Stupidest Political Lyric?

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Popstars aren't usually the smartest people ever and when they try their hand at political comment, the broad side of the barn usually remains unscathed! (Oh, if anyone's choice of 'stupid' lyrics make sense to somebody, feel free to say so! It'll start acrimonious political arguments)

dave q, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My favorite, from Grand Funk Railroad's "People, Let's Stop the War" - "If we had a President who did just what he said/ The country would be just alright, and no one would be dead"! (I won't even start on the second line, but the first - that was written when NIXON was in power, what would you say about Dubya? NOBODY can figure out 'just what he said', even himself half the time!)

dave q, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The collected works of Dolores Cranberry.

K Nakerzyiad, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

War, war is stupid And people are stupid And love means nothing In some strange quarters.

DV, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

How dare you, DV? That line speaks to me on so many levels.

N., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Men keep marching off to war
Electrically, they keep a baseball score

Sonny Bono, "The Beat Goes On." A couplet that signaled the end of my innocence.

Mark, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jewel: "In the end, only kindness matters."

Only tangentially related to the topic at hand: Did anyone else hear the Pierre Boulez was recently arrested at an airport for proclaiming that all opera houses should be burned down?

charlie va, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nicky Wire's assertion that South Wales councils considered systemised atrocity perfectly acceptable as long as they had bilingual road signs in areas where nobody could speak Welsh.

And, from the same song, "liposuction for your bad mouth, boy / cut out your tongue, effigies are sold" imagery so luridly sensational in a supposedly political song that even the Daily Sport might have thought twice about invoking it.

And "Europe's gravestone carved in plastic".

There's a lot more where those came from ...

Robin Carmody, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

How about The Legend!'s "Melt The Guns"?

electric sound of jim, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ahhh... Nicky Wire. "If I can shoot rabbits, then I can shoot fascists"..

electric sound of jim, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was refraining from it... but I have to mention the *new* MC Hammer single again where he repeatedly croaks "USA America RESPECT US!" as if somebody was listening. The way he says it the "us" may as well be a "me".

Honda, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Melt The Guns" - is this an XTC cover?

The rabbits/fascists thing is an ace lyric and also isn't Nicky Wire's ('s a quote). The title of that song ("If You Tolerate This...") is much sillier - tolerate WHAT Nicky??

XTC's "The Smartest Monkeys" is perhaps the smuggest political song, like many political tracks it's against everything that nobody could possibly be in favour of and nothing else. It marries this stance to a lame evolutionary metaphor and pats itself on the back for three minutes accordingly.

Tom, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I didn't know that Jewel's "Hands" was all that political - it could be a Neutrogena jingle, for all I know.

While it's not that specifically political, Husker Du's "Turn On The News" (which I always heard as "Turn OFF The News") rubs me a very wrong way. It's a decent enough song, but the lyrics ("With all this uptight pushin' & shovin' / Keeps us away from who we're lovin'") sound like stuff hippies would laugh at. (Of course, this song is enshrined in the R&R Hall of Fame, wahoo.) I'm more partial to "Newest Industry", where the lyrics (while not that topical nowadays - or aren't they?) actually say something. (It's something along the lines of "governments are evil, piss off", but, hell, it's a convincing argument, and it RAWKS, woo.)

David Raposa, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A Propagandhi song - "Fuck zionism. Fuck militarism. Fuck americanism. Fuck nationalism. Fuck religion."

Ben, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Mayhaps" *again*!

We must have a Catweazle fan here, surely? Or just a medievalist?

Robin Carmody, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Propagahdi have several such winners. The speech at the end of One Speed Bikes cd is pretty damm dumbfounded too me thinks.

Mr Noodles, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm sure it's something by Billy Bragg. Or maybe just most annoying political lyric.

Ally C, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oingo Boingo's lousy 8-minute tune "Insanity"

"Christian nation, assimilate me/Take me in your arms and set me free/ I am part of a degenerate elite/Dragging our society into the street/ Into the abyss and to the sewer don't you see/The man just told me, he told me on TV"

Oingo Boingo's "No Spill Blood", awful, the song written by every 15- year-old boy who just read his first Orwell novel.

"The rules are written in the stone/Break the rules and you get no bones/All you get is ridicule, laughter/And a trip to the house of pain!"

You get no bones? WTF?

Oingo Boingo's "Burn Me Up" "Who do I have to go and kill to get my face on a dollar bill?"

1 1 2 3 5, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The title of that song ("If You Tolerate This...") is much sillier - tolerate WHAT Nicky??

