Feature Response: Am I Cool Or Not

Fuck this bitter misanthropic misogynist racist bigot shit. I can't believe that the ft audience can all be such secret scumbags. My answer -- either dump the anonymity or dump the feature. Alternately, just censor anything that goes outside yer editorial bounds. Lester Bangs has an article on racism in the punk scene which addresses thiss question -- when does "good" offensive turn into "bad" offensive?

It would be interesting, I suppose, to learn whether some respondents are being ignorantly offensive in an attempt to be funny, ignorantly offensive in an attempt to be truthful, or deliberately offensive.

I love the idea of the feature but I've never found the actual responses very entertaining. I don't understand the uproar about this week's victim, though. I thought the whole idea was to be nasty and generalize about a stranger's appearence! Why else would someone send a picture in unless they're willing to be made fun of? The whole IDEA of the piece is to be shallow and judgmental for entertainment's sake. She's Asian, sure, people are going to comment on it. Just like they commented on Ned's haircut (which is a lot more mean spirited, in my opinion.) I don't think that makes them "racists." The fact that bitchcakes can take this line:

"britpop. britpop, britpop, britpop. she shops at overpriced vintage shops and has a penpal relationship with all of suede. this is her prom picture, when all she listened to was pavement and weezer."

and call the writer a "a racist college boy with an indie Asian girl fetish" is terrifying, and I'll certainly never visit that page again.

I didn't contribute to the comments, but if I had, I would probably have said something quite stupid, but less dismissive. I don't know. It didn't offend me when I first read it. Before reading what Ally wrote on her page about it, I didn't even know there WERE stereotypes about attractive well-dressed Asian girls, and I don't know if those stereotypes are based on any kind of truth. I was surprised by how harsh the responses were about her, though. Anyway, I just read them a second time, and I see how some of 'em are pretty tasteless and many are rather condescending, though I haven't checked comments about past female "victims" to see if those were any different. Thing is, the exercise is at least partly about throwing stereotypes around and having fun with 'em - you ARE judging a person strictly from a picture after all.

It would be nice to hear from some of the respondants, if they haven't been scared away by now.

sterling's statement was a bit overdone. i think most of the respondents are simply guilty of faceless unintentioned cruelty, but i agree with mark and wonder if that is not, indeed, the point of the exercise. this whole melodramatic bit of indignation rings a bit silly especially from these particular corners where rudeness is not quiescent and actually quite vigorous.

I think "good offensive" turns into "bad offensive" when you poke fun at the Freaky Trigger audience (just for kicks, mind you). Take a look at the responses I got with my total tongue-in-cheek "Cutesy to be elitist" post. I thought I was being transparently moronic. Some people obviously thought I was trying to be a wiseguy social satirist anti-everything showoff, I guess, with nothing to back it up (not that I have anything to back it up, mind you, but I wasn't trying to come off that way in the first place!)

I am convinced that memetics are stronger than individual will when I see some of the humorless responses. I'm still getting the occasional jibe for that post (though they seem to be typically knee-jerk, thoughtless one-offs pidgeonholing me into some sort of "misfit unenlightened jerk" category).

By the way, "neuromancer@antisocial.com" is a JOKE, people. It's an email addy I registered about a month ago when I read of the fairly new "Chaos Magick" trend (an attraction for those anarchist/satanist dorks that "grew up" to leech onto a new form of rebelliousness/power center and comfortable subculture).

I am so sure the average self-impressed scenester here sees me as a post-satanist/anarchist/hacker-wanna- be/buzzwordy pseudo-intellectual. This is something I enjoy, as I play the role quite well when I use words like "memetics". But, then again, these are the very elitist people I was baiting in the first place, wasn't it? Too bad they can't see it, I guess.

Not like I was really TRYING to start a fight. I was being a jackass.

I was depressed by the answers posted the past few weeks, but this week especially. I had really hoped that the people who like this site were a bit more thoughtful than to write some of the disturbing comments that have been posted on the "Am I Cool or Not" page.

A lot of them reminded of that Thom Yorke quote: "Honestly I've never met a beautiful girl that I really liked." Just because she's an attractive girl that's (gasp!) smiling in the photo, there were so many demeaning assumptions made about her -- most of which had nothing to do with the music. And the premise of this page was to guess what kind of music the person liked based on the picture, was it not?

Actually, right from the first female AICON entry, I have noticed that a lot of comments weren't so much about what kind of music the person was into, but more about whether she would be girlfriend material or not. I'm not sure what exactly triggered it, but these type of comments have gotten worse as the weeks dragged on.

