I really think Judas Priest is extremely good. No foolin'

While I appreciate your perception and interpretation of me, I don't swear quite that much. And, like, I'm really offended. You really got me there. You SHORE DO GOT ME PEGGED. That's, uh, really a sore spot. I'm, er, ah... let's see, how do I put this? Sure to change real soon, there, dipshit.

I guess this is what you were referring to, eh? I'm not sure how to describe Judas Priest. They are significantly different in my mind from others in the heavy metal category. I write like I talk, word whiskers and all, quite naturally, so I'll be sure to continue to do so, knowing it really boils yer oil. You got the problem here. :)

It's not a "classic or dud" thread.

Even then, aren't Judas Priest considered relatively significant as metal history goes? Like more than A-Ha is as far as dance/pop goes?

I have "Another Think Coming" on a comp. It's OK. I also remember "Parental Guidance." I haven't knowingly heard anything else.

This is my new motto.

Hero of the night
Blood and thunder
Rushing through me
Till the dawn of light
The sky is turning red

Like a renegade
All alone I walk through fire
Till I crash and blaze
I'm living on the edge

Start a chain reaction
Sears the neon light
Stealing all the action
Always takes the fight

Leather Rebel
Lightning in the dark
Leather Rebel
With a burning heart

Master of the streets
Bullet proof and bound for glory
Cities at my feet
I'm turning on the power

Running wild and free
No-one dares to stand before me
That's my destiny
To rule the darkest hours

I can see my future
Writings on the wall
Legend in my lifetime
Stories will recall

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I mean, one simply can't get more OTT than that. Does he really believe that he will go down into folklore, into mythology, as a leather rebel? Or is it that he's describing a more archetypal figure as part of the generally apocalyptic worldview of the Painkiller album? I hope it's the former, I really do.

And you would be...........wrong.

I was at the March Metal Meltdown in NJ the weekend immediately after Halford came out, and I took a little straw poll among the crowd. Basically, this consisted of walking up to various metalheads, striking up a conversation, and eventually working around to "Hey, didja hear Rob Halford came out? He's gay!"

Every single metalhead I talked to responded (paraphrasing, of course), "Well, uh, yeah, dude. We've known that for years."

From about Turbo on, Rob was referred to as Rob "Bone Smuggler" Halford in numerous metal magazines. It never affected the fan base one bit. The only people who didn't know (or "know") Rob Halford was gay were the mainstream rock press, who didn't give a shit anyway. If he hadn't chosen to come out, would have gone blithely on paying absolutely no attention to him or Judas Priest until the end of time.

Metalheads are a) way more tolerant and b) way more loyal than just about any group of rock or pop fans. Only country fans are as loyal as metal fans.

OH MY GOD.

NJ != MN in 1991, I'd wager.

I do, and it is.

I got Visions Of The Beast, a 2-DVD compilation of every Maiden video (except for the new one, which sucks anyway), in today's mail. Gonna watch it tonight, piss off the wife.

I do think they were totally cool people though, even if the music often fell short. Like, I like the fact that they totally had this vision of metal ... well hell, actually they sort of invented metal as a trope, in terms of iconography. Wearing the leather and whatnot.

Even if they were largely monochromatic, they revealed themselves as pretty goddamn interesting listeners though - covering the likes of Joan Baez and Fleetwood Mac.

And of course, they totally invented the NWOBHM sound. It's that kind of rhythmic stiffness that a lot of those late 70s British bands picked up on. Def Lep, Maiden, etc ... totally picked up on Priest's sound. Like, in some measure, even something like Metallica is unimaginable without them.

You know, Ned, I am certain that a large portion of the Judas Priest fanbase has no idea that Rob came out.

You paste-eaters definitely have another thing coming.

At Henry's and in motherswear
I'd go to bang my head

and thought, wow, he was into cross dressing at a young age. It was only when I read the lyric sheet that I realised he was singing:

At Henry's and in Mothers, where
I'd go to bang my head

Apparently both Henry's and Mothers were venues playing hard rock in the 70's in Birmingham.

When he emerged from hospital, he had suddenly become the world's biggest Judas Priest fan.

new one!

judas priest are great, nude spock otm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT6IoPTXAXU

exiled

I wish they'd done the triple-LP rock opera 30 years ago.

i know but this really isn't bad

moley's story back there is pretty awesome

Priest=\m/

-- latebloomer: damn cheapskate satanists (latebloomer), Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:35 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

i stand by this statement

"United" is ace.

Other than that, I find it amazing how the leather fashion that became so associated with the heavy metal genre during the 80s, and thus very much a macho symbol, was originally influenced by gay culture. Congratulations to Rob Halford for making extremely macho (if not closet gay) kids wearing gay fashion :)

Exiled reminds me of Queen.

all those strings!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIC7KQPDuDc

So... this new album Nostradamus. What do people think? I've heard bits and pieces here and there and I really don't quite know how to approach what I'm hearing. I'm genuinely confused. The incidental pieces sound like Jim Foetus taking the piss out of epic soundtracks, and the three complete tracks I've heard, including the title track, are kind of overproduced, overworked and overblown. Perhaps this is one I'll be skipping. I sure hope that, for the next album, they strip things back and give us some hard rock groovathons with cocky lyrical incitements to stand up for your right to be yourself, because this is the Priest I love best.

I think the album is a gigantic mess. Some tracks are exceptional, and I'd go as far to say that "Persecution" would be a perfect fit on Defenders of the Faith. The first disc is pretty good, but the second disc grinds to a halt with boring slow songs, and there are a couple of ballads on there that are unbearable to the point of embarrassing.

"British Steel" is a great record! Was Halford coming out such a shock to metallers, though? Songs like "Grinder" seem extremely homoerotic in hindsight.

i still kind of have trouble getting into priest - they seem so marginally metal a lot of the time, all twiddly and twitchy instead of heavy and violent - but every once in a while halford's voice is just so over-the-top bonkers that i figure, i would love to be able to annoy people by really enjoying this

Have you heard Sad Wings of Destiny and Sin After Sin?

I kind of think of them as an extension of Deep Purple, whether or not that's metal.

mainly sin after sin, and some stained class so far

Try "Victim of Changes" maybe?

In a certain weird way, I get something of a similar vibe that I get from Caress of Steel?

Sad Wings is the best starting point.

But if you really want heavy and violent, try Painkiller.

Stained Class is awesome. Beyond the Realms of Death is pretty pulverizing.

So I caught the current iteration of them last night, first time seeing them at all, and that was a damn good time. Solid mix of the standards and some obscurities, and the encore was "Electric Eye," "Hell Bent For Leather," "Metal Gods," "Breakin' the Law" and "Livin' After Midnight" -- the last three of which also had Glenn Tipton joining them. He was keeping it steady and non-flashy in the playing but it was great to see regardless.

they're the main support for the UK Ozzy tour that has been postponed about 4 times now (announced in 2017!), even before pandemic i think it had been delayed 2 or 3 times due to Ozzy health... at this point I want Priest to say fuck off to it and do their own tour.... but i'm guessing the agent/manager has to deal with Sharon.

I should also add another bonus was them doing "Diamonds and Rust" for the first time in a decade, apparently!

Very envious. I just saw them for the first time last year, well after Tipton had to retire. And I love (their version of) "Diamonds and Rust"

I am excited that I am taking my very excited 19-year old son to the show in Philly.

I took him to see Motorhead before Lemmy died and he loved that and Lemmy mostly kept things together at a show on a tour where he wasn't always able to so we have more fond memories of the show so we're hoping for the best with Priest as well.