Bands that haven't yet, but one day WILL release a CLASSIC album.

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Just curious.

― peepee (peepee), Thursday, 14 October 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Probably someone we least expect....like the Hot Hot Heat or someone......

....or not.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 14 October 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

deerhoof for sure - and just to irritate alex a lil (and because i do believe it's entirely possible), the walkmen.

― j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Thursday, 14 October 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Deerhoof is a great choice. They're due, the same way that Xiu Xiu was due last year at this time (and delivered with "Fabulous Muscles").

Do Make Say Think and Beef Terminal are examples of artists where each records has been an mprovement on the one before, but I wouldn't call any of them classic just yet. That could end any album now.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 14 October 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

That last sentence makes zero sense ... that is, both are on the cusp of something truly great ...

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 14 October 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

My wildcard pick is Franz Ferdinand, whom I don't even really like but think they have some sort of "potential".

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 14 October 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The Shins are a good candidate.

But maybe they already have released a classic album. Maybe they haven't, but they've already peaked. Who knows...

― supercub, Thursday, 14 October 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

manhunter - friends of mine and soon to release a 12" on ghostly international - beyond pure nepotism, these guys are fucking awesome.

oranges band - if they can summon up the muse they had writing "success" and sustain it for a full album, thatd be a pretty fucking great album.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 15 October 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 15 October 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish. SFA are very much on their way out.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 15 October 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought the same thing about Modest Mouse.

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 15 October 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Post Jupiter Cave-In, maybe.

― harshaw (jube), Friday, 15 October 2004 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The Dresden Dolls have potential maybe.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 15 October 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The Strokes.

The Dears.

The Coral.

Kanye West.

David Banner ... who's come pretty damn close already.

TV on the Radio.

― Chris O., Friday, 15 October 2004 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Decemberists

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 15 October 2004 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Young and Sexy
Jason Falkner
P:ano

― derrick (derrick), Friday, 15 October 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Do Make Say Think and Beef Terminal are examples of artists where each records has been an mprovement on the one before, but I wouldn't call any of them classic just yet. That could end any album now.

i think "& yet & yet" is pretty classic! i really like that album, much more than the follow-up

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 15 October 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish Hot Hot Heat were half as good as people keep saying they are. I've seen them live. It was not pretty. What a racket.

― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 15 October 2004 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

outrageous cherry. every album of theirs has been better than the last.. now if they could just trim a bit of filler off they'd be smokin'..

― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Friday, 15 October 2004 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Sophie Ellis Bextor

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 15 October 2004 06:34 (twenty-one years ago)

T.I.????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

― jake b. (cerybut), Friday, 15 October 2004 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Hot Hot Heat's name is quite apt, as their music originates from the deepest, most sulphurous pits of Hell. And not the cool parts where all the heavy metal bands hang out.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 15 October 2004 06:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe! Trap Muzik is pretty good...
x-post

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 15 October 2004 06:50 (twenty-one years ago)

"I wish. SFA are very much on their way out."

I heard some of their forthcoming album this weekend. It hasn't been mixed, it will be mixed in Nov. From what I heard it could well be a classic. Fucking brilliant stuff.

― scott, Friday, 15 October 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Nellie McKay

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 15 October 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I think Get Away From Me IS quite a classic, but for multiple factors standing in the way not quite a CLASSIC.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 15 October 2004 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Joss Stone

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 15 October 2004 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

!!!
Badly Drawn Boy
LCD Soundsystem

― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 15 October 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Soul Rebels Brass Band

I'd say Spoon, but I think Kill the Moonlight was classic.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 15 October 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I really hope Stat Quo can.

oranges band - if they can summon up the muse they had writing "success" and sustain it for a full album, thatd be a pretty fucking great album.

yeah the oranges band has a handful of songs that are just jaw dropping then they kinda back off into dull sub-strokes stuff....but the highlights are brilliant.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 15 October 2004 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Firey Furnaces (pace all of you who think their first two albums are more successful than I do)

― Not That Chuck, Friday, 15 October 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

One day, and its not soon but it's possibly later,

Busted.