And that's not to say that the past few weeks haven't been unnecessarily nasty toward some of the male submissions -- they have been. However, the tone is nowhere near as condescending and slightly more grounded in the music.

Even if people are purposely making jackass comments, they haven't been doing a fantastic job of it so far. I've seen much better.

It's working, but I don't know to what ends anymore. On the one, it's nice to see pictures of people who contribute, but on the Two, it's really mean-spirited. And I'm mean spirited enough in real life; I don't need to me mean-spirited under an assumed name too. I called Maura a fool for cryin' out loud (SORRY) so the anonimity of it all kind of ruins what you already know to be true -- be it accurate or otherwise (I'm REALLY SORRY).

Maybe a "This is your FT Neighbor [Neighbour]!" and then have a person with a link to their site?

"especially from these particular corners where rudeness is not quiescent and actually quite vigorous," sez Keith, and I can only assume he means, at least in part, me. I tend side with Tom Lehrer on this one -- No reason to hate groups when there are enough reasons to hate people individually (paraphrase from "National Brotherhood Week"). I dunno. Reading some of those made me sick to my stomach though.

As far as Mr. Yonderboy, the FT folks aren't the ones who've been through the ugliest lampooning on AICON. And mainly, it has been women who've been getting the shittiest comments. I suggest getting rid of the anonymity because people's nastiest aspects get unleashed when they don't feel bound by social convention. If you knew that you would be < I>judged by others on your words, would you spew some of that ugly shit?

Mark might never visit bitchcakes again (his loss!) but if I was Nadia, I'd spend about an hour getting trashed and cursing, and then never visit FT again. And if I was just stumbling on FT for the first time, and saw something like that, I might not visit FT again either. Also, there seem to be a healthy mix of decent, thoughtful, responses in the mix (some of which were actually fairly spot on) -- so I don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Mark: Considering I've never actually visted Pitchfork in my life, I'm, um, hurt...

About all this: I generally believe most of the comments are not meant in any way to be purely venomous, at ALL. They're merely misguided and I took great offense at the way a girl who is attractive, ethnic, and dressed up got trashed for no apparent reason. A good portion of the comments seem purely based on her race, and the entire rest of them are based purely on the fact that she's a cute female and therefore a retarded idiot with no opinions or abilities to choose her own style of music.

If I was Nadia, which I am not, I wouldn't "never visit FT again", because it's hardly her fault that Tom and the rest of his (mostly) talented staff have a readership of nitwits - and yes, I'm being harsh because let's face it: take a good look through AICON's archives. EVERY SINGLE FEMALE gets at least 50% comments on appearance (ie not "She appears to be a Britney Spears fan" but rather "She appears to be someone I wanna bang, get me her number"), and the men are not subjected to this at all. I'll be honest, it's really just a reflection of life but it's really, really fucking annoying and the fact of the matter is, the people here, both posters and people I've spoken with, who see the LEAST big deal of this are all of the male persuasion. Wake up one day as an attractive female - or worse, an attractive female with an easily spotted ethnic background - and spend a day being treated like shit and being met with surprise when you know how to do the simplest things, and then come back and tell me that any of my slightly-tongue-in-cheek comments are "terrifying".

You get used to it, but you shouldn't have to and I pitied Nadia because if that'd happened to ME, I'd feel like shit. Not because I was voted "FOOL" - let's face it, she's being judged by a panel of people who are fools in and of themselves, and I don't mean that in a negative light because sometimes being a fool is good - but because of the reasoning behind the judgement.

I would like ONE PERSON who responded re: Nadia in any of the ways I blasted on my site to explain to me any of the following:

1. What's so bad about sororities that makes them inherently waste lands of music? Note: I was never in a sorority nor did I want to be, so it's not a personal vendetta.

2. What about dressing up made this woman a fool?

3. What about being attractive in a more "conventional" way makes you fodder for "her boyfriend picks her music" comments?

It's inherently sexism, and it is disgusting. I do enjoy AICON, even this weeks because I enjoy the psychology of anonymous tossers. I try to figure out why people say the things they do. But I do have to also point out the only reason I started sending in an answer week after week was because I was dismayed at the amount of "Phwoar, she's hot" comments appearing while the guys seemed to be given half a chance.

End of rant.

