i've heard very little and i'm not entirely sure what to believe. what are your thoughts, if any?
― you will be shot (you will be shot), Monday, 11 October 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)
GUERO für Klavier; PRESSION für Violincello solo; GRAN TORSO für Streichquartett
Beautifully abstract, all traditional instrumental sounds eschewed, the lessons of musique concrete making inroads into live performance with classical instrumentation. Huge dynamic range, very intimate, and the way the tiny sounds somehow hang together & move forward is pretty electrifying. Fans of early experimental industrial music might like this.
There are other recordings of these pieces available on disc, but all of these pieces lined up in a row makes a huge impact.
I've bought two discs containing more recent material: one was the ECM recording of Schwankungen Am Rand, the other was several pieces from the 80's. Sounds like typical modernism with traditional orchestral textures, and it didn't grab me.
I've seen Salut für Caldwell for two guitars in live performance; lots of precision strumming & plucked off kilter rhythms with fantastic attention to the overtones. It was fantastic, want to get a copy of that someday.
― (Jon L), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)
I would also recommend the releases on Col Legno as I think they have something like 6 cds of his work. My personal favorite is the Piano Pieces performed by Roland Keller with Ein Kinderspiel and Guero (obviously a big influence on me personally).
I think the most astounding thing about any of the pieces is that for being very theoretically driven music (he uses the term "renunciation" to describe the compositional process for some of the pieces from the 60s as in the renunciation of traditional performance, listening, etc.), they are all very listenable. The emphasis on texture and the timbres buried within an instument really yield up results that are actually beautiful at times as opposed to a pieces of music that feels like the result of an exercise.
― William Selman, Monday, 11 October 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)
the best way to cook fish is not to cook it
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― (Jon L), Monday, 11 October 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― William Selman, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Derridadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 09:52 (twenty-one years ago)
everyone needs to hear this...
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 4 November 2004 20:50 (twenty years ago)
― (Jon L), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:35 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 10:09 (twenty years ago)
Ok I've only heard operas when they've been shown on TV (and never stuck with it for long) but it sounds very different.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 5 November 2004 10:15 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 10:27 (twenty years ago)
― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:15 (twenty years ago)
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:36 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:08 (twenty years ago)
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:10 (twenty years ago)
― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:12 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:15 (twenty years ago)
What am I on about, it doesn't!
― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago)
Zender also has a good Feldman, the audience coughs & shuffles actually add something...
ok Lachenmann > Scelsi > Zender > Feldman, we only have two associations left to reach Skynryd.
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:21 (twenty years ago)
― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:22 (twenty years ago)
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago)
belated thanks for Julio for those CDRs of 'das madchen mit...' (which I simply passed on to Drew after buying a copy for myself, I was hoping he'd explain the methodology behind and perhaps list the samples of orchestral music in the liner notes -- and he did!) fragmented, delirious, ten thousand magnets
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)
I know there's a 2 CD set (ECM) of 'das madchen...', if i see it second hand I'd be tempted to snap it up...hope drew liked this.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)
― Dadrock, Meshach and Abednego (Dada), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)
― Dadrock, Meshach and Abednego (Dada), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)
Wednesday 13 April 20057.30pm, Jerwood Hall, LSO St Luke's, LondonBBC Radio 3 Invitation Concert
Helmut Lachenmann: Mouvement vor der ErstarrungHelmut Lachenmann: '...zwei Gefühle...', Musik mit LeonardoLuke Stoneham: Hip to Easter IslandStefano Gervasoni: AntiterraIancu Dumitrescu: Au delà de Movemur (II) world premiere
***Free tickets*** available from 020 8576 1227 or radio.ticket.unit@bbc.co.ukMore info
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)
― Dadrock, Meshach and Abednego (Dada), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)
― Dadrock, Meshach and Abednego (Dada), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)
lachenmann was there himself to speak the text for '...zwei Gefühle...'. I had not realized before how much sound ('sound poetry') the instrumentalists of the orchestra actually have to recite. the dumitrescu was new, its for 7-8 strings players and it's an extension of the work he's done with grillo. wasn't bad but felt underwhelmed at the end of it.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 14 April 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/filmandmusic/story/0,16373,1649608,00.html
And look at this bit:For Nono, every note had to have a political and structural purpose. It was a gruelling apprenticeship. "I never dared to write a trill," Lachenmann recalls. "If I wrote two notes together, Nono would say, 'This is a melodic cell', or he would demand, 'Where is your political standpoint?'"
And yet, his music has many thrills.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:35 (nineteen years ago)
aargh Niblock/lachenamnn for the ppl of landaaan town - just saw this, go if i don't.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)
gah damn my lame-ness.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 4 March 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)
― Tim R-J, Thursday, 1 March 2007 09:36 (eighteen years ago)
Have you stolen my CD collection or something? We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada) on Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:22 (2 years ago) no, this music is just insanely popular, that's all. (Jon L) on Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:30 (2 years ago)
― Tim R-J, Thursday, 1 March 2007 09:37 (eighteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 March 2007 09:47 (eighteen years ago)
― Tom D., Friday, 2 March 2007 11:25 (eighteen years ago)
Really nice article!
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 April 2008 19:50 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/music/la-et-helmut16apr16,1,7550763.story
& another
Transbay New Music Calendar is publishing a two part review of his lecture & concert at Mills last January, sadly not online
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:45 (seventeen years ago)
I like it except what 'he brings' isn't some vague 'sense of quest' -- that is the bare requirement -- but that he goes maybe further than most in trying to incorporate this stuff into a traditional frame. Like all the best experimental composers (Spahlinger, Schnebel, Bauckholt, etc) this is what makes them a more powerful proposition in that they're also harder to ignore.
His "just try to like it" is still funny...I'm going to say this every time someone boringly complains about classical music.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 April 2008 10:45 (seventeen years ago)
Helmut Lachenmann Weekend - Fun For All the Family!
― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 1 October 2010 09:28 (fifteen years ago)
Great! Will look to go along to the chamber music recital
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 October 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)
https://van-us.atavist.com/lachenmann
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 00:18 (nine years ago)
that was a fucking great interview. Lachenmann super OTM in numerous passages.
He has been on my to-do list for several years; i guess I was waiting for the right album to turn up in the used bin/on emusic/on some blog as the right entry port.
― look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 17:58 (nine years ago)
https://www.discogs.com/Helmut-Lachenmann-Gran-Torso-Guero-Pression/release/554364https://www.discogs.com/Helmut-Lachenmann-Das-Mädchen-Mit-Den-Schwefelhölzern/release/2278061
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 18:23 (nine years ago)