POX: '80s hair/glam metal tracks!

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(hopefully without repeating a single artist in your list)

Ratt "Slip of the Lip"
Dokken "It's Not Love"
Cinderella "Night Songs"
Lillian Axe "Misery Loves Company"
Motley Crue "Wild Side"
Dirty Looks "It's Not the Way You Rock"
Kix "She Dropped Me the Bomb"
Tesla "Rock Me to the Top"
Quiet Riot "Metal Health"
Poison "Talk Dirty to Me"

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 09:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay...it's tough to not repeat artists...

1.Motley Crue - "Looks that Kill"
2.Helix - "Rock You"
3. Faster Pussycat - "Don't Change That Song"
4. Lita Ford - "Gotta Let Go"
5. Cinderella - "Shake Me"
6. Ratt - "Round & Round"
7. Skid Row - "Slave to the Grind"
8. W.A.S.P. - "Animal (Fuck Like a Beast)"
9. Fastway - "Say What You Will" (does this count? They were Brits.)
10. Whitesnake - "Slow'n'Easy" (ditto)

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Motley Crue - "Live Wire"
2. WASP - "Love Machine"
3. Def Leppard - "High & Dry"
4. Dokken - "Into The Fire"
5. Kix - "Cold Shower"
6. Ratt - "Round & Round"
7. Ozzy - "Flying High Again"
8. Telsa - that cowboy song I can't remember the name of
9. Quiet Riot - "Mental Health"
10. Any Hanoi Rocks single

Man, I have'nt thought about Fastway in forever. Didn't they have another semi-popular single in addition to "Say What You Will" off of that black & white checkerboard album?

darin, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Poison - Life Loves A Tragedy
2. Junkyard - Slippin' Away
3. Skid Row - Monkey Business
4. Kiss - Crazy Nights
5. Warrant - Cherry Pie
6. Bon Jovi - Blood on Blood
7. Whitesnake - Slide It In
8. LA Guns - Ballad of Jayne (new version)
9. Alice Cooper - House of Fire
10. Cinderella - Don't Know What You've Got 'Til It's Gone

I rerally must get Ratt and Faster Pussycat's greatest hits.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

oh maybe not greatest hits, probably "best of"

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Ratt's 8191 best of cd is fucking solid (although, I could do w/o "Way Cool Jr.")

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

1. KISS, "Tears Are Falling"
2. Savatage, "Gutter Ballet"
3. Queensryche, "I Don't Believe in Love"
4. E'Nuff Z'Nuff, "New Thing"
5. King's X, "Over My Head"
6. Y&T, "Contagious"
7. Night Ranger, "Chippin' Away"
8. Alice Cooper, "Poison"
9. Autograph, "Turn Up the Radio"
10. Giuffria, "Call to the Heart"

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Guns N' Roses - "Rocket Queen"
Faster Pussycat - "No Room for Emotion"
Slaughter - "Up All Night"
Motley Crue - "Don't Go Away Mad (Just Go Away)"
Bullet Boys - "Smooth Up in Ya"
Cinderella - "Bad Seamstress Blues/Fallin' Apart at the Seams"
Ratt - "In Your Direction"
Tora Tora - "Walking Shoes"
Poison - "Unskinny Bop"
Dokken - "Into the Fire"

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Def Leppard - "Rocket"
Scorpions - "No One Like You"
Cinderella - "Don't Know What You Got Till It's Gone"
Queensryche - "Another Rainy Night"
Guns n Roses - "Rocket Queen"
Bon Jovi - "Livin' On a Prayer"
Motley Crue - "Too Young to Fall In Love"
Poison - "Talk Dirty to Me"
Winger - "Madeleine"
White Lion - "Wait"

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, does Van Halen count? They should be on there. Maybe "Dance the Night Away".

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, I was thinking some of the artists I picked didn't quite fit...I go for the "if they have babes in their videos, they count" rule.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I left off European acts ... no bias or anything -- I love the Scorps as much as the next guy, but they'd been around for over decade before they finally hit with "No One Like You". And Def Lep will always be a NWOBHM band to me. There's some grey areas, for sure. The post-Purple bands are great, but I think of them as 70s acts. I mean, I probably like Rainbow's "Since You've Been Gone" better than most tracks on my list but I didn't include it.

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

What, no Trixter???

