POX 1977 Non-Punk Albums

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I don't normally start this sort of thread either, but just think of it as a form of curious market research.

Ten key albums released in 1977 which could not be categorised as punk or new wave, please.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 25 October 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(Key for me, at least)

Cameo - Cardiac Arrest
Cloud One - Cloud One
Congos - Heart of the Congos
Earth, Wind & Fire - All 'n All
Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
Gil-Scott Heron - Bridges
Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express
Augustus Pablo - East of the River Nile
Rufus - Ask Rufus
Slave - Slave
Steely Dan - Aja

(Two-way tie for 10th)

Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 25 October 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/labels/incus/incusc07.html

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 25 October 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Great list Andy!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Ten posts until this derails into what and what cannot be considered punk.

Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Al Green: The Belle Album
Ornette Coleman: Dancing in Your Head
Fleetwood Mac: Rumours
Parliament: Funkentelechy vs. the Placebo Syndrome
Lynyrd Skynyrd: Street Survivors
The Beach Boys: Love You
Kate & Anna McGarrigle: Dancer with Bruised Knees
Ray Charles: True to Life
Muddy Waters: Hard Again
Peter Tosh: Equal Rights

Not That Chuck, Monday, 25 October 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

X 1977 non-new wave/punk albums from my collection, so key is mostly from a personal point of view, though I'd think some would be considered key in a general kind of way:

ABBA - Arrival
Bowie, David - "Heroes"
Bowie, David - Low
Can - Flow Motion
Cheap Trick
Cluster & Eno
Eno, Brian - Before and After Science
Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express
Pop, Iggy - The Idiot
Pop, Iggy - Lust for Life

Super Willem! (willem), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Eno, Bowie, Kraftwerk and Bowie are all sort of new wave aren't they? At the very least proto-new wave.

Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

um, scratch the second Bowie and replace with Iggy Pop

Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Bowie, David - "Heroes"
Bowie, David - Low
Cluster & Eno
Eno, Brian - Before and After Science
Pop, Iggy - The Idiot

Yeah, these were sorta considered for my list. For some reason, I thought them to be too close. (I'm too groggy to explain.)

Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

that's what i thought might happen, i don't consider them new wave. they'd been around too long at the time to be considered new wave (which was somewhat of a counter "culture" just like punk, was it not?) i think... but, let's not derail this thread

Super Willem! (willem), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

unless it's marcello's intention to spark a thread of punk!/not punk! arguments of course... :)

Super Willem! (willem), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

He's managed to handcuff roughly 90% of the board.

Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

get yr avant-prog on (+ Queen):

Univers Zero - 1313
This Heat - Made Available
Heldon - Interface
Aksak Maboul - Onze Danses Pour Combattre le Migraine
Lard Free - III: Spirale Malax
Archaia - s/t
Magma - Attahk
Jacques Thollot - Resurgence
Etron Fou Leloublan - Batelages
Queen - News of the World

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I gave up after 8...

ELO - Out of the blue
Candi Staton - Young hearts run free
Motorhead - Motorhead
The Enid - In the region of the summer stars
John Martyn - One world
Donna Summer - I remember yesterday
Chic - Chic
Culture - Two sevens clash

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

1.Fleetwood Mac, Rumours
2.AC/DC, Let There Be Rock
3.Parliament, Funkentelechy vs. The Placebo Syndrome
4.Styx, The Grand Illusion
5.John Coltrane, First Meditations (for quartet)
6.Abba, Arrival
7.Saturday Night Fever (OST)
8.Heart, Little Queen
9.Donna Summer, Once Upon A Time...
10.Blue Oyster Cult, Spectres

Note: If half-albums were eligible, Side One of Bowie's Low woulda made the list. (Presuming it's not considered new wave.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

you dislike side two that much, myonga?

Super Willem! (willem), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

10 not mentioned yet:

Bob Marley & the Wailers - Exodus
Blondie - s/t
Blondie - Plastic Letters
Pleasure - Joyous
Andrew Gold - What's Wrong With This Picture?
Jackson Browne - Running on Empty
Randy Newman - Little Criminals
Colosseum II - Electric Savage
The Muppets - The Muppet Show
Yes - Going For The One

and if Blondie are considered punk, substitute:
Peter Gabriel - s/t
Jean-Michel Jarre - Oxygene

Jeff W (zebedee), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

blondie are penk as feck

p.j. (Henry), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Motorhead were often mistaken for Punks (sonically). Iggy Pop counts as Punk, I'd say.