There, I have said it.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 October 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Slint.

― hmmm (hmmm), Friday, 15 October 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Sondre Lerche

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 15 October 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Vitalic (please god!)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 15 October 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

While I personally consider their last two albums classics, I still have a feeling that The Flaming Lips next album is the one that will really achieve canonical status and cross them over to more commercial audiences.

Much like the way Radiohead slowly developed a following with "The Bends", while "OK Computer", building on the reputation of "The Bends" plus being an excellent album in itself, was the one that transformed them to mega status.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 15 October 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

but transmissions... and clouds taste metallic are, in many circles, as or more classic than the most recent two. IMO, flaming lips are falling down the hill of relevance.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 15 October 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

If it wasn't for The Flaming Lips, there would have been no The Earlies, nor Grandaddy, nor The Polyphonic Spree

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 15 October 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah - thats true, geir. as an aside, im not sure they deserve a great deal of approbation for all that-but thats beside the point. the flaming lips are CLEARLY a classic band, and their classic status has been established since the mid-nineties. i think theyve become self-parodies at this point, though. while their commercial potential may not be fully realized yet, i honestly dont believe theyll make any albums after now that will be as classic as the ones theyve already made.

maybe im wrong - maybe theyre on the verge of something great, or some new evolution. but right now, theres too many stuffed animals, too many cloying sentiments, and too many unconvincing melodies.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 15 October 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

just read the sister thread to this one, and realized that what im saying about the lips has been said.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm dissapointed with you ILM...not one person has named an artist that realistically will one day release a classic...in fact, most of these are "has beens" or "never wills" (SFA, BadlyDB, The M'er F'in Coral?)...These artists have not reached their peak yet: Circulatory System, Ellen Allien, Black Dice, M. Ward, m83, Sixtoo

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah yeah yeahs ? potential but not a very good album (pretty average even).
interpol ?

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

BLACK DICE!!?? WHAT? Come on! Explain that one.

― danh (danh), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i call BS on circulatory system and m83 - e6 is done, and m83 is pretty sterile.

black dice is a more interesting example. some of my more diehard black dice-fan friends seem to think that everything they do is better than the previous thing. im not sure quite where i stand, but i certainly think they have it in them to keep making awesome records. that said, i think they already HAVE released at least one consensus classic record, beaches and canyons, and creature comforts is really really close, if not as good.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i could agree with yeah yeah yeahs...

could we expand this to "classic records", so to include singles?

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

What are the crtiteria for considering a Black Dice record a classic?

― danh (danh), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

same as for any other record, i suppose - overall critical reaction, totally personal subjective response, i guess durability of the previous two criteria, etc.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they already have released at least one classic album, but I think Lightning Bolt have it in them to release one of those A CLASSIC FOR THE AGES albums, the kind that all kinds of people will hear and be like "this isn't usually my kinda thing, but [thrashes vigorously]".

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

oh - and if timbaland calls your shit "crazy" but still bumps it in his escalade, totally classic.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Lightning Bolt comment OTM.

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

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oh shit, i didn't realize albini was doing it. next record then.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 15 October 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

the members of my band think OUR next record is gonna be a total classic. and i have total faith in their taste/opinions!

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 15 October 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

duly noted.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 15 October 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

it's funny...people won't call an album classic until at least a decade after it's released.

but yeah, black dice, lightning bolt (both great bands) i think have already made classic albums.

― seahorse genius (seahorse genius), Friday, 15 October 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

id say thats not an unreasonable policy, seahorse. its not my policy, but i think there are a lot of examples of albums that knock everybody out on first listen, then quietly fade.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 15 October 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

well, the songwriter in my band (me) thinks OUR first record (if ever there is one)may not be a classic but will definitely be worth buying (not download !). but it's just his opinion (speaking of yourself in the third person is a sign of genius...of stupidity...haven't decided yet)

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 15 October 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually really hope the Strokes have it in them to make a really great album, with songs that are all of the same quality as "12.51" and "Hard to Explain", but taken a little bit further. A little but epic, perhaps. Of the crop of new bands, I think they're the most likely to become somewhat classic.