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

The question is '80s hair/glam metal tracks and these SONGS all qualify as such. I'm only picking one song by a specific band.

Def Leppard "Photograph"
Warrant "Down Boys"
Motley Crue "Kickstart My Heart"
Kix "Cold Blood"
Poison "Nothin' But A Good Time"
Ratt "I Want A Woman"
Kiss "Heaven's On Fire"
Guns'n'Roses "Sweet Child O' Mine"
Cinderella "Shake Me"
Redd Kross "Zira (Call Out My Name)" (came out in 1990 but fuck it, sonically this is a personal cornerstone for the genre)

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Redd Kross "Zira (Call Out My Name)" (came out in 1990 but fuck it, sonically this is a personal cornerstone for the genre)

Anthony, do please try to refrain from being a fuckin' idiot. Redd Kross weren't hair/glam metal. Never were.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I used the word sonic for a reason. Listen to the track and tell me how that's not glam metal.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.creemmagazine.com/ProfilesImages/Redd_Kross_1987_12.jpg

and since I know superficial elements mean so much more to you than the actual music, I thought I'd remind you these guys had quite a bit of hair.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

They're just as "hair/glam" as Fastway.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Lots of hair does not equal hair metal. Blue Cheer had a lot of hair....were they hair metal? MC5 had a lot of hair...were they hair metal?

But beyond tonsorial matter, Redd Kross DON'T SOUND like 80's hair metal. Not even in the slightest. You should saw your ears off and give them to Salvation Army, as you clearly don't know how to use them properly.

Fastway were much more orthodox "hair/glam" than Redd Kross. Moreover, Redd Kross were IRONIC in their appropriation of metal (notice I didn't say "80's" nor "hair"). Redd Kross -- at their very heart a Punk band -- owe more to 70's rock and power pop than 80's Hair metal....a tag which would've sicked them to their very core.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex, do you know the song to which I'm referring? Cuz there's nothing punk about it. Ironic or not, it sounds like fuckin' glam metal.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

and frankly LOTS of hair-metal bands owe a lot to '70s rock and power pop, and performed with a wink. The only reason this song wouldn't qualify is based on where they played, what audience it was marketed to, shit you can't hear on the track itself. The closest thing to audible non-metal element would be the fact that its about Planet Of The Apes, but there's a lot of metal that's equally absurd in its subject matter.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

This is almost impossible without repeating (preferrably Def Leppard and Gary Moore)

However, these tracks were at least decent all of them:

Gary Moore: Empty Rooms
Def Leppard: Photograph
Bon Jovi: Livin' On a Prayer
Van Halen: Jump
Queen: Hammer To Fall (This one is so good it has to count!)
TNT: 10.000 Lovers
Stage Dolls: Soldier's Gun
Guns'n'Roses: Patience
White Lion: When The Children Cry
Kiss: Crazy Crazy Night

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex, do you know the song to which I'm referring? Cuz there's nothing punk about it. Ironic or not, it sounds like fuckin' glam metal.

There's a very great chance I was tiring of listening to said album when you were still in fuckin' nursery school, you newt. I agree that there's nothing punk about the song, but I didn't assert that there was -- I asserted that at their core, Redd Kross were a punk band. They grew out of punk, played punk -- and took the Punk sensibility with them as they mutated into the glorious amalgam of styles that they became.

.....and frankly LOTS of hair-metal bands owe a lot to '70s rock and power pop, and performed with a wink. The only reason this song wouldn't qualify is based on where they played, what audience it was marketed to, shit you can't hear on the track itself. The closest thing to audible non-metal element would be the fact that its about Planet Of The Apes, but there's a lot of metal that's equally absurd in its subject matter.

Of course lots of hair-metal owes to huge debts to 70's rock (notably Kiss & Queen), but so does lots of other stuff. But once again --- having hair and playing metal does not mean you're playing "hair metal". "80's Hair Metal" is SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC....and Redd Kross do NOT FIT THAT PROFILE, YOU SLACKJAWED GOON!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

this is a thread about a POX of songs, not bands. It's a glam metal song. Deal.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not a glam metal song. Period. YOU deal. Redd Kross are as "glam metal" as the Hoodoo Gurus are.

