amaze me.

But this got me thinking. I can't really come up with many albums from the past 15 years or so (especially the past 5) that really do this for me. I'm thinking that either I'm just not coming up with them off hand because my mind is elsewhere, or maybe I just haven't been exposed to some that merit such praise.

So I ask you, the ILM horde: What albums of the past 15 years (and the past 5, in particular) have this quality of enduring brilliance to you?

Mike Salmo (salmo), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Black Elvis/Lost in Space

lukey (Lukey G), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Stankonia.

Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

my problem is that whenever thinking what my favourite albums of all time they are ALL from the last 15 years because they're what soundtracked my formative years, growing up etc. - so i don't know if 'enduring brilliance' comes into it or at least if it does whether it should or should not override personal emotional attachment to the album. the forthcoming 90s poll will present us with a list that should divide people further, particularly as there are many who currently feel that albums of the last 15 years that WERE good are now no longer, for whatever reason. if you mean 'albums LIKE Smile (in terms of style, ethos, execution etc.) that are as GOOD as Smile' then i don't know, but if you're just asking for albums of whatever type we consider 'enduringly brilliant' then prepare yourself for an extremely long list...

Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The Chronic

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Past 15 years? Let me think...

Grand Don't Come for Free
Parachutes
Stone Roses
Paul's Boutique
Laughing Stock
The Five EPs
DI Go Pop!
Soft Bulletin
The Mollusk
Chocolate and Cheese
OK Computer
The Bends
Is This It
Let It Come Down (Spiritualized's, not James Iha's)
Fat of the Land
Uneasy Listening Volume One
Erlend Oye's DJ Kicks
dubnobasswithmyheadman

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

pauls boutique ssssssssssssssneaks in.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I think if I were to list my top 100 favourite records right now about 80% of them would be from the last 15 years. But then again, as Senor Jubbly Jubbly points out, I'm 25. The last fifteen years of music is MY MUSIC.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

It counts! 2004-15 = 1989, which was the year it was released, right?

x-post

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought MY MUSIC was a wry Radio 4 panel game compered by Steve Race with team captains Frank Muir and Ian Wallace.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah it counts - i just thought for sure (before doing any math) it was older than that.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

neutral milk hotel, in the aeroplane over the sea. I'm going to say this on every thread today!

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

my music, bought with my money...

Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

And sometimes stolen with my computer, bought with my money.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not by any means asking for albums stylisticly like SMiLE, nor a "best of" list. I'm looking for something far more personal and subjective than that. (I'm really coming to believe that objective music criticism is a crock, but that's another discussion for another day.) I'm just giving my SMiLE story as a reference. Take the feeling that I described with the SMiLE example, and let me know what does that for you from the past 15 years.

There are plenty of albums that I think are great and would rank in a top whatever list, but I would not call them brilliant. Most of my favorite albums, in fact albums I would say I love more than my example SMiLE, don't fall into this category. Say, for example, Unknown Pleasures. I would be more likely to cite it in a best/favorite/whatever list. However, I can easily wear the album out, and if I'm not in the right mood it strikes me as totally inappropriate. Or take Aphex Twin or a lot of Eno's ambient work. When I first throw it on, I'm amazed by the brilliance, but after heavy rotation that feeling falls apart.

When I say "enduring" I don't mean over the course of many years, that wouldn't make sense. I mean more, over the course of many listens and especially for people who care a lot about music, have strong opinions about music, and can sometimes be (dare I say?) hyper-critical of music. I think most of the folks 'round here fall into that category. I know I do.

Mike Salmo (salmo), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

sonny sharrock's ask the ages falls into this category for me, but i only first heard it this year or late last year, so it has only had that long to endure. i predict itll last for me, though. it's so so cryptic and smoldering.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Disintegration
Beaucoup Fish
Emancipation
Kid A
Aquemini
The Low End Theory
De La Soul Is Dead
Some Friendly
Miss Happiness
Baduizm

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, well I've had two from this year that I've played until the wax fell off (metaphorically); the Bark Psychosis album and the Embrace album.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost) I think I see where you're going with this, Mike. I love "In Sides", and it's definitely one of my top ten albums ever. But it has its good days and its best days. OTOH, Pulp's "His N Hers" has only best days ... there is no such thing as hearing "Pink Glove" and finding it to be anything less than heart-wrenching and emotionally exhausting. I'm a wreck after hearing it. Every time.
More albums like that (for me):

Drugstore -- Drugstore
Hollowphonic -- Majestic
Spiritualized -- Let It Come Down
Plastikman -- Closer
Sigur Ros -- {}

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh God, YES _In Sides_, too.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

If you're asking about albums from the last fifteen years that are daily companions--that never seem to get tired--the best I can offer is:

Radiohead - "OK Computer" and "Kid A"
Talk Talk - "Laughing Stock"
Flaming Lips - "Soft Bulletin"
Clinic - "Internal Wrangler" (my vinyl is basically unplayable at this point)
Saint Etienne - "Too Young to Die"
Archer Prewitt - "White Sky"
Dntel - "Life Is Full of Possibilities"
Fennesz - "Endless Summer"
Interpol - "Turn on the Bright Lights"
Underworld - "Everything, Everything"
U2 - "Achtung Baby"
Wrens - "The Meadowlands"
The Verve, "Urban Hymns"
Songs:Ohia: "Magnolia Electric Co."

