Manitoba to become Caribou

fuck you!

Manitoba changes name to Caribou

Launch music report Manitoba becomes Caribou due to a wacky US judge and a stoopid poxy 70s yanky punk artist.

Snaith is currently working on what will be the first Caribou album, tentatively entitled "The Milk of Human Kindness".

His previous albums "Up In Flames" and "Start Breaking My Heart" will be withdrawn and re-released worldwide under the new name.

Surely if Snaith was smart, he could be carried in the US with a name: The Maple Leaf Manitoba - with the rest world unchanged.

REPENT!!!!!, REPENT!!!!!

(this is me as alex in nyc but i totally agree with him, so i'm serving as his unoffical emissary)

"Biography by Leon Jackson
Prior to their breakup in the early 1990s, Carabou were one of the most popular pop groups in Thailand. Their 1987 album, Made in Thailand, was laced with hidden attacks on the Capitalist status quo."

Snaith should have used The Maple Leaf Manitoba - in the US and verbally attacked in both judge and plank punk on a track on the next album.

This is the case whether the trademark is registered or not. And to be honest, it sounds like Handsome Dick Manitoba probably wasn't even declared publicly as a trademark, let alone registered.

I mean what the f*&^? The guy was a punk artist and now he's drawing up cease and desist letters and law suits with no basis, just to scare folks into giving him money/stop what they're doing.

But also it looks like Dan got the letter, talked some smack to his friends, but in the end chickened out of defending himself. A simple letter from a reputable Legal Firm would have probably cleared this up right away. The chance of this ever entering a court room is slim to none. Even if Dick was abstinent a judge would toss this out pronto.

He did release something under the name "Manitoba's Wild Kingdom", though. (I just found this out because I wondered how that band escaped legal wrath. Turns out it was his band.)

(xpost nick if you think the overage of publicity generated from this incident is enough to make up for the brand name recognition lost by having to go from manitoba to caribou, then, well, i don't know what.)

(btw, I don't even know if I like Manicaritobabou. I've got one mp3 which has got some guitar and huge live-sounding drums. If the rest of the album sounds like that, I'd probably like it.)

manitoba is
manicaritobabou,
post-litigation.

http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicArtistsM/manitoba.html

June 25, 2004
What's in a name? Just ask Manitoba
By ROB WILLIAMS
Winnipeg Sun

When Dan Snaith talks to Canadian journalists he always has to answer the same question: Why does he record and perform as Manitoba?

"I'm not from Manitoba and haven't been there in 10 years but I wanted a name that to most people was totally meaningless," he says over the phone from his London, England, home.

"I wanted something that represented something Canadian and out of the way and not trendy; something more down-to-Earth instead of it's in this week and out the next.

"I also like the way Manitoba looks and sounds and going around the world hearing people putting the emphasis on different syllables."

How about: Klaus Flouride v. Aquafresh

-- peter smith (reesewitherspoo...), October 7th, 2004.

actually, Domino Record Co. *did* attempt to fight it but they felt their chances, if it went to court, were basically 50/50. All Dick had to prove was that a reasonable number of people might have bought a Snaith disc thinking it was a Dick disc, and he had a valid case. As well, Dick had one of NYC's top copyright lawyers working pro bono and Domino would have to cough up the cash for one of their own to match, which wouldn't have been cheap. basically Domino and Snaith made the choice that would hurt them the least financially. yeah, they coulda won, but the way things work they coulda lost just as easily.

Manitoba would never be in the punk section of a record store.

Anyone buying a Manitoba - Up in Flames - expecting a punk record by a washed by old punk from the 70s - needs to be certified mentally incapacitated i.e incapable of making basic economic consumer decisions.

on the otherhand Manitoba - Up in Flames was one of the most critically acclaimed albums of 2003 [Number 11 most acclaimed album using the metacritic scores] with many US and UK publications championing the album.
http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/manitoba/upinflames/

http://www.metacritic.com/music/bests/2003.shtml

come on many entertainment/ brand/ music lawyers in NYC would love to fite the case, surely?