Speaking as AICON's previous victim -- and a guy -- frankly, I'm on the side of Ally et al on this one. I mentioned this to her in a random mail, but I think the point needs to be made -- I have, in fact, *not once* posted to AICON. Not because I don't enjoy AICON in general (why else would I have submitted the picture?), but because I have no idea where a random dig at someone for the heck of it would turn out to be the wrong thing to say, or more accurate would be something that despite the best of my intentions would turn out sounding wrong somehow. If I knew somebody and their sense of humor, then I'd know how to approach things -- or least know what not to say. ;-)

This said -- Mark noted that the comments on my hair and all that were more mean-spirited. They were? I really wasn't all that upset, I was more amused overall (Yo La Tengo -- give me a friggin' break, my house is blessedly free of such nonsense -- meanwhile, Def Leppard got *good* on _Pyromania_, thanks!). About all I would note is that it was definitely not a ponytail, which would be a sign of Satan. It was simply long wet hair, having stepped out of the shower about twenty minutes previous. ;-)

By which I indicate that I'm guessing more than a few comments were/are likely to amuse and bemuse her more than anything else. I'm not her, though -- which is perhaps the point.

AICON is good, because it has provoked this discussion. Honestly, I'm surprised at people being surprised that people they assumed were 'enlightened' can come out with such crap. The article should be kept purely for sociological reasons; it tends to say a lot more about the people who reply than the 'victims'. Perhaps the anonymity should be dropped, though, so we can see where everyone stands.

Hello, I didn't post to this AICON, but I have before. I don't know if these ideas are correct, and in great part they are not even my own opinions, but my interpretations of what is going on. In other words: Nadia, if you're reading this, don't be offended.

>1. What's so bad about sororities that makes them inherently waste >lands of music? Ever visited a sorority or fraternity house? I don't think it's just sororities. She does have the look of a prom/formal dance type event (which is probably the same look as the New York clubbing scene Ally refers to, different backgrounds at work here - I think this might account for a lot of the problem), so assuming she's in the Greek scene at college isn't bad. The Greek system however, is. Both fraternities and sororities tend to be extremely exlcusive and clique filled environments full of people very conscious of social status. Conformity and social heirarchy are everything. So the implication is that she would like what would improve her status in her group. Things such as liking what her popular boyfriend likes in order to make him happy and keep herself cool. She doesn't really have any musical taste and is just an empty shell filled by what other people think. If it helps, and you know the show, think of the fashion club on Daria. To tell the truth, the first thing I thought of when I saw Nadia's picture was the Asian girl in that club, and I would have been very wrong in my guess.

> 2. What about dressing up made this woman a fool? It could be seen as some of the following - Willingness to conform. unthinking acceptance of "conventional" beauty standards. Denial of true personality in order to fit accepted standards of others. Again, not necessarily a sexist assumption. The same might be said of a man in a suit. What does anyone think the AICON response would be if a guy was pictured in a three-piece formal suit? I'd bet that Wire's Mr. Suit gets quoted more than once.

> 3. What about being attractive in a more "conventional" way makes > you fodder for "her boyfriend picks her music" comments? I gave a partial interpretation of why someone might think this above but going along with convention can suggest a deferential attitude and therefore boyfriend can decide. She can't control her facial feature, race and body type, but she can control what she wears, her hairstyle, and her makeup. All the chosen attributes she are very safe and conventional for both her peer group and overall society.

Lastly, in a sort of defense of the hitting on girls type comments. I have made one of those comments. The girl about which I wrote was nowhere near as good looking (In my opinion.) as Nadia. I simply thought this person was very cool and would be someone I would like to hang out with - which, incidentally, is the only reason I ever ask girls out and the reason Ally said she asked about her. The remark was made in what I thought was the most light-hearted and silly manner possible. I mean, I'm anonymously pseudo-hitting on an anonymous girl over a website run by someone I barely know. It doesn't get much more absurd than that. I resent Ally's assumption that guys are acting strictly out of ogling bodies and not out of guessing a personality and I find THAT sexist and disgusting. Her comment about reactions to her tongue-in-cheek comments interesting in light of how deathly serious she took the comments on the original AICON. If what I did made me a sexist, then, very well, I'm an evil sexist pig. oink. oink.

Steve

The original point of AICON was twofold:

i) to be funny.

ii) to find out the assumptions people made about other people from photographs. In this case by focussing on one particular thing about them i.e. music taste.

As it turns out (ii) has had unintended consequences, as in: some people have been contributing remarks which - perhaps unintentionally - have gone too far. I actually noticed this for the first time a couple of weeks ago, when I had to edit half the comments on Nadine's picture which had no musical connection at all.