Love Gun by Kiss
Alive II by Kiss
News of the World by Queen
Animals by Pink Floyd
Draw the Line by Aerosmith
Funkentelechy... by Parliament
Live by Status Quo
Bad Reputation by Thin Lizzy
Cat Scratch Fever by Ted Nugent
Saturday Night Fever - soundtrack

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 October 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Caetano Veloso "Bicho"
Fela Kuti "Shuffering & Shmiling"
Cedric I.M. Brooks "The Light of Saba"
Culture "Two Sevens Clash"
Gilberto Gil "Refavala"
Augustus Pablo "East of the River Nile"
Junior Murvin "Police & Theives"
Horace Andy "In the Light"
Willie Nelson "To Lefty From Willie"
Cheap Trick "In Color"

Billy, Monday, 25 October 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

There's not enough Al Green love on this thread.

Not That Chuck, Monday, 25 October 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Chic
Rumours
Before And After Science
Love For Sale
(Boney M)
Barry White Sings For Someone You Love
Trans-Europe Express
Saturday Night Fever
A Farewell To Kings
(Rush)
Aja
Complete Thom Bell Sessions
(Elton John)

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I can only do Key To Me.

  • Kraftwerk: Trans-Europe Express
  • Meat Loaf: Bat Out Of Hell
  • Tom Waits: Foreign Affairs
  • David Bowie: Low or Heroes or whichever it was in 77
  • Fela & Afrika 70: Zombie
  • John Cale: Guts
  • ZZ Top: Tejas
  • John Martyn: One World
  • Willie Colon & Ruben Blades: Metiendo Mano
  • Leonard Cohen: Death Of A Ladies' Man
  • In case it helps with the mysterious market research, here are some 1977 albums I'd like to hear: Dancing in Your Head; North Star; Equal Rights; Yes, We Have No Mananas; Street Survivors; Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome; Dancer With Bruised Knees.

    Acme (acme), Monday, 25 October 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

    In case it helps with the mysterious market research, here are some 1977 albums I'd like to hear: Dancing in Your Head; North Star; Equal Rights; Yes, We Have No Mananas; Street Survivors; Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome; Dancer With Bruised Knees.

    ...in other words, Not That Chuck's list. The posts certainly came in thick and fast while I was ruminating, so apologies for redundancy! (And for missing out Rod.)

    Acme (acme), Monday, 25 October 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

    I LOVE ME SOME 1977

    JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 25 October 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

    1. Culture - Two Sevens Clash
    2. Congos - Heart Of The Congos
    3. Al Green - The Belle Album
    4. OV Wright - The Wright Stuff
    5. David Bowie - Heroes
    6. Trammps - Trammps III
    7. Iggy Pop - Lust For Life
    8. Mahlathini - King of the Groaners
    9. U Roy - Rasta Ambassador
    10. Candi Staton - Young Hearts Run Free

    Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 25 October 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

    boney m - love for sale
    cerrone - supernature
    fleetwood mac - rumours
    foreigner - foreigner
    hot chocolate - xiv greatest hits
    santa esmeralda - don't let me be misunderstood
    starz - violation
    donna summer - i remember yesterday
    donna summer - once upon a time
    saturday night fever (soundtrack)

    chuck, Monday, 25 October 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

    Personally speaking (my listenings are by no means comprehensive for albums of this year; plus, no real order here, though the top 4 listed are closest to my heart):

    Dennis Wilson - Pacific Ocean Blue
    Brian Eno - Before and After Science
    John Martyn - One World (a little surprised not to see this on more lists)
    Harry Nilsson - Knnillssonn (i seriously do love this; marvellous epitaph to the main part of his career: love the cavernous, world-weary ballads; 'Perfect Day' is astonishingly moving, his voice miraculously rejuvenated after the last few albums, if still rougher hewn than 'twas circa "Aerial Ballet" etc. And also I must express appreciation for that lunatic ode to "The Laurel-Hardy Murder Case", 'Who Done It?', with its witty string arrangement, and vocal non sequiturs)
    Donna Summer - Once Upon A Time (a divine disco 'musical')
    Beach Boys - Love You
    Electric Light Orchestra - Out of the Blue (not quite up to the Roy Wood-involved debut, or "Eldorado", but a very fine record)
    Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express (easy call, but profoundly a right one; bit of an influence on Post-Punk's synth-heavier excursions, like "Low")
    David Bowie - Low
    Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
    ABBA - The Album

    Tom May (Tom May), Monday, 25 October 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

    Looking at the albums on this list gets me thinking...

    Thank fuck for punk and new wave!