These are not my favorite albums even from 1989 to the present, but they're probably what I listen to the most, crazy as that might be. I never get tired of them and I continually this "holy shit, this is good!" even when I've heard it a thousand times (and even when it's kind of lame).

mrjosh (mrjosh), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Welp, I would say:
Second Coming
One Hot Minute
Strays
Results May Vary
Pablo Honey
Machina I

Dave-O, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh! And Blackalicious, "Melodica"

mrjosh (mrjosh), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

well the 90s was the only time albums really could mean something to me (these days it's more about individual tracks and bunches of albums that meant a lot/soundtracked/struck me as brilliant at the time they were released (or in some cases a few years after as i hadn't picked up on them at the time) and still today (tho maybe more in a somewhat rose-tinted way)

De La Soul 'Three Feet High & Rising'
808 State '90'
Happy Mondays 'Pills, Thrills & Bellyache'
Public Enemy 'Fear Of A Black Planet'
808 State 'Ex:El'
Altern 8 'Full On...Mask Hysteria'
Prodigy 'Experience'
Massive Attack 'Blue Lines'
Primal Scream 'Screamadelica'
Orbital 'Untitled (brown album)'
Bjork 'Debut'
Beastie Boys 'Check Your Head'
Prodigy 'Music For The Jilted Generation'
Portishead 'Glory Box'
Massive Attack 'Protection'
Oasis 'Definitely Maybe'
Beastie Boys 'Ill Communication'
Tricky 'Maxinquaye'
Underworld 'Dubnobasswithmyheadman'
Goldie 'Timeless'
Leftfield 'Leftism'
Bjork 'Post'
Underworld 'Second Toughest In The Infants'
Carl Craig 'Landcruising'
L.F.O. 'Advance'
Chemical Brothers 'Dig Your Own Hole'
DJ Shadow 'Endtroducing...'
Orbital 'In Sides'
Roni Size Reprazent 'New Forms'
Primal Scream 'Vanishing Point'
Radiohead 'OK Computer'
David Holmes 'Let's Get Killed'
Daft Punk 'Homework'
Coldcut 'Let Us Play'
Air 'Premiers Symptomes'
Beastie Boys 'Hello Nasty'
Basement Jaxx 'Remedy'

no Wu-Tang cos i never bought or listened to the actual albums, no stuff i loved at the time but would be embarassed about and hard pushed to defend now (uh, 'Achtung Baby', 'Ten')

Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Vanishing Point over XTRMNTR?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

from this decade, 'Since I Left You', 'Rooty', 'Kid A', 'Discovery' depending what mood i'm in and rather than pick the three most lauded BOC albums (inc. Twoism) i'd pick the Boc Maxima collection above them all (released in the 90s tho i know)

Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Nearly God.

maria b (maria b), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Not too many, unfortunately: "SMiLE," "Love and Theft," "Car Wheels on a Gravel Road," "Diary of a Mod Housewife," "Friends of Rachel Worth" and maybe the White Stripes' last two are the only ones that come to mind right away.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

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unfortunately underacknowledged brilliance (nickalicious), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i might add things like 'Violator' and 'Boces' and 'Emperor Tomato Ketchup' but i never owned them or knew them that well. my above list is very 'obvious' and 'canonical' i suppose - but it might be interesting to hear reasons that stop others thinking of them as brilliant.

might need more time to think of 'original pirate material' and 'boy in da corner' as up there, ditto 'x factor' and 'kish kash'.

Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I'd say:

Michael Jackson - Dangerous
Cornelius - 69/96, Fantasma and CM/CM2
Basement Jaxx - Rooty and Kish Kash
Flipper's Guitar - Doctor Head's World Tower
Kiley Dean - Simple Girl
Paul's Boutique
Endtroducing
Fight Club
Since I Left You
X-Factor Vol. 1
Vanishing Point/XTRMNTR
Experience
Parklife
The London Funk Allstars - Flesh Eating Disco Zombies vs The Bionic Hookers From Mars
V/A - Trattoria Records Presents Anchor

And others.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

avalanches - since i left you never seems to get old

ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Fantasma not only never gets old to me, it almost feels like, with each listen, I'm a little bit closer to understanding it fully.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess Senor Embargo half-mentioned it, but I'll put in a full vote for Depeche Mode - Violator (Dan, where were you on that one?!?). Everything else on my list has been taken once or twice, no big suprises. So far Kid A is the only album from this decade I've continued to utterly adore, Discovery and The Glow Pt. 2 wore themselves out fairly quick.

