New Buffalo, Bitches!

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The new album is really really good. Not surprising (unless you count the first track having a rhythm that sounds like Diwali from a room down the hall) but really really good nonetheless. New Buffalo make me want to fall in love with indie again (AKA I bought Margerine Eclispe but why despite geeta's raves do I not love it as much as this?).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 7 October 2004 11:04 (twenty years ago)

I'm jealous! So this sucker is out, hmmm...can I Paypal you some cash to pick it up? ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:00 (twenty years ago)

*clamors* Will somebody please hook me up or tell me where to buy!!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Tell me more. I do not know of this New Buffalo. Although the highway rest stop in New Buffalo, Michigan, is not bad.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago)

http://www.roadfan.com/i94mie4.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago)

New Buffalo aka Sally Russell makes Avalanches type music but with a slightly more indie bent (as opposed to dance/hip-hop, however, they certainly inhabit the same imaginary universe for me). I think it sounds like a lo-fi (but in a good way) MBV. Lots of pitch bends and crackling textures and pretty vocal melodies. It is also interesting to note that Sally is married to Darren of The Avalanches.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:15 (twenty years ago)

*clamors* Will somebody please hook me up or tell me where to buy!!!!

Actually, wait, who exactly is appearing next Thursday at Spaceland...?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, sounds really nice!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago)

it is!

Actually, wait, who exactly is appearing next Thursday at Spaceland...?

Good point! We'll make them give us their copy!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:23 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc -- yeah, it's really great stuff! Why, I think I'll have to foist some on your brother so he'll want to go to this Spaceland thing too. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Ned, I'm pretty sure the show will not be New Buffalo flavored. I'm expecting METAL and SOCA!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:29 (twenty years ago)

Maybe that's her new direction!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:29 (twenty years ago)

(Metal and soca, though, Tom and Jel should come to this thing.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Just to be clear, New Buffalo will *not* be playing. The Spaceland listing:

BUMBLEBEEZ 81
CUT COPY
WOLFMOTHER
2 DRUNK AVALANCHES PLAYING BAD RECORDS

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Wait: so "2 Drunk Avalanches" IS actually the Avalanches? This lineup is at CMJ, too!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:33 (twenty years ago)

Well, 2 of them and drunk, yes. But it's not the whole crazy live Avalanches apocalypse.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 October 2004 18:35 (twenty years ago)

ooooooooooooh, this Cut Copy track I'm listening to, "Glittering Clouds" is amazing!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 October 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago)

You took your time, Spencer!

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Thursday, 7 October 2004 19:10 (twenty years ago)

I don't get it!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 October 2004 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Cut Copy, dude.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Thursday, 7 October 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago)

And since I naturally purchased the '16 Beats' UK release, I'd love to hear new stuff.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Thursday, 7 October 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago)

OH! Yeah, I only just did a search because they're on this bill. In addition to "Glittering Clouds", "Saturdays" is great!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 October 2004 19:41 (twenty years ago)

For people who've heard the About Last Night ep, the album is in much the same vein (it was recorded last year apparently). It's slightly less obviously Avalanches-ish in the specific sound but pretty much the same in feel - the crackly "take a little journey" style samples are less evident, substituted by woozy keyboards, electronics, amassed choral auto-harmonies, horns, etc. but everything is still intensely layered and dreamlike - the fact that Darren didn't work on production but helped Sally build her studio might clue you in on the nature of the slight shift.

It's a short album - ten songs in 36 minutes or so - but I think that works exactly as it should. Despite the sonic largesse there's something very humble about Sally's songs, her melodies, her vocals, that suits this small-scale format. Still, it would be interesting to hear her do more epics in the vein of "About Last Night" - everything on the album is more focused and obviously song-based than that track. Some of these songs are just gorgeous though - "I've Got You & You've Got Me (Song Of Contentment)" is just astonishing, and so is "It'll Be Alright", which reminds me of the Disco Inferno eps.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:43 (twenty years ago)

What is the album called?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:53 (twenty years ago)

The Last Beautiful Day

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 7 October 2004 23:02 (twenty years ago)

the projects cd is also better than margerine eclipse(which i love).

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 8 October 2004 01:07 (twenty years ago)

"the last beautiful day" is a great album, although i find it a little sterile compared to the recent live shows. "recovery" is a beautiful little pop song plus it reminds me of a song of mine. there's a solo guitar song she's been closing her sets with recently that's not on the album, which is a shame because it's probably my favourite thing of hers, now..