Anthony, you know I love ya, but sincerley....have that head of yours examined.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Nymphs:"2 Cats" (seriously check out their lone CD on Geffen)
Hanoi Rocks:"Don't you Ever Leave me Baby" (best hair metal ever?)
Motley Crue:"Save our Souls" (cause it was used in Argento's Demons)
Europe:"Final Countdown" (I got your Euro hair metal right here.)
Bon Jovi:"Runaway" (I dig this early shit more.)
Cinderella:"Nobody's Fool" (Long Cold Winter club-only tour ruled.)
Tesla: "Little Suzi" (These dudes were pretty cool.)
Ratt:"Round and Round" (The classic but it does rock.)
Britney Fox:"Girlschool" (total Cinderella wanna-be's)
L.A. Guns "Kiss my Love Goodbye" (record came with 3D shades!)

RIP: Little Caesar, Badlands and Tyketto

Fuck off: Firehouse

Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck off: Firehouse

Hahahahhaa.

Likewise:
Autograph, White Lion and fuckin' Trixster. DIE, DIE, DIE

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, "When the Children Cry" sucks but the guitar solo in "Wait" is actually kind of nice. But yeah, I can't stomach "Love of a Lifetime" either.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I will admit to liking "When The Children Cry", but only once every few years, no more. Trixter and Autograph ("Turn up! The Radio! / Things go better with rock!" *SOB*) were the worst of a particularly noxious bunch.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit, Hanoi Rocks' "A Day Late, a Dollar Short" is an amazing track. I'd never heard them before - is this even hair metal? It sounds almost like some happy medium between 70s power pop and 80s punk (minus any slop) or something. But a really solidly written tune and cool riff. Is most of their stuff like that? "Don't You Ever Leave Me Now" isn't bad too.

I'm enjoying Redd Kross so far, if not quite as much.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Bon Jovi - Blood on Blood
Foreigner - I Want To Know What Love Is
Ratt - Round and Round
Van halen - Runnin' With the Devil
Def Leppard - Photograph
Autograph - Turn Up The Radio(the only time I turn it down/is when I'm sleeping it off!)
Guns n' Roses - Sweet Child of Mine
Motley Crue - Dr. Feelgood
Warrant - Heaven
Whitesnake - Is This Love

derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Foreigner?

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, if they don't count I'll take Helix - Rock You or Twisted Sister - We're Not Gonna Take It

derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah "Don't you Ever Leave me Baby", is an all time classic! I can't find my best of CD! ARRRGHHH!

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

doh! It was right in fron of me!

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Listening just now, and I'll be damned if "Shake Me" by Cinderella doesn't employ virtually the same chord structure (albeit played a bit faster) as "Calling Dr.Love" by Kiss. Not enitrely surprising, that, but thought I'd mention it.

Redd Kross, once again..not 80's Hair Metal.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Me thinks Hanoi Rocks is the template and maybe the tops hair metal band and that seems to be why one would think they are not hair metal. Does that make sense? G'N'R's "When I Think About You" sounds like total Hanoi Rocks to me, as well as, a ton of tunes by Crue and Poison. It sounds funny but even hair metal went through a process of watering down and dumbing down into made-for-MTV-shit. Listen to Crue's Too Fast for Love or Hanoi Rocks' debut or early Faster Pussycat then listen to Warrant and Trixter. That is a long, long way down the food chain.

Speaking of Trixter (they re-did the cover art of Jailbreak), maybe we should pay some respect to Thin Lizzy for helping create the pop hair metal aesthetic.

Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't say that RK were hair metal, just that I'm enjoying them. "Dancing Queen" is a good song after all!

Aside from TYTFIL and a couple other songs, I don't really see what's so great about Motley Crue (not that I've listened to an entire album). I think they mostly sound like barely-written generic rock songs.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

When I was a lil dude growing up in Syracuse, NY, a group of the neighborhood dirts all quit school, moved out of their parents' houses and moved into this broken-down little ranch house. Their first act of re-modeling was to spray paint a giantic pentagram and the words "CRUE HOUSE #1" over the porch roof for the whole neighorhood to see as they passed by. Needless to say, they burned that house down not too long after they moved in during one of their marathon all-nighters.

I love Too Fast For Love, Shout at the Devil and most of Theater of Pain. However, my mom still insists that I ran around the house yelling "FEETER OF PAIN". The "th" took me a while.

Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)


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