I'm also excited to see what the Fiery Furnaces can come up with, much as I like the previous albums, hopefully something new could see them really take it a few steps further (or in many directions!), and increase in popularity... but that may just be a dream of mine.

― John Cei Douglas (John Cei Douglas), Friday, 15 October 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd agree that they have it in them - but they seem like the type of group that might go out of their way not to.
-- Thermo Thinwall

OTM. I kept thinking, I like this album and all, but some of these songs would really be something if they would drop the retro synth aesthetic and alter the arrangement a bit. But then, that aesthetic is kind of their trademark so far, and perhaps it actually adds something rather than subtracts. Either way, I can't wait for their next album.

― sleep (sleep), Friday, 15 October 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Wolf Eyes ... 4 x LP is the only format in which they shine

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It seems The Strokes' debut album is already considered a classic. Not that I understand why though.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Geir do you like Can?

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Not really, no.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Old Man Gloom. Seminar 3 is pretty much up there already, but at 30mins, it's pretty skimpy.

― original bgm, Friday, 15 October 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I think Get Away From Me IS quite a classic, but for multiple factors standing in the way not quite a CLASSIC.

OTM x-post

― Atnevon (Atnevon), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/lynskey/themostpromisinggroupinthew.jpg

― Gribowitz (Lynskey), Friday, 15 October 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.webworld.co.uk/belladonna/i/belladonna26.jpg

― Gribowitz (Lynskey), Friday, 15 October 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still waiting on Starship...

― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Friday, 15 October 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/lynskey/02_Stage.jpg

― Gribowitz (Lynskey), Friday, 15 October 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought of Lightning Bolt first when I saw this thread. Already their albums give me that "This isn't my thing but it's fucking amazing" reaction. The only question is whether they want to go in the classic-album-making direction or not.

― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 16 October 2004 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow there are some good responses here. I agree with Sondra Lerche
and Mr. Snrub was on to something:

!!!
Badly Drawn Boy
LCD Soundsystem

-- Mr. Snrub (mistersnru...), October 15th, 2004 1:28 PM.

― Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:05 (twenty-one years ago)

ROVO
The Pillows
Busta Rhymes
The Streets

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Sophie Ellis Bextor

Read My Lips is classic!

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)

nine years pass...

How has this held up 10 years later?

― peepee, Friday, 16 May 2014 17:47 (eleven years ago)

terribly

― verhzleyavbtreleambreb (imago), Friday, 16 May 2014 17:54 (eleven years ago)

Let's reload for 2024 though. Micachu is my shout

― verhzleyavbtreleambreb (imago), Friday, 16 May 2014 17:55 (eleven years ago)

Black Dice will never be as good as "Beaches and Canyons" again.
― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Friday, 15 October 2004 16:05 (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this holds up p well

re lightning bolt 'classic album' is obv a nonsense but their 2005 lp was more fun than rtl so it will have been true that they will have improved

― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 May 2014 17:57 (eleven years ago)

looks like LCD and Kanye yes, like 95% of the rest no

― frogbs, Friday, 16 May 2014 18:12 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, that Kanye prediction was post-The College Dropout, though, so I don't know how prescient it really was as a prediction.

― intheblanks, Friday, 16 May 2014 18:27 (eleven years ago)

TV on the Radio is a definite yes for me-Return to Cookie Mountain and Dear Science were both after these posts.

― monster_xero, Friday, 16 May 2014 18:33 (eleven years ago)

whoa whoa whoa guys…
hold on

black dice DID put out a classic record: Load Blown. actually, two: Repo.
Hypermagic Mountain by Lightning Bolt is also a classic album, and fits the criteria listed: "this isn't really my thing but, [thrashes vigorously]"
i lived out this scenario in 2011 when i played my elvis costello obsessed roommate "2 morro morro land" on the first day of college. it's a classic.

