WHO vs. KINKS vs. FLOYD

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Which of these is the best "late period" song by these 60s bands:

The Who - "Eminence Front"
Kinks - "Come Dancing"
Pink Floyd - "Learning To Fly"

― glenn middleton, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Ew, what a dire list.

I say Kinks.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the later kinks probably have the least embarrassing legacy, yeah.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

ew but come dancing really sucks. Can we take the enormity of the Floyds 87 mega concerts?

― lukey (Lukey G), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the enormity of the Floyd comeback tours seconded

― steve hise, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

You mean the glorified Dave Gilmour and his Salaried Sidemen tours?

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I kinda like all three of those songs!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Plenty of tremendous latter-day Kinks songs to choose from, compared to just about zilch from the Who & Floyd, but of these three I'll take "Eminence Front", because it offically marks the passing into laughable anachronism of the expression "put-on."

― briania (briania), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

The Kinks, as it sounds like they were still having fun at the time.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

ew, ew and ew, with a slight nod to the kinks. but if you substitute the kinks' "better things," that'd make the decision a lot easier.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked "State of Confusion" when it came out. I was, like, 6 or 7, and had no idea they had such any history, but, uh, ergo, Kinks rule.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF dude, "Eminence Front" is great! The opening guitar itself = classic.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Eminence Front is among my favorite songs by the Who. I can't say the same for either Come Dancing or Learning to Fly. So the Who win.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I think for the first time ever on ILM, I'm going to go against the Who and pick "Come Dancing". EF is an above average tune, but "Come Dancing" is great. Feel free to heckle, but it's probably one of my 5 favorite tracks by the Kinks.

Like Alex said, they're still having fun. It's more Davies nostalgia, but there's a sense in the performance that he's being a bit goofy, too.

― JC-L (JC-L), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. I love "Eminence Front"--especially the weird little rhythmic trick of the ending in the video...

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

"Come Dancing" is a great song. I go for "Come Dancing" in this case, although overall, I still think "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason" is better than any late-career album by The Kinks nor The Who.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that Who song on the radio ever?

I like the other 2. What's so bad about "Learning To Fly?"

― billstevejim, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Another point: no one could ever accuse the Kinks of being pretentious. The same cannot be said for the likes of the Who and the `Floyd.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh come on, Alex, have you never heard Preservation, Act 2?

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, relatively speaking they're not as pretentious as the Who and Pink Floyd. You must admit that.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh the horror if the Kinks had struck DSOTM-level success with Preservation. Far better they continued to plug along with two or three great songs on every album on up even into the 90s. Presumably Ray's making enough on publishing & licensing that there will never be another Kinks album.

― briania (briania), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Xpost, yes, yes, but not for lack of trying.
Though the Preservation songs done live on the BBC Recordings actually are really good.

non-xpost, and Dave's had a stroke, so he may not be able to make another Kinks album.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

did the Kinks make an album after UK Jive? If so did anyone buy it?

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

AMG lists Phobio and To The Bone

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

oh right, phobia was a studio record, to the bone was live. I never heard phobia. actually I never heard much kinks stuff post muswell hillbillies except for State of Confusion. maybe there's a kinks s/d thread I'll go look up.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anybody heard Dave Davies's Bug? I'm thinking of ordering it, but, um, maybe it's bad?

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

xxx: There was Phobia, which I thought not-so-great (and I loved UK Jive). Then they did To The Bone, which is really very sweet -- not exactly an "unplugged" recording, but VERY nice-sounding, relaxed re-recordings of old songs done live in their own studio. To me, it sounds like the way the songs should have sounded if they'd have been able to do better recordings back in the day. There are also a couple of new songs on it, of which the title track might be Ray's last masterpiece.

Any news to report on the health of good old Dave?

― briania (briania), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

from Davedavies.com:

Dave is out of hospital and recovering from his stroke well and is back at home in England where he'll be continuing his healing. Dave thanks you for your cards and email messages and promises to keep you updated on his progress! Dave and his family would also like to thank the fantastic team of doctors, nurses and physical therapists at the National Neurological hospital in London for taking very good care of him.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

The Who was definitely running on fumes on their last two albums, but "Eminence Front" is still one of my favorite songs by them. The guitar lick, bass line and the synth sequence on that one are great.

"Come Dancing" is a good and very catchy song, but it isn't nearly one of the Kinks best.

"Learning to Fly" to me sounds more like Mr. Mister than Pink Floyd.

― earlnash, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"Learning to Fly" to me sounds more like Mr. Mister than Pink Floyd.

This wouldn't be so painful if it wasn't so accurate.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

The Kinks had a lot of pretentious moments. Not that there is anything wrong about being pretentious anyway.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

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WHO vs. KINKS vs. FLOYD - late period