AICON, like every other part of the site, has its own readership and loyalists - most of the regular respondents don't post here, for example. In some ways it's been a victim of its own popularity.

The trend towards meaner comments has been building for a week or so but it's been there pretty much from the start: I think the anonymity is useful in that regard, as it allows for truer responses. I'd rather drop the feature than drop the anonymity, I think. One possible solution is to make it an occasional thing - a ten-week run every now and then so the audience doesn't get as irresponsible so quickly? Another solution is to edit out more of the non-musical comments, though sometimes those are very funny.

Responses to individuals, and more points:

On a general level I think it depends who is coming to the site. IHM had waves of really dumb mail when certain sites linked to it, and a similar thing has happened now AICON has got big: the 'FT audience' and the 'AICON audience' are two separate entities, increasingly. But somebody reading FT will not know this.

I think with AICON initially it was basically music-centric, and then a couple of very funny and self-consciously absurd 'extended' replies showed up with respondents filling in a lot of blanks, which was unexpected and worked well. But that's now become the main thrust of a lot of replies - a 'tell a little story about this person' style of answer.

Mark has a point in that all the people whose pictures are now running sent them in knowing what might happen. I personally as editor do not post to AICON, except if it's somebody I know well like Ned and I think I've got a funny joke (and even then I sent it to him first). BUT that does not change the offensiveness (or not) of the responses. I should also point out that because of the backlog a lot of people coming up now - the women especially - sent their photos in five or six weeks ago.

There is a thin line between an AICON which recognises the inherent absurdity of the exercise - judging someone on a photo - and an AICON which becomes an excuse for people to talk shit. My fear is a feature which kicked off as a way of showing up the absurdity of musical or social stereotypes has become a way of reinforcing them.

Keith - the problem is the modular nature of the site. It's sad but true that the enthusiastic parts get less attention than the 'rude' parts - although the rude parts nearly always are there for a reason.

Nicole - I've kept the "I would bang her" comments in because I thought they were self-evidently sad. I may change this policy. Otherwise I agree with what you're saying. The Maria week is an effective contrast here - drooling and fawning responses to someone who looks like she might be into indie music as opposed to the reception Nadia (who looks more 'pop' got).

DG - sums up the pro-AICON case, thanks. One thing I'm thinking of doing is making a feedback page like this regular, so that the assumptions that come up can be debated a bit more fully (eg. the whole smart dressing thing)

Steve - I find your remarks in no.s 2 and 3 of your post puzzling, especialy at a time when 'non-conformist' dress is more marketed, packaged and targetted than any before. If a man sent in a picture in a formal suit I'd think it was, in context, the least conformist thing to do. Similarly both Nadia this week and Nadine's a fortnight ago's pictures surprised me, enough in my book to make them cool. I'm not denying that your suggestions are what a lot of people still think about sororities and smart dress but it's still a bit depressing.

I'm still not sure what to do. Sorry for rambling.

What I found strange about the responses was the fact that the dressing up was so commented on. I didn't write about Nadia because she was dressed up. We all dress up from time to time for one reason or another, and are probably more likely to have our photo taken, but it says devastatingly little about either one's musical tastes or one's character, whichever you plan to lampoon.

As Tom pointed out, the whole point of AICON is to show what assumptions people make based on looks. I think it's been pretty successful in demonstrating this.

Making more assumptions, I'd guess the Freaky Trigger (and AICON) readerships to be generally straight men. If it was the other way around, maybe there'd be more "He looks hot!" or "He's ugly!" comments about the men that are featured.

The playground spirit of AICON has been brewing since people started making up the stories about the "contestants". Sadly, it seems like there's been quite a bit of encouragement taking place (whether explicit or not) to make comments like these, and it was always going to lead to excessive comments in the end.

The main problem (which was pretty obvious from the beginning of last week, as Tom mentioned to me on AIM) was that there was very little to comment on in that photo apart from personal appearance. Ned had CDs behind him. The girl that was dressed up was, well, dressed up (and why was it OK to comment on her dress?). Brian had his guitar and bow. The guy from that Wolf-something website (sorry, I forgot the name) had a guitar, didn't he? Things like that make it easier to make guesses (whether accurate or not) about the contestant. I think you'd be hard pressed to come up with 10 unique identifying features about Nadia, even including the facts that she's female, Asian and wearing a dress. I think in most cases people weren't trying to be racist or sexist but trying to think of something to say on a pretty difficult AICON "victim".

I don't personally contribute to AICON because I don't feel I have anything interesting or accurate to say about most of the people. As an outsider I'm surprised that people *are* surprised about the outcome this week.

