KRS-One Cheers on WTC Attacks?

Ex-Nirvana rocker Krist Novoselic, who was on the panel, yelled back: "That is wrong, man. Suicide is not the answer."

he's always been a big bullshit artist, occaissionally brilliant.

Overseer! Overseer! Overseer! Ovasuh ovasuh ovasuh OFFICER!

The atrocity of 9/11 "doesn't affect us [the hip-hop community]," he said. "9/11 happened to them, not us," he added, explaining that by "them" he meant "the rich ... those who are oppressing us. RCA or BMG, Universal, the radio stations."

...invoking the names of record companies and radio stations -- GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DEATH OF THREE THOUSAND PEOPLE HERE -- THIS HAS FUCKING NOTHING TO DO WITH MUSIC, YOU SHIT ON A STICK!

In terms of inserting-entire-leg-in-mouth-to-the-point-of-earning-entirely-justified-homicide, this ranks right up there with Falwell's accusation that homosexuals and unwed mothers helped cause 9/11.

Fuck people, man.

oh shit, so THAT'S why 9/11 happened. al qaeda was pissed at the big labels for giving artists crappy royalty rates and charging them for promos. and they're still plotting against us 'cause the damn big labels are STILL doing it. now it all makes sense.

Think this was supposed to be a dig at KRS-One's participation in the Stop the Violence "Self-Destruction" track?

-- M@tt He1geson (matt@game[remove]informer.com), October 14th, 2004.

one of the things Rollins focused on was a comment KRS made about why "the hip hop community" doesn't vote, and generally ridiculed the idea of the "hip hop community" voting bloc and KRS's claims to speak on its behalf.

If I would've been in that room, I would've walked up to the panel and put my foot 12 inches up his fat ass, went to jail for assuault, smiled for the cameras and called every male on that panel a fuckin' pussy. Where's Lydia Lunch when you need 'er.

"I mean, this ought to get him banned from any semblance of airwave ever again"

baffles me. America isn't about making people who say ridiculous things shut up.

baffles me. America isn't about making people who say ridiculous things shut up.

I suppose I should've been clearer about this. I don't necessarily condone banning (Stence's point about it not being the American way OTM), but if Andrew Dice Clay can get banned for life for reciting a lude limerick on MTV, surely this is a worse case, no? My point is that after this statement, surely KRS-One should be releaved of the burden of credibility from here on in, as he's clearly a deluded spouter of ignorant vitriol.

I do feel, though that statements like this -- and Falwell's statement I alluded to earlier -- ought to inspire some responsibility in broadcasters. No one should put a microphone in Falwell's fat fucking gob ever again as a result of that statement and the same should apply here.

I wanna hear R.E.M.'s comment.

Jesus. Relieved.

rollins is right....half the lloyd banks (or whoever) fans out there probably wouldn't know KRS from MC Breed, and I doubt they give fuck what he thinks

Sometimes, but there's a handful of classic singles....Why Is That?, I'm Still #1, Jack of Spades, South Bronx, The Bridge Is Over, My Philosophy, Sound of the Police, Self-Destruction, bunch more i'm probably leaving out...shit, Duck Down off Sex & Violence was pretty great....Some great beats and rhymes there....sometimes he made his didactic psuedopolitical shite dance!

also, if we're condemning psuedophilosophical didactic bullshit then ILM fames (and rightly so) Public Enemy would be shite too....and they've released albums I like as much as anything ever released by anybody....

Why not? It's His fault.

rollins is right....half the lloyd banks (or whoever) fans out there probably wouldn't know KRS from MC Breed, and I doubt they give fuck what he thinks

I was going to ask the more Hip Hop inclined here if KRS-One was still considered relevant in community. I think what blows me away about his comments -- apart from their herculean insensitivity -- is he tireless adherence to the belief that life begins and fuckin' ends with Hip-Hop and that, clearly, nothing else matters.

Fair point. But still -- the Dixie Chicks kerfuffle was about partisan politics, whereas KRS-One's statements were purely just in abysmally poor taste.

Hahhah...sorry, I'm just being reactionary.

Yeah, "Mein Kampf" is a great read too, so long as you turn a blind eye to what happened later.
Alex that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard you say, joke or no.

The night is young. I'm just following KRS-One's lead.

