What do you reckon of SCOTW, aka Foetus, aka Jim Foetus, aka Jim Thirwell?
I've only get the Hole and Nail albums, and a remix of Andre Williams/JSBX's 'Lapdance, all of which I reckon is great.
Any further recommendations?
Anyone know what he's up to now?
― Sasha on a different PC, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:29 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:01 (twenty years ago)
― everything, Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:25 (twenty years ago)
― bulbs (bulbs), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:28 (twenty years ago)
― anode (anode), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:32 (twenty years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:38 (twenty years ago)
Anyone heard that Baby Zizane album that came out last year?
― everything, Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:46 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:49 (twenty years ago)
Favorite Foetus tune: "Bedrock"Runner-up: "Free James (so he can run me down)"
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:01 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:02 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:04 (twenty years ago)
― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:04 (twenty years ago)
Wash It All Off
I'll Meet You in Poland, Baby
Wiseblood LP
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:08 (twenty years ago)
― Sami Jheryllkanyga, Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:40 (twenty years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:42 (twenty years ago)
I didn't much like Deaf or Ache and never really went much further..
― Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Thursday, 4 November 2004 08:27 (twenty years ago)
― bulbs (bulbs), Thursday, 4 November 2004 09:17 (twenty years ago)
Nail is the classic, though Thaw is particularly gruesome and makes a lot of appearances even now
yes Gash was ace (the mad jazz of Slung is a highlight), despite it getting a little to close to industrial stereotyping for much of the 60 mins, though the spinoff Null ep with remixes was far more concise and enjoyable, but the latest album Flow was seriously back on form with his mutant horns and dark fun. which was remixed to death by various electronica folks for Blow (Young Gods, DJ Food, Amon Tombin being my faves of this set)
recently though he has been discovering the inner workings of his laptop with Manorexia (??) and i have to admit i aint heard that yet.
new Foetus stuff on its way i hear 'Love'
Story : London T&C (1986) - Thaw release - backing band The Swans.
Jim was getting seriously wound up by some kid in the full on mosh pit, the bass monster from the Swans (??) - A LARGE man - also giving ugly gesticulations to said people in the mosh was slapping the bass sooo hard that a string snapped and recoiled around his finger, he than pulled his finger out of the coil string only to create a spray of blood. naturally he continued pounding the instrumnent to the gorebeat.
within a few minutes Jim jumped into the moshpit and started beating the shit out of somebody before climbing back on stage.
not a note was missed.
it was the most intense gig of my life. whether it was staged or not.i suspect not.
avoid Boil, not a good live album, especially up against the excellent Male live cd.
enjoy.
― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:13 (twenty years ago)
― Braces Tower, Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:19 (twenty years ago)
As an introduction, the Foetus live album 'Male' is pretty much untouchable for beginners. It has pretty damn great versions of my favourite Foetus songs ("I'll Meet You In Poland, Baby", "Butterfly Potion", "English Faggot", "Someone Drowned In My Pool", "Free James Brown") and two astonishing covers ("Faith Healer" and "Behemoth"), aligned with probably the best backing band Thirlwell ever had (Kizys, David Ouimet, Norman Westerberg).
Studio albums: 'Nail' and 'Hole' are the two real essentials, and the Wiseblood album.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 4 November 2004 11:22 (twenty years ago)
'hole' is a total masterpiece. totally changed my life. 'ache' has actually aged really well, much better than i'd have thought it would.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 4 November 2004 14:02 (twenty years ago)
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 4 November 2004 14:25 (twenty years ago)
a perfect evenings entertainment.
bloke next to me was On something .. naked from waste up .. girating constantly .. as if at a Rave .. weird as fuck considering the noise being made by the band.
one freaky time.
only to be followed up by wearing the Foetus Interruptus T-shirt in Leeds a few days later - and being accosted by some girl that it was appalling ..
― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 4 November 2004 15:15 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:19 (twenty years ago)
― everything, Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:22 (twenty years ago)
― Stephen Boyle (SBoyle), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:26 (twenty years ago)
How the hell did I remember all those lyrics?
HEEEEEEELLLLLLLO operator give me no-man's landCollect call to no one at allBeen yellin' into an empty closetTo the point of no return and no deposit
killer stuff.
― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:12 (eighteen years ago)
― John Cougar Mellencamp sucks and you know it (Bimble...), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:15 (eighteen years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:28 (eighteen years ago)
(xpost)
― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago)
― third uncle (davemotion), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago)
Where next? Gash, Flow or Nail?
― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:18 (eighteen years ago)
WHEN YOU'RE DESTINED TO LIVE IN A STREET OF SHAME!
oOOH ah, DESTINED, destined to live in a street of shame,
STREET OF SHAME
― John Cougar Mellencamp sucks and you know it (Bimble...), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago)
Sounds like a good idea, following the discography back in time like that. LOVE is very different from the older albums, and if you follow that order the trip back could be (slightly) easier, I think.
― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 7 October 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 7 October 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago)
― everything (everything), Sunday, 8 October 2006 05:17 (eighteen years ago)
― Edward III (edward iii), Sunday, 8 October 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago)
I've probably listened to my 12" of "Wash It All Off" about 3000 times over the years, but today is a great day because I finally heard the original 7" version from 1982. Ha-ha. That is totally off the hook. What a treat. I love him all over again now.
― everything, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 00:18 (eighteen years ago)
Seriously, the period from 84 - 87 when he released not only "Hole" and "Nail" but also "Calamity Crush", "Wash It All Off", "Finely Honed Machine", "Bedrock" and "Ramrod". Just.....whew! Fucking amazing. Absolutely fucking amazing.
― everything, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 00:27 (eighteen years ago)
yup, that was an amazing period. got to add 'motorslug' and 'dirtdish' too.
i couldn't find them at the time but have subsequently and also really love the early records- 'spite your face', 'custom built for capitalism', 'wash it all off' (7"), 'tell me what is the bane of your life', 'deaf' and 'ache'.
i wonder whatever happened to the proposed foetus on the beach triple lp and 2nd f.a.t. 12"?
FORTHCOMING RELEASES ON SELF IMMOLATION/SOME BIZZARE & ASSOCIATED PRODUCT
WOMB FGH 12.8: YOU'VE GOT FOETUS ON YOUR BREATH "Wash It All Off"/"Today I Started Slogging Again" - 12 45rpm ( Jan '85 )
WOMB UNC12.7 FOETUS UBER FRISCO "Finely Honed Machine"/"Sick Minutes" - 12" 45rpm ( Jan '85 )
WISEBLOOD ( featuring CLINT RUIN of SFOTW & ROLI MOSIMANN of SWANS ) "Motor-slug"/"Death Rape 2000" ( on K422 ) - 12" 45rpm ( Feb '85 )
"THE FOETUS OF EXCELLENCE" - EMPTY BOX/ T SHIRT ( Feb '85 )
FOETUS ART TERRORISM: 2nd twelve inch - ( Mid '85 )
SCRAPING FOETUS OFF THE WHEEL: 2nd L.P. - ( Mid '85 )
WOMB 6T33: "FOETUS ON THE BEACH" - triple L.P. ( Late '89‡ )
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 01:01 (eighteen years ago)
all early Foetus rules, yes. the singles are great, both early albums also excellent. Thirsty Ear reissued them on CD some years back.
don't forget the Foetus Of Excellence T-shirt!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 04:57 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah I forgot about the Motorslug 12" - a work of genius, obviously. What a guy!
I have to get those first two albums sometime. I wanted them for years but when they were reissued I'd kind of moved on and it wasn't so urgent anymore. But I'll pick them up someday.
― everything, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 06:07 (eighteen years ago)
ahh motorslug. but seriously - who can listen to Death Rape 2000 all the way through ? the lead track is just sheer class, but i never manage to make it all the way through the flip. 12" came with a great comic as well .. agree - this really was an amazing period in Jims career. the Dirtdish cd version is totally worth tracking down, just for the different versions of Someone drowned in my pool (surely one of the funniest/darkest tracks ever ?), and the genius that was Stumbo. Ahh the days I used to wear my dayglo orange/pink Savage Pencil Stumbo T-shirt and revel in the disbelieving stares, whereas now its banned to the archive as my wife refuses to be seen out in public with me wearing it. Naturally, he fell in for the Sony dollar, and things were never quite the same again, though the internet only album Damp seems to have some cracking stuff on it, once i get back into the Foetus mood.
― mark e, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 07:29 (eighteen years ago)
who can listen to Death Rape 2000 all the way through ?
Weah, what a headache. David Gedge once chose it in a list of his favourite records along with Spike Milligan's Tape Recorder by the Membranes so he must have an ear for such things. They even played a little bit of it on the radio.
― everything, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:19 (eighteen years ago)
Who knew Dave Gedge liked Foetus!
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 23 August 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)
have to admit my head was spun a little by that fact.
― mark e, Thursday, 23 August 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)
I've been on a Foetus kick for the last few days. The timelessness of these recordings is astounding. The absence of band photos or videos, combined with the facts that he's always been difficult to pigeonhole AND the superb quality of the recordings means they could have been released anytime in the last 30 years. Things like "Diabolus in Musica" or "Sick Minutes" sound so contemporary alonside groups like Battles, for instance.