Right. Decided what I'm going to do now.

i) limited anonymity. No e-mail addresses or full names or anything like that but first name identification, so regulars can be identified and usually gender is identified too (since that seems an important determinant).

ii) stricter editing. Looking at the current one there is at least one comment that should definitely have gone, and I apologise - cutting and pasting monotony gets the better of judgement sometimes.

iii) regular forum discussions, a la Pop-Eye.

Ignoring the whole stereotype issue, why would anyone think that a Freaky Trigger reader that submitted a photo would listen to matchbox 20 or any radio alt/rock stuff? Matchbox 20, Limp Bizkit, Creed etc. are disliked by both the indie and pop crowd ( ie. the majority of FT's readership, yes? )?

I would argue that a surprising number of the "pop" crowd DO actually listen to Matchbox 20, Limp Bizkit, Creed, etc, otherwise their album sales wouldn't be nearly as good.

Likewise with the "indie" crowd, although good luck getting any of them to admit it. :)

As far as the "vacuous sorority girl"-style comments made this week: it doesn't say much for your own individuality/originality when you make the exact same joke referencing the same bands as four other people.

Tom:A fine point regarding Mr.Suit, but, judging by the comments here and on the AICON page, you seem to be the only one actually putting this much thought into it. You're judging in the context of FT and most people aren't. By your own admission, you didn't agree with this week's results, and I was trying to guess the responses of the group in general not neccessarily you. In regard to frat/sororities, those weren't really my opinions, I had hoped to make that clear. I had friends from High School join fraternities and they remained their own person, so I know they aren't all clone factories. However, my own experiences with the fraternities here at Virginia are actually much worse than what I described. The Greek societies here are among the most disgusting in America. One of them has a part of their house called "The Rape Room" for Christ's sake. Obviously sickening as that is it makes me dislike the sororities as well because the name is widely known, I heard about it my first week here without even going to any of the fraternities, and still the sorority girls go there. They know damn well what goes on and what could happen to them, but the social cachet of the place is so great that they still come. I don't know which group disturbs and saddens me more, really.

Mitch: You make a good point about the tastes of a FT reader, but many people ignore that context and treat the pictures as pictures of random people. I actually think that is more in the spirit of the thing in that it goes just by the picture, not factoring in where it is.

Greg: Agreed about the in-picture context. The most gratuitous responses always come when there is nothing else to comment about than looks regardless of the sex of the person. The girl who posed in front of her keyboard, I believe, got the most thoughtful replies of any of the women, who so far have been pretty contextless otherwise.

Also, maybe it's my own cynical low expectations of humanity, but I really wouldn't have offended if anyone had said anything that has been posted this week or before in AICON about me because the people aren't responding about the real me, they're writing about what they think of one picture that happens to be me at a certain time. They're making vast absurd assumptions based on a miniscule level of information. It's inherently stupid and inaccurate, partially due to the limited data and partially due to people being assholes all around in responding (in other words, I don't think the people who made the Mail Order Bride comment, etc. actually believe it, it was an attept to be shocking, unique, and incendiary. It was flamebait. Ally bit it, and then she put out some flamebait of her own and it's been bitten as well.) Hell, if I do ever submit a picture I'll dress up as something I'm completely not, just to screw with the whole process. Speaking as a person who has had chronically low self esteem for damn near forever, so I know the situation, if one is so fragile as to let something like this insult you that much, then the nature of the opinions expressed is probably among the least of your worries. That last statement may sound harsh, but it comes from personal experience and it was meant in the best interest of all sensitive people everywhere.

Of COURSE a comment like "mail-order bride" is meant as flamebait - I have a hard time believing someone would send that in without meaning it as a ....actually, now that I think about it, that one's a little too ridiculous, now I'm kind of curious as to the person who wrote it, whether the guise of anonymity brought out true feelings or if they were just being a tosser. I didn't even think about that particular comment; too obvious for me, struck me as an extremely bad joke. Now you've gone and done it, I'm thinking about that far more than the rest of it.

Anyhow, this business about the clothing: I will say that I understand that the post was not necessarily from your viewpoint but rather from a possible viewpoint, which I respect. But I feel that everyone here should respect the fact that I think that is the stupidest viewpoint I've ever heard of (note: not really). First of all, as Tom has already pointed out: isn't it being NON-conformist in this place to not look indie? Every bloody picture is indie, and now we have a girl who looks pop and she is the conformist one. THings that make you go hmmmm....

