Pig Destroyer, _Terrifyer_ -- metal-inclined folk, what say you?

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Got a copy of this, plus DVD, for review, and while I came in with no preconceptions, goddamn it's pretty good. These guys really can come up with some perfect riffs, all credit to Scott Hull. Have yet to hear the DVD so I'm wondering what the hell that will be all about. (Matt H. -- I'd recommend this to you if you prefer higher-pitched scream-shout singing over the Cookie Monster approach you've said isn't your thing.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't heard this album, but Prowler In The Yard is an alltime classic. Pig Destroyer write really memorable riffs, you're right. That and the intensely visceral nature of their music makes them stand out from the rest of the grind/yell/thrash/whatever crew.

Helios Creed (orion), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I'll have to hear that earlier album, then. Yeah, this one is just...it's REALLY great, in the sense of "I will actually relisten to this album here soon" greatness. It's like they know implicitly that the trick to making speed work is to make it *stick*, so therefore get those riffs perfect and get them into a listener's brain. All the press guff that came with the album made me suspicious but now I believe.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, if you can would you care to compare & contrast Pig Destroyer with Agoraphobic Nosebleed, one of Hull's other projects? I love the latter's "Altered States of America" 3" CD but can hardly ever bear to listen to it. 100 songs in about 20 minutes, spewing koans of omnidirectional hatred all over my ears. I find the song "Neural Linguistic Programming" an apt disclaimer for the album. In it's entirety:
"With every song on this CD
you will feel more and more compelled
to lose faith in yourself
and in everything around you"

max davenport (axehead), Monday, 11 October 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, I do indeed have that AN CD and love its utter insanity. Thanks for noting the connection, I somehow missed that before -- so I guess Hull uses AN to go bugfuck crazy and PD to focus the aggression. The former is just sheer flailing NOISENOISENOISE ARRGGH while the latter is "Here's your noise AND YOU"LL REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT HIT YOU and will be humming it to yourself like any pop hit."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 October 2004 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

So Pig Destroyer and Lamb of God are the best two metal acts going right? That comment comes from not hearing much in the way of decent, newer grind/thrash/death metal lately. Other than Between The Buried And Me, which I quite liked. Must get my hands on some PD and soon.

piers (piers), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Search the archives, bozos - I've been praising this band since I got here!!

Seriously, though, great band. Piers pretty right on about Lamb of God and all Hull-related projects being the cream of the crop, though Otep rules too

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Search the archives, bozos - I've been praising this band since I got here!!

Yeah, but no thread with them in the title, so.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

This has been mentioned in the Rolling Metal Thread....

I really like the album...it's not just the usual grind stuff, it has plenty of great thrash metal breakdowns, plus plenty of fun shock rock shtick. The dvd is pretty cool, with a much more slowed-down, slow-burning feel to the music.

Best line on the album: "The tape across your mouth says more than your words ever could."

abegrand, Monday, 11 October 2004 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)

The CD is okay. They're pretty generic in the gratuitous ugliness sense (i.e. -- nothing Die Kreuzen and Void etc. didn't do better to fucking decades ago), seems to me, but in a not entirely unlistenable way -- right, the riffs and shrieks are way catchier than most people doing this kinda shit. I notice in the liner notes that they sample Popul Vuh, Luc Ferrari, and other weird folks. Does anybody have any idea what songs they do this in (I'm guessing in the long "Natasha" muzak suite -- why is that a DVD Audio, though? Seems really odd to make me go into another room and play it over my TV. What the fuck?)

In other news, Pig Destroyer and Lamb of God are hardly "the two best metal acts going" right now. Not even close. See below, for starters:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0438/eddy.php

chuck, Monday, 11 October 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they did the DVD audio thing because it's set up for 5:1 stereo and they want to give you an immersive audio experience or something with all the woodland chirps and whatever. I actually was hoping for a full on dramatization of the short story, sorta like what Queensryche was trying for on Operation: Mindcrime.

Were Die Kreuzen ever quite that high-speed? Admittedly only saw them once.