Interpol? They already had two classic records in the bag by Oct. 2004. Haven't made another since.
let's see….did animal collective get listed? every lp from sung tongs to merriweather is a classic, that's pretty indisputable.

TV On the Radio came close with Cookie Mountain but maybe not quite.

OH! deerhoof. runners four is the consensus CLASSCIC, yeah? i mean apple o' is classic too but runners four fits.

Xiu Xiu's "The Air Force" is more classic than anything else listed above.
that is all.

― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 16 May 2014 18:35 (eleven years ago)

wait no i think he was obsessed with the replacements… so not much of a stretch but still

― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 16 May 2014 18:36 (eleven years ago)

let's just go ahead and defer the judgment on all of this to pitchfork scores to save time

― Karl Malone, Friday, 16 May 2014 18:37 (eleven years ago)

whatever happened to black kids

― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 16 May 2014 18:39 (eleven years ago)

feel kinda bad for those guys tbh

― marcos, Friday, 16 May 2014 18:41 (eleven years ago)

they weren't very good though

― marcos, Friday, 16 May 2014 18:41 (eleven years ago)

Nobody said Dan Deacon! Well you'd be wrong,

― frogbs, Friday, 16 May 2014 18:41 (eleven years ago)

Bromst is a classic

― global tetrahedron, Friday, 16 May 2014 18:43 (eleven years ago)

both that and America, I'd say

― frogbs, Friday, 16 May 2014 19:03 (eleven years ago)

Did people really know who Dan Deacon was in 2004?

― MarkoP, Friday, 16 May 2014 19:16 (eleven years ago)

really kind of hammers home the moribundity of the 'classic album' when you find yourself cycling through all these bands and trying to objectively hem and haw about whether M83 or some other band you don't give a shit about might have released one of these by virtue of lots of ppl apparently liking it

― From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Friday, 16 May 2014 19:27 (eleven years ago)

Personally, I would say Super Furry Animals have already released 3 classic albums. However, I expect they will release at least one album that will be part of the modern "canon" and help them crossover to larger album sales among "music geeks"
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, October 15, 2004 12:50 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wish. SFA are very much on their way out.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, October 15, 2004 12:52 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ Lord knows I didn't feel that way at the time, but hats off to this guy for being so prescient!

― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Friday, 16 May 2014 19:35 (eleven years ago)

I'm disappointed nobody said Destroyer.

― MarkoP, Friday, 16 May 2014 19:38 (eleven years ago)

Sondre Lerche
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, October 15, 2004 9:26 AM (9 years ago)

I agree with Sondre Lerche.
― Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Friday, October 15, 2004 10:23 AM (9 years ago)

Wow there are some good responses here. I agree with Sondra Lerche
― Bimble (bimble), Saturday, October 16, 2004 1:05 AM (9 years ago)

2004 was such a strange time in human history

― tao lin wolf (unregistered), Friday, 16 May 2014 19:42 (eleven years ago)

The Dresden Dolls have potential maybe.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, October 14, 2004 7:13 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 16 May 2014 19:48 (eleven years ago)

Did people really know who Dan Deacon was in 2004?

maybe not. but he did have some stuff before Spiderman of the Rings that I was aware of. looking back the dude clearing had talent but was more interested in messing around at that point. Max Tundra may have been a good one.

― frogbs, Friday, 16 May 2014 19:51 (eleven years ago)

Going through ILM, he doesn't seem to get mentioned until 2005 and doesn't get his own topic until 2007.

― MarkoP, Friday, 16 May 2014 21:07 (eleven years ago)

I'm disappointed nobody said Destroyer.

in before someone chimes in and says that Kaputt isn't even in the top 5 best destroyer albums

― diamonddave85‌ (diamonddave85), Friday, 16 May 2014 21:44 (eleven years ago)

Throwing out Holy Ghost!, Unknown Moral Orchestra, and Ought.

Let's see what happens.

― monster_xero, Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:52 (eleven years ago)

KING

― The Reverend, Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:19 (eleven years ago)

Chance the Rapper
Zola Jesus

― MarkoP, Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:26 (eleven years ago)

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