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:17 (twenty years ago)

what NB are doing is very very different to anything else in australia at the moment, which makes me worry that her appeal will remain select in this creatively backwards country..

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:19 (twenty years ago)

Actually I'm astonished that this stuff *is* so unique. I thought indie kids all bought Since I Left You. Did electroclash sweep away people's plans to respond to that album?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:59 (twenty years ago)

it doesn't seem like the new label she's on has great distribution yet (wasn't in stores over here last week), but hopefully i'll be able to pick up a copy in the city tomorrow. 'recovery' is a gorgeous track.

what NB are doing is very very different to anything else in australia at the moment, which makes me worry that her appeal will remain select in this creatively backwards country..
-- the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound@hotmail.com), October 8th, 2004.

its a shame but not surprising, i don't think the first ep sold well here, nor did it attract much airplay at the time? probably another case where they'll have to make some noise overseas before the rest of australia sit up and take notice.

Mil (Mil), Friday, 8 October 2004 11:36 (twenty years ago)

I thought indie kids all bought Since I Left You.

They bought it, but they don't actually listen to it. I've heard this from many many indie types. That's why it's so prevalent in the used bins here.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 8 October 2004 17:36 (twenty years ago)

I find I don't listen to it much myself, honestly, but not out of hatred. It's more the feeling of a really, really rich cake for dessert -- you can OD quickly! Sparingly, it makes the beauty and detail more attractive to reencounter.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 October 2004 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Frankly, I can't listen to it enough. Probably bi-weekly, even now. I don't know how you can OD on something with *so many* wonderful and disparate things going on.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 8 October 2004 17:51 (twenty years ago)

But such are ways opinion works! I'm actually attracted more right now, for instance, to the Junior Boys' near-complete opposite approach of sparseness, which while it has much less going on at the same time ends up slowly but steadily growing more and more differentiated and complex in my mind.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 October 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago)

The basis for comparing these two bands is pretty tenuous. Maybe I'll go on a Cure thread and say how I much prefer what Phoenix is doing?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago)

Spencer, my friend, I'm not trying to say the two are working in the same vein with different styles. (Though I apologize if that was the impression and I'm not clear enough.) At base I'm noting that right now, and for a while, the Avalanches aren't prompting me for regular relistens, the Junior Boys are. I'm sure a good part of it has to do with the relative age of the albums and the tour, clearly. But the fact that the Avalanches are coming to DJ really hasn't prompted me to relisten to the album at all, though when I was hearing a couple of singles on the way up to the show last night thanks to Mark I was pleased as always.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago)

I almost never listen to Since I Left You anymore but I listened to it at least once every day over the summer of 2000/2001, and I think it pretty much got me through that period (which had a fair few traumas coming off the back of a very traumatic year) - it's very specifically tied to that time of my life and my mental state then. When I listen to it now I can acknowledge it's greatness still but mostly it just provokes flashbacks.

I'd say the relevant difference w/ Junior Boys is not sonic density so much as emotional intensity. Last Exit is a very emotional record but it's also very distant, reserved, reluctant to give up its charms easily; to that extent it creates the impression of a mystery that is difficult to solve. I think this makes it a harder record to love so viscerally, but an easier record to form a long term "relationship" with. Since I Left You is much more direct - I can't remember a record that was more anxious to grab me by the throat on the first listen and [x] listens after that. But by bearing its soul, laying all of its cards on the table, it ultimately invites the listener to take it for granted. A lot of the discussion around the album now seems like damning with faint praise - people still seem to believe that the album achieved something, but something obvious or easy or one-dimensional. In hindsight, maybe it can seem like that, but at the time it was very different.

As with Kish Kash, I think my love affair with Since I Left You peaked at the end of that summer (when I wrote the review for FT), when I had absorbed and processed its abundance such that every sonic crevice and corner felt natural but not yet familiar, no longer surprising but still a wonder to behold.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 9 October 2004 03:31 (twenty years ago)

finally got a copy yesterday. i'd disagree a little with tim upthread on it being "intensely layered" though, it actually seems a lot sparser to me (certainly much more than the ep). maybe hasn't really sunk in after a few listens...? i seem to have focused on the lyrics a lot more - on paper they perhaps wouldn't stand out so much, but i think the honesty, directness and simplicity of her delivery really elevates them.

'come back' is pretty amazing. although i miss darren's production a bit, i can also see how she'd want to step away from his shadow and establish herself in her own right too. minor quibble, but the cover art could've been better... great record on the whole, though.