Not sure about those samples either. There's the one dialogue moment on the main disc that I was wondering about, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Die Kreuzen's high speed stuff was pre-*October File*: self-titled debut album, plus an earlier EP or two (the latter of which I haven't heard for years.)

Way more Pig Destroyer, Lamb of God, and other (better and worse) '04 metal stuff here, by the way:

Rolling 2004 Metal Thread

chuck, Monday, 11 October 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Noted for reference (now that I'm on Relapse's promo list I figure I'd better keep more in touch).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Don Allred on Pig Destroyer on that other thread, by the way:

------------

guys, I just listened to Pig Destroyer (CD only, cos I'm the Last Man Without A DVD Player). Like the plate glass intro, and 6-12:theWithfinder remonstrates, the bitch keeps laughing and crying at once, later, there's a glass drill after Comets On Fire in a blender, etc.),then 16 (beat lands, skips, lands, skips) maybe it's 18 with the distressed chord that keeps righting itself, then slipping again, 21's like a compacted track off the new Mastodon, all these mashed up sectionettes. Rest is like GW's debating last night, emphasizing the same "points" over and over and over. Totally generic, only good if you really really really are such a fan of this particular clutch of sounds that you really really really need to spend money on 'em one more time.(Or get it for free, I spoze, although I *did*, adn still feel a bit ripped off: moments of MY LIFE spent listening to this shit, or the shit in between the good bits, as usual in life. Didn't need to *listen* for that to happen, in other words.)
-- Don (dmxz...), October 1st, 2004.

chuck, Monday, 11 October 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Heheh. Now Don is a passionate man.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 October 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

With the exception of Mastodon, I've hated everything I've heard from that Eddytor's Dozen list, Chuck.

I'm loving the Pig Destroyer album. My favorite song is "Carrion Fairy," which Hull better hope Slayer's lawyers never hear. That crazy screaming fight (or whatever the dialogue break is) is amazing, too. I can't figure out what's going on with it - it sounds like a guy screaming and a girl crying, but then I think I hear laughter...? Very unnerving.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 11 October 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe I'll check out Mastodon. It would be nice to find some new metal that I can love, but I've been underwhelmed by the last two records I've tried (Pelican and Lamb of God). I've heard tunes on the radio by both, and they sound good enough for a song but make for boring records.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 11 October 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)


why is that a DVD Audio, though? Seems really odd to make me go into another room and play it over my TV. What the fuck?

If your CD player is somewhat less than four years old or a high end model, it will play the DVD just like a regular CD. You just hit
"Go" twice, once to start reading it, the second time to get off the menu and launch the stereo mix of it.

The record company did waste the format. The DVD cut is mixed in stereo and home movie theatre "surround" sound. The muddiness of Pig Destroyer's sound, however, makes this a trivial distinction.

In other news, Pig Destroyer and Lamb of God are hardly "the two best metal acts going" right now. Not even close.

Yep, agreed. Lamb of God is true guitar mag and urban slum metal tabloid/zine features material.

I was happy to find a new reissue of the Edgar Broughton Band's "Wasa Wasa" yesterday. It's about the toughest sounding one in the catalog, fuzzy thug rock and riff, psychedelic and abrasive. Hawkwind with shorter songs and better vocals which makes it, hmmmm, like a heavier, louder combination of The Deviants' "Ptoof" and third records.

George Smith, Monday, 11 October 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

sample Popul Vuh, Luc Ferrari, and other weird folks.

Yeah, probably. I had Popul Vuh stuff when I was 25, in grad school and of the stupid mind that I ought to put ambient noise, music concrete and industrial soundtracks on when my soon-to-be wife would come over for the evening. It made her tense and inevitably scotched all good will and amore.

And there's some of that to "Natasha" although Pig Destroyer back off on the noise in favor of New Agey water-dripping and whispering sounds a bit.

George Smith, Monday, 11 October 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only heard Prowler In The Yard but they need a BASSIST. Discordance Axis could get away with this, but PD need a little low end to vary things up a bit. I'm not a huge gindcore fan, but I'd take that 3" Agoraphobic Nosebleed or the last Discordance Axis over Prowler, easy. Is the new one really all that different?

original bgm, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't listened to Prowler in a long time, but it seems to me, listening to this one, that they've stepped their game up quite a bit. There's definitely no need for bass this time out; the guitars fill up all available space. (They're overdubbed, which helps a lot.)

