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why is it that all of a sudden every one wants to be punk; all of a sudden it seems that if you buy some blink 182 and a pair of converse chuck taylors youre punk; WHY!!!!!!!!????

― travis mathis, Sunday, 10 October 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex in NYC, this is a TERRIBLE psuedonym you've cooked up here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 October 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

FOR THE LAST TIME, I ONLY POST UNDER MY OWN NAME! I DON'T NEED TO COOK UP SOME CRAFTY PSEUDONYM IN ORDER TO BROADCAST MY MUCH MALIGNED OPIONS

And for what it's worth, Travis, I agree....but the fact that you have the word "bizkit" in your e-mail address suggests that you could very well be a slackjawed zinjanthropus, so wise-up.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 10 October 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

opinions

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 10 October 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Travis, d/l "All the Young Punks (New Boots and Contracts)". By the Clash.

― paulhw (paulhw), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

the times they are a changin

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

As Jadakiss verses go I'm glad that one was left on the cutting room floor

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Sunday, 10 October 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

why is it that all of a sudden every one wants to be punk; all of a sudden it seems that if you buy some blink 182 and a pair of converse chuck taylors youre punk; WHY!!!!!!!!????

So you're, let me guess here, sixteen?

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Sunday, 10 October 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

why is it that all of a sudden every one wants to be punk

I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's been ten years since Dookie. TEN YEARS since a "punk" album sold to kiddies in the kajillions. Anybody who's pissed off at the mainstream appropriation of punk should realize that their "cutting edge" couldn't slice butter for quite some time now. Get a new hair cut. Wise up. Move on. Fucking get into John Zorn or something if you're worried that people can't tell you're a badass, Fonzie. Sorry.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 10 October 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

blink 182? Man, I'd forgotten about those dinosaurs.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 11 October 2004 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Though it's been even longer since the Cure sold goth to kiddies, I'm surprised more people aren't bitching about the increase in eyeliner, moodiness and such-and-such.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 11 October 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

what does "bizkit" mean?

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 11 October 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

It is what happens when yr Kit-Kat bar gets purple-nurpled

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 11 October 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

People would be a lot happier if they would learn not to attach sacred emotions and values to fashion accessories and guitar tones. History has proven time and time again these are commodities. "It used to be that only COOL people ate falafel! Grr!"

Bizkit is the name of Fred Durst's pet pooch. Bow wow.

http://www.limpbizkitfan.ru/haha/bizkit.jpg

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 11 October 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

what does "purple-nurpled" mean and what does "bizkit" mean?

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 11 October 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

being purple-nurpled means being Walt Whitmanned

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 11 October 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

what happened to walt whitman?

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 11 October 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

and what does "purple-nurpled" mean and what does "bizkit" mean?

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 11 October 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

RJG, a definition, for you:

Definition Of Limp Bizkit

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 11 October 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://douglas.min.net/essay/newessay.jpg

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 11 October 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Anybody who's pissed off at the mainstream appropriation of punk should realize that their "cutting edge" couldn't slice butter for quite some time now.

Put this on a t-shirt, and I'll buy it from you. No one over 21 gives a shit for the punk/not-punk debate.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 11 October 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks, manthony. it is as funny, as I had expected it would be.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 11 October 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a good essay, Curtis.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 11 October 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha that essay is heat "thanks a lot walt whitman."

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 11 October 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Fred Durst announced Mike Smiths departure from the band in an exclusive interview with the armpit.net

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 11 October 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

What the hell is that site? It seems to be only about Fred Durst and the army. Is Durst a recruiting sargeant too?

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 11 October 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"Please please see me"

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 October 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

whoops "PETER please see me"
That's less funny.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 October 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

this is an annoying post.

― tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Monday, 11 October 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

For some reason punk is the only trendy pop music genre of the last 30 years to fully delude itself that it is somehow above or outside the trendiness and superficiality that accompanies just about all pop culture.

― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 11 October 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

This is annoying me for some reason. Well, not as much as it used to. I've tried to tell my friends that that's not what punk is, but their still in love with Good Charolette and want to be like Avirl L.

― Aja (aja), Monday, 11 October 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

But, I don't really know how to explain punk correctly.

― Aja (aja), Monday, 11 October 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Avirl L sounds VERY punk.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 October 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

well, as much as that cat I tried to pet on the sairs today

― Aja (aja), Monday, 11 October 2004 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

But, I don't really know how to explain punk correctly.
-- Aja (AsiaKitty200...), October 11th, 2004.

That sums it up.

― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 11 October 2004 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah.

could you tell me what it is?

― Aja (aja), Monday, 11 October 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"Why do people let you down?
Why do people break your heart?
Why did my life
Just fall apart?"

[A small unspecified prize to the first person who can tell me where those lyrics come from.... no surprise if name of the winning entrant begins with "M" and rhymes with "ark Grout"].

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I said it on another thread, but I'll say it again here: Not only is wearing bondage trousers and a mohawk (or ________ [insert your favorite "punk" tonsorial/sartorial trapping here]) pathetic and sad in 2004, it was pathetic and sad in 1994....and to be honest, it was getting pretty tired already in 1984.

Converse's line of Chuck Taylor sneakers debuted in 1923......rather earlier than the hotly-debated birth of Punk Rock.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

if punk/not punk is an issue only for under-21s, does that mean it's an issue grown-ups have solved i.e. "we know what the diff is, pipsqueak" or does it mean grown-ups consider the question a false choice, don't care? personally i don't think it's any lamer to consider this than whether or not something "rocks" or is "metal". it's funny how many styles (like mohawks, bondage trousers, etc) have clung stubbornly onto punk, unlike rock, which took long recursive detours thru smart trousers, leather trousers, ripped trousers, flannel.. altho maybe the chuck taylor thing marks a kind of shift. Chucks weren't very punk in my high school, they were more "funky." punks wore combat boots or DMs.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Chucks weren't very punk in my high school, they were more "funky." punks wore combat boots or DMs.

OTM, actually.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"if punk/not punk is an issue only for under-21s, does that mean it's an issue grown-ups have solved i.e. "we know what the diff is, pipsqueak" or does it mean grown-ups consider the question a false choice, don't care?"

It means that those of us who were there know that punk died in 1979.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember Debbie Gibon and Tiffany running around in Chuck Taylor's back in 1986, and no one ever accused them of being "punk" (although Debbie later did record a cover of "I Want to Destroy You" by the Soft Boys with the Circle Jerks).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Debbie Gibbon!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Samantha Ox!

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

whoops. Freudian, given her voice.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

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