Mil (Mil), Friday, 15 October 2004 23:08 (twenty years ago)

Why, I missed Tim's brilliant answer a week ago. A very fine post, sir. And good to hear more about the album, Mil!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 October 2004 23:37 (twenty years ago)

a lot of people really hate the cover art. i find it mostly inoffensive but yeah that could have been done better..

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Saturday, 16 October 2004 04:08 (twenty years ago)

Mil I agree that as a whole the album is less layered - I think I was mainly responding to the first two tracks and the fourth (still my favourites by far). I've cooled on the album slightly; I still think it's great but there's a few weaker tracks whereas the EP was a solid stunner from start to finish.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:33 (twenty years ago)

I relistened to the EP tonight and was quietly indulging -- it was just what I needed then.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:34 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't say the artwork looks absolutely terrible, more just that it doesn't say much about the music within. I think it'd probably throw a lot of people off who were curious about NB's sound...

Mil (Mil), Sunday, 17 October 2004 05:26 (twenty years ago)

About Last Night is one of my favorite record covers ever. The new one is terrible and for some reason reminds me of Crash Test Dummies.

Jury's still out for me. I started thinking about what "singer-songwriter" means while listening to it. There's still a magic to it and her voice, but the production is too spare - there's nothing unexpected and the textures don't reflect or comment upon her sung emotions like they did on the EP.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 17 October 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...
this was a great album. tim (and anyone else), what do you make of the new EP? it seems very stripped back, like she's pulling away from the layered style a bit, which is a shame. maybe she just wanted to knock something out quickly to tour behind, of course. it's all pretty good except for the boring "recovery" remix.

for those (like me!) who missed it the first time, the about last night EP is getting a reissue "soon", according to the website.

haitch has no respect for artists (haitch), Saturday, 13 August 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Oh right -- this terrific record is coming out in North America on Arts & Crafts, I believe. End of the month?

nabiscothingy, Saturday, 13 August 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

the 23rd, by the looks of this. good to see it getting a wider release.

haitch has no respect for artists (haitch), Saturday, 13 August 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

i just listened to the new ep again this morning.

it is an odd's and end's thing, i wouldn't say either of the album track re-recording's are an improvement on the originals, but the one with jens lekman is pleasant enough. the recovery remix is probably my fave actually!

the unreleased tracks she's playing live are great. i hope all this overseas release biz doesn't mean we'll be waiting a year or two for the next album.

Mil (Mil), Sunday, 14 August 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
haha OMGWTF - she's on a Tim'n'Neil Finn tribute album alongside, um, Missy Higgins & Stellar & Kasey Chambers & Goldenhorse & Natalie Imbruglia &c! covering "Four Seasons In One Day"! which could actually be really compelling, despite the fact the review which alerted me to the existence of this called it "electro-arty" & "losing the plot"!

etc, Friday, 4 November 2005 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

"New Buffalo — 'Four Seasons In One Day'
I chose 'Four Seasons in One Day' because I love the lyrics. As I was recording it I realised how beautifully sad and poetic this song is, and I myself often compare the chaotic changes of the weather and seasons with the emotional and physical state, so I could really relate to it. And I live in Melbourne, so I also experience the literal meaning of the song's title! I think Tim and Neil Finn have written so many great songs, and they are usually these perfectly modest songs that grow on you with time. I have lots of memories where their songs are the sound track."

etc, Friday, 4 November 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, I should find and post my pictures of her from CMJ. I wound up seeing her on the "Day Stage" -- i.e., a hallway in Lincoln Center -- with maybe a half-dozen people sitting around, not particularly listening. Which was weird, because I was excited and standing, and at some point I realized the performance was becoming this great game where she couldn't make eye contact with any of the two or three people watching her, since that would be, you know, awkward. (Doubly interesting since she performs some songs just singing along with the backing tracks -- so it's one woman standing on a stage with a microphone, and three people standing in front of her listening.)

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 4 November 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

dug the album out & was playing it at work . . .

my coworker: "this sounds like sigur ros"

(& post the pictures, n! there's a sort've NZ equiv to new buffalo, bachelorette (except w/... pram standing in for the avalanches, maybe), & seeing her live has had similarly awkward moments)

etc, Sunday, 6 November 2005 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

I found The Last Beautiful Day disappointing, compared to About Last Night and live renditions of the songs. The decision to strip the songs down, removing the layers of electronics and loops, didn't work, IMHO. (I recall that the live versions were a bit loopier.) Apparently she locked Darren out of the studio and did it herself just to show that she could.