Silly boy, Tom, *that's* a quote too. It's actually a very blunt, moving appeal taken from a propaganda poster by the Republican side in the Spanish Civil War that was posted in England at the time of the conflict -- I stumbled across it last year in the Tate Modern. The main photo shows the body of a baby killed in bombing, possibly Guernica. The 'this' becomes all too painfully obvious as a result (and arguably that prediction came all too true with WWII...). So you can knock him for that title, at least -- the use of it, perhaps, but still.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I should say, *can't* knock him, etc.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Woman is the nigger of the world/if you don't believe me just take a look at the one you're with ... "

HEY! Thanks a lot, John Lennon (and Yoko too, I presume, for running down all our women. (This song was written by the same two people who had an entire apartment building in the Dakota to STORE THEIR FUR COAT COLLECTION. So perhaps I should also mention "imagine no possessions ..." ?)

John Sutcliffe, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

what's that oingo boingo song about the socialist kid? that's pretty bad too. why is danny elfman a conservative?

ethan, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Did anyone else hear the Pierre Boulez was recently arrested at an airport for proclaiming that all opera houses should be burned down?

Yep, it's true, sort of -- can't find the link, but the story goes that he was dragged out of his Swiss hotel room (not an airport) and submitted to a couple hours of questioning before the Polizei got their heads out of their bottoms. The proclamation in question, by the way, was made OVER THIRTY YEARS AGO!

Jefferson Airplane's self-titled 1989 reunion album, btw, is a gold mine of dumb political lyrics. "Political men they burn their lives out talkin' / We people of the earth just keep on walkin'" and "Well they're much too old to care about the future / They're sewing up the past with shining sutures", just for starters...

Phil, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was always highly amused by New Model Army's strong simple messages. Such as, I believe in justice, I believe in vengeance, I believe in killing the bastards. Magic! An Australian friend once send to me: What? You don't like Midnight Oil?! Don't you like political music? ...Says it all really.

Daniel, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Bosses don't like workers because they don't work hard / Workers don't like bosses because they give them work / Workers they take tea breaks then they go on strike / Bosses [lose their profits?] and bosses get annoyed" - "Everybody Thinks Everybody Else Is Dead Bad" - The Skodas

Maybe Madonna could cover this one?

Tim, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Anything by the Cranberries. Here's a perfecit example:

Another head hangs lowly Child is slowly taken And the violence caused such silence Who are we mistaken

But you see it's not me, It's not my family In your head, in your head they are fighting With their tanks and their bombs And their bombs and their guns In your head In your head they are cryin' In your head Zombie What's in your head, in your head Zombie

Another mother's breakin' Heart is taking over When the violence causes silence We must be mistaken It's the same old theme since 1916 In your head, In your head they're still fightin' With their tanks and their bombs And their bombs and their guns In your head they are dyin'

In your head, in your head Zombie What's in your head, in your head Zombie

Could've been easily written by a mildly intelligent 5 year old. I'm not even going to mention that song about drug use or the one about abortion. Even worse--if that's possible.

cybele, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've been enjoying 'Soul Deep' by The Council Collective just lately:

'Where is the backing from the TUC?'

is a high point.

Peter Miller, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'why is danny elfman a conservative?'

Maybe because he doesn't want to spend his hard-earned money in tax benefits to crack ho's! Or something.

dave q, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...
revive

adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

WHERE IS THAT LE TIGRE THREAD

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"Respect Yourself"

Keep talking about the president won't stop air pollution/
Put your hand over your mouth when you cough/
That'll help the solution

That is just plain dumb on so many levels

mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

search: every one of Violent Femmes' somewhat political songs (ie. "Old Mother Reagan" and "I'm Nothing," for instance)

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't need no politician, tell me things I shouldn't know
Neither no optician, tell me what I ought to see

Eddie and the Hot-Rods "Do anything you wanna do"

Soukesian, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Sham 69 pwns this thread:

Look at that man lying in the street
I don't think that's the place to sleep
The government say you can't do that
But nobody's saying where's it at

You don't care, you don't hear, you don't speak
You don't feel it anymore
And it's not what you're fighting for

Big bad wolf come and knock on my door
Big bad wolf didn't like what he saw
The government say you can't do that
And nobody's saying where's it at

You don't care, you don't hear, you don't speak
You don't feel it anymore
And it's not what you're fighting for

Everybody talks about revolution
But some of us know

You don't care, you don't hear, you don't speak
You don't feel it anymore
And it's not what you're fighting for

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it worse to have a political lyric that's obscure and forgettable, such as "Pills and Soap", or one that's hamfisted and embarassing, such as that new Beastie Boys song everyone hates?

Maxwell von Bismarck (maxwell von bismarck), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

It's worse to have anything hamfisted.

On the other hand that B-Boys song hasn't been around long enough for us to know how forgettable it's gonna ultimately be.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

'Cause George W's got nothing on me
We got to take the power from he


Tells it like it is.

Maxwell von Bismarck (maxwell von bismarck), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Dumbest from this year is probably "What If We All Stop Paying Taxes?," a single by soul revivalist Sharon Jones. My all time fave though, might be the Staple Singers, from "Respect Yourself": "Put your hand on your mouth when you cough, that'll help the solution."

chuck, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

This Britny Fox one is wacky, too:

Save the Weak (5:30)
D. Davidson

Take a look at what you have, and the things you own.
And thank God that you've grown.
Children starving and lonely, no place to go.
I really feel that there's hope.