How did he manage that?

what should MANITOBA change his name too?

wait, did this guy get permission from the UK pop singer of the same name to write this article? robbie's lawyers are going to have a field day.

oh, and fuck handsome dick. i'm not just saying this because of my canuck-ness. i really can't imagine what benefit he was hoping to achieve from this. did dan fuck his girlfriend or something? jesus. i won't go into it but for the record i've been involved in a lot of music/legal issues over the years and this is the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen go through the system.

This is the key point. As for:

Surely if Snaith was smart, he could be carried in the US with a name: The Maple Leaf Manitoba - with the rest world unchanged.

My understanding is that the legal settlement made it clear that the new name could have no reference whatsoever to "Manitoba", so this wasn't an option.

Due to a lawsuit in the US I've been forced to change my name from 'Manitoba' to 'Caribou'. Full details are below but suffice it to say I'm left in equal parts confused, enraged and saddened by this aggressive litigious behaviour which doesn't seem to me to have benefitted anyone.
The good news is that Up In Flames and Start Breaking My Heart will still be available through the usual sources under the name Caribou and that I'm half way through working on a new album which I'm really happy with so far.
As always, I really appreciate the feedback I get from people about my music and thanks for your continued support.
Dan

Manitoba is Canadian not a yank, he could have said fook you, i am using am using: The Maple Leaf Manitoba - this represents and reasserts my national identify.

The Maple Leaf = Canadian Identity
Manitoba = part of Canada

These words have nothing to do with a washed out has been punk, that has not released any music of note under the brand name Manitoba this century.

A region state of Canada is way more important than a surname of an obscure punk that means naff all in the 21st century [and certainly that Dan Snaith was completely unaware of]. Stating the obvious from facts this Dick Manitoba has never released music under the id Manitoba ! never mind The Maple Leaf Manitoba

So what if a musician has the same surname as a entity such as Canadian region - this does not give him automatic legal rights to exclusive use of that name in music.

the only way this Dick Manitoba would have a case if Manitoba was making punk rock music of a similar style to The Dictators, and this was causing some confusion.

I am sorry on this one Leaf & Domino should have made a stand, they need to stand up to malicious bully wankers such as Handsome Dick Manitoba.

What good is all that Franz Ferdinand money if they're not going to waste it?!

Where are the Arafat speeches?
Where is the sound of Apache gunships over the West Bank?
Where is my free souveneir section of the security wall?

I demand my money back - and I'll see you in court, Lynne.

Just got a press release that might shed a little more light on the Handsome Dick Manitoba thing, apparently he was readying a band called, wait for it, Manitoba to unleash on the world...

Their culture was dying, and their music was on it's way out. Something had to be done.They could no longer stand idly by. They were chomping at the bit to play rock and roll.They needed to do their part to help save this wonderful music that so defined theirlives. So they formed a band. And they went out into the world and played live. Fivewhite boys, bangin' on toys....and they would call themselves...MANITOBA!

Born and raised in New York City, MANITOBA'S punk/hard rock roots date back toCBGB and beyond. Led by former Dictators, Manitoba's Wild Kingdom, and occasionalDKT/MC5 frontman Handsome Dick Manitoba, the band is is comprised of a mightycrew. Ross The Boss (Dictators, Manowar, Manitoba's Wild Kingdom) on lead guitarteams up his with pal, guitarist Daniel Rey (Ramones songwriter and producer, RonnieSpector, MWK). Add JP "Thunderbolt" Patterson (Dictators, MWK) absolutely smashingthe drum kit and big, bad Dean "The Dream" Rispler's (Murphy's Law) pounding bass tothe mix and there you have it...Two great guitar players and a killer, melodic, throbbingrhythm section led by the world's greatest entertainer. MANITOBA. Simple.Unpretentious. LOUD. FUN. The way it's SUPPOSED to be!

good fodder for the obnoxious pr copy thread

Hahahaha. Interpreted headline to mean the province's name was changing and just 0_o'd at it for a while wondering why/how.

Dean "The Dream" Rispler'

whew narrowly avoiding disaster here

mightycrew