And yes, I did have a problem with people commenting soley on Nadine's clothing, as well. Tom can attest to this - my annoyance over AICON (and, btw, if you took my post as "deathly serious" then you either need to get to know me better - feel free to email me, you seem nice enough - or you need a humor injection, stat, because it was meant to be sarcastic and nasty but NOT without humor to get the point across) has been a long growing thing. I never posted to it until the comments about the women got a bit more persistant, and so I said, "Fuck this, I'm sending in an email ranking a guy and asking for HIS number." I have been doing this pretty much every week since then. The problem is, the past few week's really brought it to a bit of a head because there's absolutely no reason for sexist rubbish like "She listens to whatever her boyfriend tells her to" to go anywhere, and it disturbs me that these are the sort of things people will say publically - as long as they have the guise of an anonymous mask, of course.

I told Nadia in an email tonight that if she wants to hear my attitude about this whole stupid, silly thing, she should put on Little Baby Nothing by the Manics and have a good laugh. And it is true. Most men purely do not understand this fact of life. They do not know what it feels like for a girl. If you'd like to take that as reverse sexist, go right on ahead. I really don't mind one bit - but if you're going to call me sexist for saying it, please shoot me a note explaining to me what I have to go through every day to prove it to me, that I am sexist for my assumption.

Oh, and I'd like to take this public opportunity to thank Tom muchly for this blessed opportunity - in the past 24 hours, I have half as many hits as I have for the past week. Fantastic, I knew this lot was good for something ;)

As for the fate of AICON, I LIKE the feature. As I said, interesting for those of us who have done any study in psychology. I like the idea of losing anonymity, but of course everyone will behave now and it'll become dreadfully dull. Alas.

this week, and with quite a lot of the female pics, there just isn't enough to go on to make any sort of even semi-reasonable guess, so people feel forced to rely on the simplest of stereotypes. *everyone* wears formal clothes at some point in their lives, so judgements about that were pretty bloody pointless.

reading this week's amicon i was wondering what proportion of cools to fools were awarded, and there are more of the latter - in general people are using the site as an excuse to be offensive, jokingly or not. a trial solution could be to insist that all photos are full- length and with some sort of prop [guitar etc] so there'd be obvious alternatives to a 'phwoar'-type response, but otherwise some sort of login/ID system is needed. maybe email addresses rather than names - potentially still anonymous, but if the photo'd person is feeling hard done by they can vent.

anyone know nadia's reaction?

AICON, I forgot about these.
Wheres that momus picture.

This angry catgirl has narrow, gray eyes. She has long, straight purple hair with a blue patch in front, worn in a wild style. Her skin is white, and she has purple fur with blue streaks on her ears and tail. She has a very feminine build. Her ears are close-set. She usually wears an elaborate, dignified dress fit for royalty. Her questing eyes seem to pierce right through you.

This bubbly catgirl has deep-set, green eyes. She has neck-length, wavy, brown hair worn in a wild style. Her fur is brown with orange patches all over her body. She has an athletic figure. Her tufted ears are downturned and close-set, and her tail is plume-like and carried with a curve. Her fashion preferences are best described as "southern belle." When someone is suffering, she's usually the first one to help.

This confident catgirl has slitted, brown eyes. She has short, straight red hair with a brown patch in front, worn in a businesslike style. Her fur is red with brown coloration on her ears and tail. She has an amazonian figure. Her tail is long, thin and carried with a curve. Her fashion preferences are best described as "adventurer." When she moves, it's almost like she's a ghost.

This feral catgirl has deep-set, blue eyes. She has short, thick, straight orange hair with a red patch in front, worn in a weird style. Her skin is pale, and she has orange fur with red stripes on her ears and tail. She has a lithe build. Her ears are perky and pointed, and her tail is brush-like and carried with a curve. She usually wears simple leathers. She walks in a very sensual manner.

This laid-back catgirl has narrow, yellow eyes. She has neck-length, straight black hair with yellow bangs in front, worn in a simple style. Her fur is black with yellow coloration on her ears, tail, forearms, and forelegs. She has a voluptuous figure. Her tufted ears are droopy, pointed and close-set, and her tail is short, tapering and carried with a curve. Her fashion preferences are best described as "gypsy princess." When someone is suffering, she's usually the first one to help.

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You just hatin, ya pasta ass muthafucka -snap!- miaouuuww?

That's me playa hatah extreme.

Forget that nigga, girlfriend, cats be jealous!

Im not sure cam3lt03 is appropriate for those of us at work.