― everything, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)
I'm not surprised David Gedge likes Foetus & the Membranes - apparently the name The Wedding Present was inspired by his being a fan of the Birthday Party.
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)
And the early Weddoes stuff was super-intense too.
Currently listening to Stereoid Maximus's "Gondwanaland". Wild. And GROOVY!
― everything, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)
Along with everybody else, I just fucking LOVE the mid-to-late-80s Foetus stuff. Esp Nail, but the singles and side projex too. Fucking Wiseblood! Amazing music and the lyrics are even better. Stuck in that "confrontational" 80s fake tough guy mode, but still so smart, funny, self-lacerating and perversely joyful. I like how he frames the stereotypical pigfuck tropes as 40s hard-boiled noir. Gives it a big wink and makes the nihilist mutilation angle seem a lot less pretentious. Damn fine producer of other folks' music, too (Boss Hog, etc.).
― Bob Standard, Thursday, 23 August 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)
ember ember
― StanM, Thursday, 1 September 2022 07:19 (three years ago)
too soon for a "me and putin, we just signed..." remake
― StanM, Thursday, 1 September 2022 07:21 (three years ago)
Best use of a Fairlight in music history
― ol' flint-eyes is back (Matt #2), Thursday, 1 September 2022 08:36 (three years ago)
A live chamber music version, from 2019:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkbh0XAsI8
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 1 September 2022 11:23 (three years ago)
i was meant to see the ensemble thing in london a couple of years back, but covid etc.
oh, and the picture jim has posted today could have been taken this week.
― mark e, Thursday, 1 September 2022 17:14 (three years ago)
boom!
seconded on best use of a fairlight.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:41 (three years ago)
Wasn't Calamity Crush/Catastrophe Crunch done on a Fairlight?
― everything, Friday, 2 September 2022 03:12 (three years ago)
it 100% sounds like it was.
all the orchestral stuff on "nail" too.
― stirmonster, Friday, 2 September 2022 10:10 (three years ago)
Couple nights ago...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGN7_j7uG3o
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 2 September 2022 10:28 (three years ago)
The instrumental at the start of Nail is so lovely
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 2 September 2022 20:36 (three years ago)
another year another love
― Change display name in my last (onimo), Saturday, 3 September 2022 00:16 (three years ago)
Thirwell is done with releasing physical media isn't he? I should probably get what CDs I can afford right now if they're never coming out again
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 3 September 2022 00:38 (three years ago)
I think he mentioned that a CD of Archer music was coming later this year. And he released a 40th anniversary white vinyl version of Ache.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 3 September 2022 00:51 (three years ago)
nice, missed that Ache reissue but I have an OG LP and reissue CD already, always nice to see it out there again. Ache is so great and has my single favorite song of his ("Gums Bleed")
― sleeve, Saturday, 3 September 2022 01:17 (three years ago)
Gums Bleed available only on Apple Music almost makes me have an Apple Music account only for this
― fpsa, Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:07 (three years ago)
Thirwell is done with releasing physical media isn't he?
interesting.has he actually said this anywhwere ?
― mark e, Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:36 (three years ago)
in foetus related news : i once ordered a cd from him and it came with a signed sticker.fast forward years later, and could i find that sticker anywhere ?i scoured this place from top to bottom for weeks once i had it in my head that i had to find it.i gave up.then a couple of weeks back i decided to check out my Motorslug 12" with comic (wanted to look at the artwork etc) .. and yeah, the sticker dropped out of the comic.
― mark e, Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:39 (three years ago)
I just have a memory of him and Jarboe saying they wouldn't be releasing physical media anymore. Can't recall sources
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:50 (three years ago)
put GASH on cos of this nudge.damn, SLUNG is insanely fantastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnn-L1utCS8
― mark e, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:30 (three years ago)
This interview is from 2020 but he said he has 9 albums in the works! And he lived with Keith Allen!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdVxXt4zbqY
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 5 September 2022 21:23 (three years ago)
And he lived with Keith Allen!
Which is likely why he appeared briefly in The Bullshitters.
― visiting, Monday, 5 September 2022 21:30 (three years ago)
It's about time for Mortaring Foetus Back on the Wheel I think.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Monday, 5 September 2022 21:38 (three years ago)
that soft cell appearance is soemething else. I really loved the soft cell set in SF but this would have put it over the top.
― akm, Monday, 5 September 2022 21:48 (three years ago)
He also says there will be a final concluding Foetus album.