Before this album, she was working on an album for EMI, who ended up dropping her halfway through the project. It'd be interesting to hear how that was going.

acb (acb), Monday, 14 November 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...
Recently I bought a second-hand copy of About Last Night and can't stop listening to it. It's such a beautiful record and the songs all flow together really well. Is the album a bit disappointing by comparison, then?

braveclub (braveclub), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

kinda. the songs are a lot more straightforward, less dreamy perhaps.

jimbo (electricsound), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

I clicked on this thread because I thought the 70s biker-boogie sub-Sabbath band Buffalo had reunited. But why would more than four people on ILM give a fuck about that?, I realized too late.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:47 (eighteen years ago)

NEW BUFFALO – NEW SINGLE, NEW TOUR Cheer Me Up Thank You From the Forthcoming Album ‘Somewhere, anywhere.’ available late March

Clearing away the dreamy cinematic haze of her previous records, singer-songwriter New Buffalo (aka Sally Seltmann) returns with the first single – ‘Cheer Me Up Thank You’ - from her forthcoming second album ‘Somewhere, anywhere.’

‘Somewhere, anywhere.’ follows on from New Buffalo’s captivating 2004 album ‘The Last Beautiful Day’, which was applauded by both fans and critics alike. Featuring guest vocals from Beth Orton and drums from Dirty Three’s Jim White, ‘The Last Beautiful Day’ was described by the New York Times AND Uncut as ‘intoxicating’, with Rolling Stone including it in the Top 50 albums for the year and declaring it ‘Unique, adventurous and perfectly poised’.

Written on a century-old piano by the sea, and recorded and produced by Sally in a flower-flanked shed in her own backyard, the songs from ‘Somewhere, anywhere.’ convey a newfound directness to New Buffalo’s music that is as frank as it is beguiling.

‘Cheer Me Up Thank You’ is the first taste from Sally’s new album. To celebrate this new era, she will be taking to the road for a series of shows in the coming weeks, including a string of headline dates in early March in support of her new single.

jimbo (electricsound), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 07:53 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think I like the direction she's going in, although I haven't heard the new single.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 08:07 (eighteen years ago)

blaming her record company would probably be fairly appropriate. i understand there was a record more in the vein of the first EP that remains unfinished, but that could just be an unfounded rumour

jimbo (electricsound), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 08:20 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think I like the direction she's going in, although I haven't heard the new single.

What's wrong with a bit of seaside piano?

braveclub (braveclub), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

so what's the deal w/ her latest album? is it boring?

t_g, Thursday, 19 July 2007 08:15 (eighteen years ago)

"It's True" is a really great song, but...um, yeah. The rest is a little boring.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 19 July 2007 08:17 (eighteen years ago)

:( why cant she just keep on re-making the ep over & over again??? (seriously)

t_g, Thursday, 19 July 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

the Feist single she wrote outshines her own new stuff by a long shot

energy flash gordon, Thursday, 19 July 2007 11:08 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

Latest album is GREAT - I like it much more than the last one which was too spare. "Emotional Champ" is the most immediate thing for me so far.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 02:29 (seventeen years ago)

o is the new one less spare? that makes me think i'd like it. i was worried it was too girl-and-a-piano.

t_g, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 09:12 (seventeen years ago)

There's definitely more going on than on the last record.

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 15 November 2007 00:32 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Maybe my tastes or expectations have changed a bit, but I've been revisiting The Last Beautiful Day and *really* like it now - not sure what I 'wasn't' hearing before.

Also, there was an EP released after that contains a couple amazing reworks/remixes: "Inside (The Corrections) feat. Jens Lekman" and the Broken Social Scene remix of "I've Got You and You've Got Me". There's also an alternate version of "I've Got You.." that adds this plaintive overdriven guitar which really reminds me of The Jesus and Mary Chain's "remix" of "Birthday" by The Sugarcubes.

Spencer Chow, Saturday, 15 December 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

did anyone know she had a new album? i didnt

just sayin, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:53 (fifteen years ago)

i did but i can't really say i'm terribly excited by it

the leading single is a decent enough tune but i find the lyrics unbearable

from the unhip (electricsound), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 08:23 (fifteen years ago)

went to her instore on Sat morning bcz I was curious but not enough to buy the album (and I was at Orbital when she did a proper gig with her hubby last month)

it was aight

it's all abt groups, like i was saying in the jerk thread a few days ago (sic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)


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