Sansai, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick, I'm gonna gmail you 'Lazy' by Cornelius soon.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

and me!

Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

add 'U.F.Orb' to my list

Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick, have you ever heard 69/96 (or the 3rd Flipper's Guitar album)? Definitely helps with the understanding Fantasma business.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't yet! I keep looking for it when I'm at the record store, I should just go ahead and order it considering how much I cum all over myself from everything else of his I've heard. I have something else that is credited to Cornelius that may be Flipper's Guitar, it's all lush and bossa nova-y and stuff.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

While I might be shouted down for my indie/college rock leanings, there were a couple of Pixies and Pavement albums that I would characterize as brilliant.

Bruce S. Urquhart (BanjoMania), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick and Steve, I hope one or both of you have the file now, because all I can see is "sending".

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I have it duder, but I'm having trouble playing it, as it's an m4a file. I think I can convert it to play or something like that.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, here's some thoughts I'm having after parusing the lists and my CDs (and yes, you'll notice my world is mostly rock-centric).

- The Airbag EP is about all I still put on from Radiohead and really appreciate in full
- dubnobasswithmyheadman still does it for me
- In Sides is in
- Disintegration
- The Low End Theory
- Oddly enough Zooropa sounds better to me now than Achtung. Although I still enjoy the second half of Achtung.
- Bluelines
- Post
- Moon Safari
- Violator for sure
- The Orb's Adventures Beyond Ultraworld
- Midnight Vultures (I know, I know..)
- I'll venture to say, actually, Sonic Nurse (worst title ever)
- Turn On the Bright Lights barely makes the cut
- Stone Roses
- Mars Audiac Quintet

It's interesting. I just flipped through a bunch of CDs and I see bands I love, and even albums I love, but not much from them that fits into this, or meets the timeframe requirement (Pixies, etc.).

Now it's time to throw on some CDs that have gathered dust and try them on again. Also need to buy used copies or something of some discs I lost in college, and try out some things I haven't hear from some of your lists.

Now I'm noticing that most of the "happy" music I love is pre-1980, while the more "down" stuff is post-1980.... Hmmm. Anyone else that way?

Mike Salmo (salmo), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess Senor Embargo half-mentioned it, but I'll put in a full vote for Depeche Mode - Violator (Dan, where were you on that one?!?).

I was hopping back and forth between work and ILM! That is a glaring oversight, but then you have to wonder if the glaring oversight isn't actually _Ultra_...

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The only albums from 1990 - 2000 that I still listen to regularly are Bran Van 3000's Discosis, Seal's second self-titled album (from 1993) and Matthew Sweet's In Reverse. Miseducation of Lauryn Hill was up there for a while too, but I haven't listened to it in about two years.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

my bloody valentine – loveless
ghostface killah - supreme clientele and the pretty toney album
gza - liquid swords
low – secret name and a lifetime of temporary relief disc 2
dmx - and then there was x...
bubba sparxxx - deliverance
radiohead - ok computer, kid a and amnesiac
bone thugs and harmony - e1999 eternal
ice cube - amerikkkas most wanted
susuma yokota – sakura
massive attack – mezzanine
manic street preachers – everything must go
blur – parklife and the great escape
notorious big – ready to die
jeff buckley – grace
snoop doggy dogg – doggystyle
yo la tengo – I can hear the heart beating as one
lemonheads – it’s a shame about ray
sparklehorse – vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot
jay-z - hard knock life vol.2 and the blueprint
rem - new adventures in hi-fi
eminem - marshall mathers lp
beck - odelay and mutations
geto boys - we can't be stopped
nas - illmatic
basement jaxx - rooty
biosphere - substrata
suede - dog man star
orbital - brown
black box recorder - the facts of life
aphex twin - SAW 85-92 and SAW Vol.2
pavement - slanted and enchanted and terror twilight
underworld - beaucoup fish and everything, everything
daft punk - discovery
teenage fanclub - grand prix
boards of canada - music has the right... and geoggadi
big punisher - capital punishment
autechre - amber and incunabula
rza - as bobby digital in stereo
wilco - summerteeth
plaid - double figure
mum - finally we are no-one
nirvana - nevermind and in utero
smashing pumpkins - adore
ginuwine - 100% ginuwine
petey pablo - still writing...the 2nd entry
capone n noreaga - the war report
gravediggaz - 6ft deep
mullholland drive soundtrack

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

a couple of those i only got in the last month or so, but i'm enjoying them so much i might as well include them

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh hey, no one mentioned NIN - The Downward Spiral yet. Second half stumbles a couple times in the songwriting department, but the first half is nearly flawless in every aspect.

Sansai, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)


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