The last few Xordox and Thirlwell albums have been on CD so either I misremembered or he changed his mind
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 5 September 2022 21:56 (three years ago)
Best cameo ever. Nice if he could have been the centre of The Yob instead of UB40 as well
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 5 September 2022 21:59 (three years ago)
What day is it????
― stirmonster, Friday, 1 September 2023 00:33 (two years ago)
TEMBATEMBATEMBATEMBA
― visiting, Tuesday, August 31, 2021 10:39 PM (two years ago)
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 1 September 2023 00:38 (two years ago)
We have ways of making you talk
― Kim Kimberly, Friday, 1 September 2023 00:40 (two years ago)
WELL I GAVE YOU A LOT OF SLACKBUT ALL I GET FROM YOU IS FLAK-AK-AK-AK-AK-AK-AK-AK-AK-AK-AK-AK-AK
― do I really have to quote bowling for soup at you? (Matt #2), Friday, 1 September 2023 01:23 (two years ago)
Today is the first first of September without onimo.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Friday, 1 September 2023 09:35 (two years ago)
:(
― stirmonster, Friday, 1 September 2023 15:56 (two years ago)
JG Thirlwell was in my dream last night ... I rarely have dreams about music
― sarahell, Friday, 1 September 2023 16:27 (two years ago)
when my sister still lived in london she was leaving her house once and encountered a pasty-looking type on the pavement eyeing her house weirdly. she asked what was up and pasty said the house was a SHRINE* bcz FOETUS once lived there. which she had not till then known (the previous inhabitant had been a sad-seeming lady with many cats). anyway maybe keith allen also lived there…
*i don't imagine they actually said SHRINE, it's what they meant tho (i have a very clear imagined idea of this person lol, based entirely on unjust assumption)
― mark s, Friday, 1 September 2023 16:33 (two years ago)
Pasty fans of pasty Foetus
― do I really have to quote bowling for soup at you? (Matt #2), Friday, 1 September 2023 16:46 (two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNXroStKqg4
Another interview at Lydia and Tim's podcast. Mostly about soundtrack work, he's writing an autobiography and there's a bit of talk about the best musician autobiographies
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 4 January 2024 20:36 (one year ago)
https://archive.is/AeGJZ what a beautiful loft <3
― fpsa, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 16:35 (one year ago)
https://www.curbed.com/article/brooklyn-artists-loft-law-joshua-charow-book-excerpt.html
original URL
the photos:
https://archive.is/AeGJZ/a7d089fd461a95ddf82f26903a72d52dacf84b54.webphttps://archive.is/AeGJZ/bd32c9244f172a21c23e215b20007763eba93ed5.webphttps://archive.is/AeGJZ/1966299db734f3e3896d7ee18f61112aa28372fc.webp
― fpsa, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 16:38 (one year ago)
wow
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 16:41 (one year ago)
Lovely stuff
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 14 April 2024 00:51 (one year ago)
I went there once to interview him for The Wire. It's a really nice space.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 14 April 2024 01:50 (one year ago)
All of this shit is still amazing.― HI DERE, Saturday, September 15, 2007
― HI DERE, Saturday, September 15, 2007
― Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 1 September 2024 02:35 (one year ago)
WHAT TIME IS IT
― pink-haired Marxist (sleeve), Sunday, 1 September 2024 02:58 (one year ago)
"you just wear your umbilical cord like a noose and make believe it's a tie" is still all time top 10 lyric by anyone imho
― pink-haired Marxist (sleeve), Sunday, 1 September 2024 02:59 (one year ago)
Suck on this, Squarehead
― stirmonster, Sunday, 1 September 2024 08:42 (one year ago)
Today is the first of September
― bert newtown, Sunday, 1 September 2024 10:01 (one year ago)
― the deep cut is the firstest (Matt #2), Sunday, 1 September 2024 10:17 (one year ago)
Once more, with feeling :)
― imago, Monday, 1 September 2025 05:56 (one week ago)
https://64.media.tumblr.com/953000f7dc380dacfe16b38cbc62b328/7c964c6bc4072eff-36/s1280x1920/f085c42b1144023a8b77e82a8e7654cb60939936.jpg
― Kim Kimberly, Monday, 1 September 2025 06:29 (one week ago)
Foetus album HALT in mixing stages
JG Thirlwell has been working with Ben Greenberg (Uniform, Z’s, Hubble) at Circular Ruin studios in East Williamsburg Brooklyn, mixing the final and ultimate Foetus album.
― Kim Kimberly, Monday, 1 September 2025 06:34 (one week ago)
unusual details in wikipedia articles
In October 1985, Thirlwell made the album Nail, which became the most popular Foetus album of all time.
― Kim Kimberly, Monday, 1 September 2025 07:36 (one week ago)