What's so funny about peace, love, and dadrock?

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My own music tastes are like, I don't care if something is old, new, retro, or experimental... Good music is good music, and there's good and bad stuff in every genre.

So why all the hatred towards dadrock? IMO, not everything has to be pushing a boundary or be "modern" to be musically fulfilling.

Putting on the flame-retardant suit... :-)

― popmusic, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes, but if you look at the 'old' thread, you'll find people are looking for something new. I think.

― Bill, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So that's the basic argument.

A personal source of infuriation is how drab the conversation about this music is, too. It's perhaps because if there is something new or untested in the music, or if it's less critically respectable, people talking about it have to work harder to describe and defend it.

Whereas talking about Travis people can just say "well-turned songcraft" or whatever and need give no sense of their own engagement with the music. And it's unfair, but easy, to move from that to an idea that the music just *is* unengaging.

― Tom, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i. when you are young, you believe that things which are actually silly toss can CHANGE THE FABRIC OF THE UNIVERSE (and this is a good thing)

ii. when you age, you believe that GRATE things are just nice background music (and this is a poor thing)

clearly this is a generalisation in terms of age, but the sensibilities are recognisible

― mark s, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Have you ever noticed that lyric to "feelin alright" by Traffic is actually not the "I'm feelin' AL-RIGHT!" beer commercial boast you think but rather "Are you feeling alright? I'm not feeling too good myself"? That's how I feel about dadrock. Queasy but mildly reassured.

― fritz, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Most of the stuff that gets called Dadrock I find texturally tired, rhythmically uninvolving and lyrically uninsightful. Dadrock is an easy and somewhat weak perjorative as the stuff my Dad likes (50s and 60s country) has way more character and verve than Weller etc.
Is it possible for something to transcend dadrock, or is it only a label for the pleasant, unchallenging stuff?
In other words, let's say there's an album where it could be classified as dadrock. However, the songs are written and performed with much more character and verve than what's typically considered dadrock...
Is it still dadrock, or is it "cool"?
― popmusic, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ahh... Let's try this with better formatting.
Most of the stuff that gets called Dadrock I find texturally tired, rhythmically uninvolving and lyrically uninsightful. Dadrock is an easy and somewhat weak perjorative as the stuff my Dad likes (50s and 60s country) has way more character and verve than Weller etc.
Is it possible for something to transcend dadrock, or is it only a label for the pleasant, unchallenging stuff?
In other words, let's say there's an album where it could be classified as dadrock. However, the songs are written and performed with much more character and verve than what's typically considered dadrock...
Is it still dadrock, or is it "cool"?
― popmusic, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Argh -- Can't turn off the italics!
OK, let me try this a different way...
ORIGINAL QUOTE: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Most of the stuff that gets called Dadrock I find texturally tired, rhythmically uninvolving and lyrically uninsightful. Dadrock is an easy and somewhat weak perjorative as the stuff my Dad likes (50s and 60s country) has way more character and verve than Weller etc. -----------------------------------------------------------------
MY RESPONSE:
Is it possible for something to transcend dadrock, or is it only a label for the pleasant, unchallenging stuff?
In other words, let's say there's an album where it could be classified as dadrock. However, the songs are written and performed with much more character and verve than what's typically considered dadrock...
Is it still dadrock, or is it "cool"?
― popmusic, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes. That would totally be possible. The latest Bob Dylan album is on my Xmas list for instance.

― Tom, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The first time you "closed" the italics you actually just put ANOTHER "do italic" thing (as opposed to "/do italic"). So you had TWO to switch off.

― mark s, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The first record I ever bought was the first Oasis album. I listened to it about three times on the first day and I think I've only heard three times since.

It's good music but there has to be more than just good music. It's never enough if music is just good.

― Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The pleasant stuff is not dadrock. Although it can be used snidily in a pejorative sense, pleasant, when it comes down to it, actually good.

Dadrock is the boring stuff. Basically, it isn't a genre per se, it is just an insult that happens to operate within a genre.

― emil.y, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

is, dammit. Is actually good.

― emil.y, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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