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looks like it's out in the UK, but not in the US. anybody heard it yet? i think ill probably order it from the UK before it gets here in december. the only thing im concerned about is that it seemed that the castle remaster of grotesque had sound quality worse than the original cd pressing. is that a fluke? i dont wanna re-buy slates (the best ep of all time) if it's gonna sound lame.

― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

a new fall reissue? i guess its wednesday.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

whatever - slates totally deserves it.

― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

YAY WEDNESDAY!

i need to go pick some of these up....is hex out yet?

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I was wondering when the reissue series would continue -- so it's Slates and what else? A full CD length Part of America Therein would be grand.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

that one came out in the UK already, also.

― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

:-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

so has anybody heard the new slates yet?

― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I have "Grotesque" and it is an iuncredible remaster from the original tapes, very excellent.

"Slates" is out now in the UK, a couple months I imagine it will be appearing, then a "A Part of America Therein" their 3 or 4th bets live album

"Hex Enduction Hour" is going to be a 2-disc affair and is been pushed back until Jan in the UK, so March or April next yr it should be availble in the US

― chris besinger (chris besinger), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Fantastic to see "Hex" finally being reissued- I hope its gonna be on vinyl too like "Grotesque". Surely someone's got to have more video footage of the 81 US "..Therein" tour - only "Totally Wired" has been made available on the PBL vid.

― neil tacus (tacit), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Why are Cog Sinister/Voiceprint and Castle both remastering/reissuing the same albums a year apart? How are the licensing rights split up there?

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Who knows, but given that Castle is the one actually doing it right, bring it on.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The Castle Grotesque re-issue sucks. The sound drops out of one channel at the start of 'Pay Your Rates', and the added a big fucking gap between 'C'n'C-S Mithering' and 'Container Drivers.

As for Slates, I'm perfectly happy with it paired with APOAT1981, thankyou very much.

― Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

xxxpost: I will tell you that getting footage out of the hands of "filmmakers" is a mighty chore indeed.

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 21 October 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

1998 Castle version of After the Gramme sounds pretty great (if I remember correctly. . . I know I sold my previous CD version once I bought it.) It has 2 or 3 bonus tracks (which are weirdly at the beginning of the CD.) I gotta admit I was pissed when they did those two CD reissues right after I bought the refurbished Live at the Witch Trials and Dragnet.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Sasha that gap's on a lot of the old vinyl presings, too (IE MINE), that cutout sounds fucked tho

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

From the almighty Fall discog at www.visi.com/fall

"Grotesque (After The Gramme)
Rough Trade ROUGH18, November 1980 (LP) [top of page] [lyrics]

Pay Your Rates / English Scheme / New Face In Hell / C'n'C-S Mithering / The Container Drivers / Impression Of J. Temperance / In The Park / W.M.C. - Blob 59 / Gramme Friday / The N.W.R.A.
Reissued 8 November 1993 on Castle on CD (CLACD391).
Reissued 1998 on Cog Sinister/Voiceprint on CD (COGVP106CD) - poorly mastered from vinyl with skips and the start of English Scheme has been trimmed.
Reissued 27 June 1998 on Castle/Essential on CD (ESMCD640) with new artwork & additional tracks: How I Wrote 'Elastic Man' / City Hobgoblins / Totally Wired / Putta Block (from the How I Wrote 'Elastic Man' and Totally Wired singles). City Hobgoblins is not listed on the back cover, tracks numbers go 1, 3, 4, 5 etc.
Reissued October 2002 on Turning Point on 180gm vinyl (TPM02210).
Reissued 15 March 2004 on Castle on CD (CMRCD883) with additional tracks: How I Wrote 'Elastic Man' / City Hobgoblins / Totally Wired / Putta Block (from the How I Wrote 'Elastic Man' and Totally Wired singles) / Mark E Smith Self-Interview 1980. No mastering problems exist on this version.
Reissued 13 September 2004 on Earmark double LP (EAR40038LP), with the same tracklisting as the Castle 2004 CD reissue.

Some editions have a 2-3 second gap between C'n'C-S Mithering and The Container Drivers; other editions run the two tracks together without a gap."

The 1993 Castle re-issue is the best sounding one.

― Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 21 October 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Luckily, that's the one I have.

Is The Fall's reissuing programme the most barmy/shoddy in all history?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 21 October 2004 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

The 98 Grotesque CD I have is terrible.

― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 21 October 2004 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Original vinyl rools then?

The 2003 (or was it early 2004) edition of Dragnet sounds great.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 21 October 2004 07:59 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

"Slates" is rated #9 in rateyourmusic best album of 1981.
its The Fall's highest record rate for any year/record.
is it really that good and deserves the high credit? is it their best effort or 1981 just sucks (Rush is no.1..)

― apo lo, Monday, 29 May 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

maybe not their best, but top 5 for sure. i'm a little bit partial to bend sinister and hex enduction hour over it. but slates IS a great little record.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 03:48 (nineteen years ago)

agreed, one of their best.

― sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

love it, if only for "fit and working again"

― Q('.'Q) (eman), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

Their best!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

Agreed, Slates is v. good plus it's an excellent entry point for the Fall-curious.

The 1993 Castle re-issue is the best sounding one.
-- Sasha (ahmar...), October 20th, 2004.

Quite true. I never really appreciated Grotesque until I picked up the '93 CD on a whim. It's amazing how much mastering problems can affect a record's effectiveness. I was holding out hopes for the 2004 reissue but it sounds like that one's botched as well?

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

unlikely i'll ever buy a reissue when i have the original 10" vinyl, picked up in oxford st in the early 80s. six tracks of genius

― dr x o'skeleton drinks down the alka seltzer, Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

is it really that good and deserves the high credit?

Yes and yes.

― No Ring Goes Like a Ringo Goes (Dada), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

slates is aknf!

― I am ready to kill myself and eat my dog (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

four years pass...

On day 4 of my February "One Fall Studio Album A Day" project, got my first real surprise.

I had a Slates 10" (bought in a NJ strip mall, how it got there I'll never know), but probably bought it around '85, so I was hearing it on the heels of Nation's Saving Grace and Wonderful & Frightening. I'm re-hearing it now, after spending a few days immersed in Witch Trials, Dragnet, Grotesque (and not to say that they're bad or anything) but jesus it's like a tight little explosion after those. Production sounds unbelievable. Really makes me appreciate it much more than I ever did (and I always liked it quite a bit). I think I just bumped it up a few notches in my favorites list...

The reissue I have of Slates 2004 w/bonus tracks sounds a lot better than the version I have w/A Part of America.

And, it's pretty much the same lineup as Grotesque, right? I wonder what the hell happened in between the two.

― dlp9001, Friday, 4 February 2011 21:28 (fourteen years ago)

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