    Sasha (sgh), Monday, 25 October 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

    I'll add these:

    Garland Jeffreys, Ghost Writer
    Fela and Afrika 70, Sorrow Tears and Blood
    Ray Charles, True to Life
    Joe Ely, Joe Ely
    Charles Mingus, Three or Four Shades of Blues
    maybe Gil Scott-Heron and Brian Jackson, It's Your World
    Pete Townshend and Ronnie Lane, Rough Mix
    Philip Glass, North Star
    James Taylor, JT (God, I feel so boring)
    [whatever I'm forgetting]

    Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 25 October 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

    X-post

    No, Willen, I don't hate Side Two of Low at all - I like it somewhat, but not enough for it to have made my top 20 (if it were released on its own). As it is, it weighs down Side One just enough to demote the LP to #16 or so. (Again, assuming it's not considered new wave.)

    Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 09:24 (twenty-one years ago)

    I assume Elvis Costello, Ian Dury, Dr. Feelgood and Graham Parker would all fail the “punk / new wave” test?

    David Bowie – Heroes
    David Bowie – Low
    Black Uhuru – Black Sounds Of Freedom
    Burning Spear – Dry And Heavy
    Ornette Coleman – Dancing In Your Head
    Congos – Heart Of The Congos
    Culture – Two Sevens Clash
    Brian Eno – Before & After Science
    Kraftwerk – Trans Europe Express
    Junior Murvin – Police And Thieves
    Poet And The Roots (Linton Kwesi Johnson) – Dread, Beat An’ Blood
    Steely Dan – Aja
    U Roy - Rasta Ambassador
    Tom Waits – Foreign Affairs
    Yes – Going For The One

    Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

    This Heat - Made Available

    ... made available but not in 1977. Also This Heat were "new wave" or sumthin'.

    What did you do in the war, Dadaismus? (Dada), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

    This Heat fall into that embarrassing little category of bands that somehow inexplicably managed to be Post Punk before Punk had actually happened.

    Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

    They didn't release any records before punk happened.

    What did you do in the war, Dadaismus? (Dada), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

    True, but there is still recorded evidence!

    Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

    Fwiw, I believe some of the recordings that were released on "Made Available" were from John Pel sessions that were first broadcast in 1977.

    Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

    were from John Pel sessions

    On today of all days.

    Acme (acme), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

    Is that "On today of all days.... John Peel's vast and wide-ranging influence on music was being quietly recognised yet again"; or "On today of all days that Osborne pratt managed to spell John Peel's simple-enough sodding name wrong"?

    Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

    It was the latter, but let's make it the former.

    Acme (acme), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

    seven years pass...

    Anyone have anything to add to this thread 7 years later?

    I'm offering Goblin - Suspiria. What an album!

    these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Saturday, 27 October 2012 03:59 (thirteen years ago)

    Yes - Going for the One
    Can - Saw Delight
    Elvis Costello - My Aim is True (he's not really in his "new wave" phase yet is he?
    Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene
    Parliament - Funkentelechy vs. the Placebo Syndrome
    Pete Hammill - Over
    Tangerine Dream - Encore
    Sparks - Introducing Sparks

    I guess I only got 8

    frogbs, Saturday, 27 October 2012 04:02 (thirteen years ago)

    Some records I listened to a lot in 1977:

    Steve Miller Band - Book of Dreams
    The Tubes - Now
    Be Bop Deluxe - Live In The Air Age
    Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel - Face To Face, A Live Recording

    As a longtime Sparks fan, I hated Introducing Sparks when I first heard it, and didn't end up buying it until years later to fill in my collection. I've softened on it a bit, but it's still far from a favorite.

    Sex Kitten mind control slave (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 27 October 2012 12:25 (thirteen years ago)

    Def listened to Rumours a ton, too.

    Sex Kitten mind control slave (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 27 October 2012 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

    I'd just barely heard of punk rock in 1977, and I'd only been buying albums for a year or so. I was curious as to what I bought at the time, so I quickly scrolled through Rate Your Music's big list: Jethro Tull's Songs for the Wood, Gentle Giant's Playing the Fool, Neil's Stars 'n Bars, and Max Webster's High Class in Borrowed Shoes. We all have a past.

    clemenza, Saturday, 27 October 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

    I'm just going to post random 77 favorites until maybe I reach 10

    Popol Vuh, Herz aus glas/Heart of Glass

    these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)

    Alice Coltrane - Transcendence
    Jon Hassell - Vernal Equinox

    Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

    Manuel Gottsching - Blackouts

    Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)


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