And fuck that Mein Kampf thing, for two reasons:

1. BDP's records ARE good; MK is incomprehensible.
2. KRS-One's comments are stupid but he didn't kill anybody.

For a start, my allusion to "Mein Kampf" was obviously a joke -- equating KRS-One with Hitler is obviously an extreme exaggeration -- but that doesn't excuse KRS-One's statement. No he didn't kill anyone, but he displayed an extraordinary lack of respect that blazes new frontiers in bad taste.

I'm still bumping "The P Is Still Free" though.

I got your point, Stence. Please don't compare me to Ari Fleischer. I promise not to compare anyone else to Hitler this evening.

What I mean is, KRS's statement should loudly telegraph the fact that he's CLEARLY a deluded moron, so no one need interview him for his perspective on anything ever again. I don't want it to be official policy.

Well, i also suggested that someone should shoot him in the mouth -- that's not really very American either.

But no, I don't think anyone should be banned, nor actually shot in the mouth.

(just poking fun, now, ya hear? don't get yr panties in a twist.)

Oh lighten up. I just thought it was a funny comment on Ronan's part.

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and that my taste is impeccable

At least I have some substance, then. You're just a foul stench.

? Wha?

Well, unlike you...I do occaisionally step away from the computer and lead a real life.

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"Voting in a corrupt society adds more corruption," he added. "America has to commit suicide if the world is to be a better place."

Ex-Nirvana rocker Krist Novoselic, who was on the panel, yelled back: "That is wrong, man. Suicide is not the answer."

This is still my favourite bit of musician dialogue ever!

Here's the full story to be stored for posterity, btw:

KRS Glad At 9/11 Atrocity, or is it Racist Media Spin?

KRS-One, decency zero

If Osama Bin Laden ever buys a rap album, he'll probably start with a CD by KRS-One.
The hip-hop anarchist has declared his solidarity with Al Qaeda by asserting that he and other African-Americans "cheered when 9/11 happened."
The rapper, whose real name is Kris Parker, defiled the memory of those who died in the terrorist attacks as he spouted off at a recent New Yorker Festival panel discussion.
"I say that proudly," the Boogie Down Productions founder went on, insisting that, before the attack, security guards kept black people out of the Trade Center "because of the way we talk and dress.
"So when the planes hit the building, we were like, 'Mmmm - justice.'"
The atrocity of 9/11 "doesn't affect us [the hip-hop community]," he said. "9/11 happened to them, not us," he added, explaining that by "them" he meant "the rich ... those who are oppressing us. RCA or BMG, Universal, the radio stations."
Parker's screed drew a loud boo from novelist Tom Kelly, who was in the audience. "I lost six friends there on 9/11," Kelly told us afterward.
Parker also sneered at efforts by other rappers to get young people to vote.
"Voting in a corrupt society adds more corruption," he added. "America has to commit suicide if the world is to be a better place."
Ex-Nirvana rocker Krist Novoselic, who was on the panel, yelled back: "That is wrong, man. Suicide is not the answer."
But, judging by Parker's downward-spiraling career, he's already bent on self-destruction.

Saw him live recently. He was on that old "inside job" thing.

But at least he performed the hits from Criminal Minded!

That is wrong, manbro. Suicide is not the answer.

^^in italics, obv

when was krs-one not an idiot?

for 15 minutes in 1987

well, he did misinterpret what the bridge was even about in the first place...

Wish I hadn't piled on, partly because attacking people's imperfect reactions to 9/11 is such a soul-killing game, and partly because KRS-One is great in spite of all the fucked-up things he's said and done, and great right up through a couple albums ago. I'm going to go buy the new one now.

i think that half his fans underrate him, and the other half overrate

although his musical track record is more than spotty, it is remarkable how long of an effective career he's had, despite his well intended/misguided/ever present ranting

Pre-Criminal Minded (1985)
12:41 - Success is the Word

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/b/boogiedownp_criminalm_106b.jpg

That is wrong, man.

should have been an uzi

What's the USB connection for?

Oh of course, durr.

"Voting in a corrupt society adds more corruption," he added. "America has to commit suicide if the world is to be a better place."

Ex-Nirvana rocker Krist Novoselic, who was on the panel, yelled back: "That is wrong, man. Suicide is not the answer."

I still occasionally think about this and chuckle. Makes it even funnier if you imagine Novoselic talking in a drawn-out comedy hippie voice.

Alex if I am a fart, then you are a shit.
At least I have some substance, then. You're just a foul stench.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, October 16, 2004 4:36 PM (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ah the elevated discourse of old ilx