Feelin bad I'm feelin sad, let's lend a helping hand.

Oh save, oh save, save the weak.
With a little love, that's all they need.

All the love in your heart and the love inside.
A people cruel and cold yeah.
Children starving and lonely, no place to go.
I really feel that there's hope.

chuck, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

(oops, just noticed that somebody beat me to the staple singers one, sorry!)

chuck, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Then again I never understood whether that one Rage Against the Machine song about a pocket full of shells was protesting pockets or shells or what, either.

chuck, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I always thought "Pocket Fulla Shells" was like one of those Hot Pockets microwave meals, only full of that shell-shaped pasta. So like, "Rally 'round the family" was talking about fighting against world hunger with Pockets Fulla Shells.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"Fuck you I won't do what you tell me."

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Christ, Radio 4 to thread ASAfuckin'P

MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Stop this....WAAAAAAAAARR!!!" (repeat ad nauseum)

-Op Ivy

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"The country's getting ugly and there's more in store
/ But don't blame me cause I voted for Gore" - Northern State

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

the staple singers??? I thought that was a bruce willis original hoot na na.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Both of those Rage songs are sort of weird in terms of how sensationalist and totally non-specific they are, given how much of a point the band made of addressing specific issues. They could just as easily be sci-fi stories. That said, "Killing In the Name" is an amazing noise-rock track, even if nothing else was so great.

How about these from soon-to-be crusader for righteousness Ian MacKaye?:

I'm sorry. For something I didn't do.
Lynched somebody but I don't know who.
You blame me for slavery. A hundred years before I was born.

Guilty of being white.

I'm a convict of a racist crime.
I've only served 19 years of my time.

Or White Lion's succinct:

No more Presidents/And all the wars will end

Admittedly "Youth Against Fascism" could do pretty well too.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"I hope the Russians love their children, too"

in fact, Our Favorite Shop's lyrics don't hold up well, but not a lot of that period's lyrics do (hello, Redskins!), and that's not really the point (though I might just be defensive 'cause I heart Manics). Radio 4 means well trying to fuse politics back into distressed white-boy funk, but they gotta quit giving interviews that rail against the meaninglessness of all other current dance music. Umm...it's late and I'm too inarticulate to be posting but unfortunately it's not stopping me

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

The Redskins was great. message ends.

Also. The staple singers' one is a metaphor for 'pollution starts with yourself' i.e. clean up your own act before etc...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

you all forget "the lebanon"!

and where there used to be some shops
is where the snipers sometimes hide

a brave attempt at bringing home the problems of the middle east. sung in slightly-out-of-tune harmony. but all in all a terrible, knuckle-biting embarrassment of a line.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter"

WELL THANK YOU BOBBY GILLESPIE - YOU HAVE REALLY OPENED MY EYES WITH THIS STRIKINGLY ORIGINAL INSIGHT OF YOURS.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

eve of destruction by barry mcguire. he rhymes "red china" with "selma, alabama' as in: "look at all the hate there is in red china, then take a look around to selma, alabama."
that song is filled with howlers from start to finish, really, with perhaps the worst being: "my blood's so mad, feels like coagulatin', i'm sittin' here just contemplatin', this crazy world's just so frustratin.'"

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

re Bobby Gillespie - the fact that he precedes the above line with
'The Queen of England, there's no greater anarchist'
Makes it even better.

bham, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Anybody remember this? Rick Astley, in a black-and-white desert:

"People dyin' (grins, flashes teeth, almost winks),
In the street;
They don't have, No food to eat"

I actually fell off the FLOOR laughing.

But even this has nothing on:

"I see liberals
I am just their fashion accessory"

or pretty much anything else by that despicable twat.

rwillmsen (rwillmsen), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

No one knows if there's UFO's or any life on Mars
Or what they do when they up in the stars
Because I don't believe a word of what the president said

-Dead Prez: "Propaganda"

The song in itself isn't a bad one, but that particular lyric struck me as an really silly one. Yes, the racist president is part of a conspiracy that doesn't want you to find out there's life in Mars... Black and green power!

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Ghostface's talk on 'Rules' - how exactly is shooting down a plane over his hood going to help anything?

Pikmin, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"Meat is Murder" is way up there (I usually skipped the track even when the album came out -- and that involved, y'know, lifting the needle).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"I see liberals
I am just their fashion accessory"

Who IS that???

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

it's them bleedin' manics, innit? although i thought it was "a" fashion accessory, mind.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

(either way, it's still jizz.)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

How did I know you'd mention "The Lebanon" Simon.

KeithW (kmw), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Belle and Sebastian:

If you’re going off to war then I wish you well
But don’t be sore
If I cheer the other team

Well, I'm sure Viktor Yanukovich will bear your support in mind.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post

my predictability is just part of my charm ;)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)


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