The Stones' "Monkey Man" now being used in a Victoria's Secret ad....

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...featuring Giselle assuming a number of poses. Sure, it's nice to look at....but did they have to use that song?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a cold italian pizza!

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

the video...

http://www2.victoriassecret.com/collection/main.cfm?rfnbr=579&cgnbr=OSBRPBBVBRA&hp=true

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Better Giselle than Ray Liotta on coke, I guess.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 7 October 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

thanx alex for the painful reminder - this was the latest corporate co-opt of rock i luv that made me want to die (the last being that mojave 3 song being used to shill for fuggin HUMMER vehicles) - i was sitting on the couch with friends when this abortion appeared and after the initial shock wore off all i could muster was to mumble dejectedly: "wow, that is singularly the best rolling stone song ever recorded...fuck."

― j.m. lockery, Thursday, 7 October 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"wow, that is singularly the best rolling stone song ever recorded...fuck."

OTM....which is what makes this such a tragedy.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

You act as if they broke into the house and took the song while Mick was sleeping.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The trick is to not watch so much fucking TV.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Some of us don't have that choice, Aaron.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Wha? Mute the commercials then, sheesh.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

there are breasts! there is the stones! it is a match made in heaven!

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Better Giselle than Ray Liotta on coke, I guess

But hearing "What is Life" makes me squeal my tires more because of that movie!

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i still can't believe that i just saw le tigre's "decepticon" in a phone company ad

― Symplistic (shmuel), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The other day I heard your record play
It seemed to say, "All for money."
Your punk rock words now corporate rhetoric
We hear the voice of your ambition
All for money
All so phony
The other day I read your epitaph
It seemed to say, "All for money."
Your punk rock masks are now deep underground
We see the face of your true feelings
All for money
All so phony

May you rest in peace
May you not return
We've seen the truth
We're glad you're gone

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:19 (twenty-one years ago)

this is one of those pet peeves that you either share and fully understand or you are of the class who apparently feel that "hey-its a free market, baby, so let the plunder of any artwork for short-term profit rip!" or something like that, i guess. certainly you might just not give a fuck either, which is reasonable. the pro-plunder perspective i can appreciate as a fellow fully-indoctrinated product of american culture, i just dont have to agree with it at all. i'll leave it to bill hicks to elucidate what i feel when i see one of my artistic heroes selling their work to make wealthy corporations wealthier and then y'all can tear into my whiny elitist ass: "do a commercial you're off the artistic roll call. every word you say is suspect. you are a corporate whore. end of story, okay?. you're another corporate fuckin shill. you're another whore at the capitalist gangbang. and if you do a commercial, there's a price on your head. everything you say is suspect and every word that comes out of your mouth is now like a turd falling into my drink. and yes i have been offered commercial opportunities, so i'm not just jealous. i've turned them all down because i'm not a salesman! and i dont need money that's built on blood. dont see how every word i have said would be hollow and filled with nothing? you do a commercial and you are officially off the artistic roll call. and that goes for everyone except....willie nelson. 21 million dollar tax bill means willie was a little looser than everyone else. poor fuckin willie! lets pass the hat and get him off the taco bell commercial!

― j.m. lockery, Friday, 8 October 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I just think it's funny that a song that contains the lyric, "Let me hear you depoliticize my rhyme" is now a phone commercial. That K-Han, ever the hypocrite.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

while i appreciate the hicks bit, the rolling stones are hardly anything but a corporation themselves these days.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it rings a lot truer for someone like Le Tigre who still try to pass themselves off as "important".

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

while i appreciate the hicks bit, the rolling stones are hardly anything but a corporation themselves these days.

i actually really agree with this point. this whole thread's shock value is vastly underwhelming due to the fact that the subject is the rolling stones, circa-now. but monkey-man is not circa-now, it is circa-therollingstonesattheirabsolutebest. but i guess this debate/discussion is far more apt when the sell-outs are supposedly DIY or "indie" bands or whatever. i mean, isn't that particular musical ghetto the genesis for this whole "sellout" debate anyway? but then that line has gotten so blurred over the last 20 years that it really comes down to a matter of personal principles, which can make it abominable even when some hugely successful, major label act sells one of their songs to promote a corporate product even at the same time that the band itself is a goddamned corporate product. hey, didn't bob dylan do a victoria's secret ad a little while ago too? wtf!? i feel like roddy piper in that b-flick "they live" when he puts on those sunglasses!

― j.m. lockery, Friday, 8 October 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

but monkey-man is not circa-now, it is circa-therollingstonesattheirabsolutebest

Exactly. I wouldn't care if they were using "Love is Strong" or "Harlem Shuffle" or some shit like that.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not a U2 fan, but Bono said it best: that it's embarrassing to see rock and roll bend over, to see a rock star sidle up to a cola can and kiss it for the money.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 9 October 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Kyle's point upthread brings it home for me. 'Monkey Man' is always made better by a tittie video and not by some office worker nostalgia.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Saturday, 9 October 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually I wasn't so much knocking the usage of "Monkey Man" in Goodfellas as I was trying to completely disassociate the terms "Victoria's Secret ad" and "Ray Liotta".

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Saturday, 9 October 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Anything's better than "You Can't Always Get What You Want"'s being used in that C2 ad.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 9 October 2004 07:45 (twenty-one years ago)

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