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"prowler in the yard" didn't last 3 days on my hard drive. i'll give this one a shot, but i'm starting to think my taste in metal diverges wildly from you guys. the lair of the minotaur album on southern lord? that is what i'm feeling.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Funny, I just got a promo mail from Southern Lord this morning. COINCEDENCE?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Haven't gotten the Lair disc yet, but I did get an e-mail today announcing that Earth have signed with SL and will be recording a new album in January, as a guitar-drums duo.

That's right; NEW EARTH MATERIAL IN 2005.

Fuck yeah.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"prowler in the yard" didn't last 3 days on my hard drive. i'll give this one a shot, but i'm starting to think my taste in metal diverges wildly from you guys.

Maybe not. This is a pretty narrow slice of tastes. Let's see, the new Grave CD may be worth a listen if you can find a lender or a used. There's a seven minute cover of St. Vitus' "Burial at Sea" on it which redeems a lot of the more ISO 9000 Swede grind that's much of it. The first cut on it is good, too.

"Burial at Sea" is also on Goatsnake's "Trampled Under Hoof." So, that must make it the stoner doom anthem for the end of summer and fall.

Lessee, in July, Pigmy Love Circus' "Power of Beef" finally got national distribution after -- seemingly two years. It's thumping, Bo Diddley-influenced tribal rock and metal which very few people do
anymore. You'll have to like the big, tattooedm very angry, thick-headed galoot soCal white-trash meth-lab and guns vibe. I had hoped for "I'm the King of L.A. (I Killed Axl Rose Today)" but they didn't re-record and it. They should have since a lot of the other tunes are that old.

Bathtub Shitter's "Lifetime Shitlist" remains in repeated play and will easily make my P&J ballot.

Majestic Rock reissued the Dirty Tricks catalog and the first album is equal to any of the first five Budgie records. Heavy doubled fuzz riffage and songs which has absolutely no hope of radio play in the early Seventies.

Harvey Milk's "The Kelly Sessions" is very slow-downed dropped tuning dirge-metal, even a little moreso than the release on Relapse last year. And Amplified Heat's "In for Sin" does the Texas heavy white-boy blooz trio thing, very into shouting noise, zzzzz, and crash-bang as opposed to tasty playing to satisfy the sissified purists and they're women & children.

George Smith, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

the lair of the minotaur album on southern lord? that is what i'm feeling.

PLEASE EXPLAIN.

original bgm, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

it is a good album. it is two guys from 7k dying rats and one guy from pelican or something. celtic frost/high on fire vibes.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok, listening to Terrifyer now and it's definitely a cut above Prowler In The Yard. It's still not over yet, but I remember that when they started playing around with drones and doomy riffs towards the end of the last one, I took interest. A little sad that those elements haven't popped up AT ALL yet. (and only 7 songs to go!)

Also: dramatic reduction in those Dave Lombardo drum pars! DAMN.

original bgm, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
yeah, i'm flip-flopping and saying i like pig destroyer. "terrifyer" is excellent - i don't really like the way the vocals are produced, but that applies to most modern us metal. the bathtub shitter album is better, but it and "terrifyer" and "the oath of black blood" are suiting my mood right now.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 4 November 2004 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, that Lair of the Minotaur album is GREAT. Sounds a little like they just pasted together a bunch of cool riffs, but hey, still works for me.

original bgm, Thursday, 4 November 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
what i love is how the album's edited. very few songs have a proper ending, and the next track just goes totally berzerker. and the interstitial bits don't even enter as lulls.

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Monday, 14 February 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

so natasha then

HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:19 (seventeen years ago)

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjPet3nxWzA

billstevejim, Thursday, 6 August 2009 01:51 (sixteen years ago)

this shit rules

billstevejim, Thursday, 6 August 2009 01:51 (sixteen years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.