PRUSSIAN BLUE - White Power Folk Duo.... of 12-year-old twin sisters...

1) DMB
2) Furrydom
3) Scat porn
4) The White Power movement

Those who know, know. Those who don't, don't wanna.

That's pretty much where I was going.

Except of course me.

it just wasn't likely was it.

Why am I not surprised.

Shh, you'll awaken him!

They should totally be on the next Showbiz Moms & Dads. I want to see the parents who, through 12 years of teaching their children to hate, unleashed this duo on the world.

Wait, what?

That is truly dreadful.

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But isn't every issue har har blah blah etc.

1732 - George Washington - General of the Continental Army, first U.S. President and Father of our country.

1810 - Frederic Chopin - Polish-French musician who is considered to be among the greatest composers of all time.

1857 - Lord Robert Baden-Powell - British military general on whose ideas and ideals the Boy Scouts were founded.

1950 - Julius Erving - Pro basketball star who brought the game to a new level with his leaping ability, incredible hang-time and magnificent dunk shots.

Always go back to the originals.

that "context" seems like a bunch of dissembling bullshit to me ("we aren't giving them exposure because they're cute - we're COMMENTING on their exposure!" = yeah, right. Given Vice's history of "ironic" racial slurs and weirdo pseudo-rightwing posturing I don't buy it for a minute)

(by the way, writing some record reviews 10 years ago is hardly "working at vice" so don't think i'm an editor there or anything)

dude, like half the staff at Vice is Jewish.

if you really think i'm "repping those nazis" and the vice staff are bunch of bigots, you're off the deep end

its best to ignore Shakey Mo Collier and not give Shakey Mo Collier the message board attention Shakey Mo Collier so clearly craves above everything else

and in doing so they handed the white power movement their latest and greatest symbol/martyr

I continue to take issue with this because they may be (very low level) icons (in the same way that any pop or niche star is an icon for their fans) but they aren't "symbols" and they most certainly aren't "martyrs."

You need to show some kind of actual impact (ie Resistance Records profits doubling, a resurgence in white power beliefs that can be tied to exposure to the girlies, etc.) before you can make any kind of blanket statement about harm caused by the mainstream media in this instance.

The original story/meme was that these little girls had already become stars in the white power world - "HOW WACKY IS THAT????" - it's not like NBC and CNN led to the little girls headlining Nazistock.

Shakey, you're not the only one not really feeling much in the way of irony there.

so you think the writer really believes that little girls become even cuter when they sing nazi songs?

Well, yes. I get the impression that he finds the absurdity sweet and funny.

truth be told, the "audio commentary" on the vice article doesn't do much to clear up the irony waters. But a vice ed fesses up to "race mixing."

Obviously, the interviewer should have challenged those brats on their racist ideologies, exposed their parents as heartless monsters, and ideally, made them cry. Then Shakey would be happy and we could stop this insipid conversation.

I mean what's a music journalist that's not a hard-nosed, no-holds-barred muckraker?

clearly if vice had condemned them the neo-nazi movement would be in shambles

haha

just like when the iraq war ended after dude from godsmack got clowned by some smarmy hipster

haha is this the arthur mag / nicklback thing?

i think he's referring to the pennysaver / pantera interview

yeah, i mean all this stern hand-wringing about 'exposure' and 'publicity' kind of melts into nothing if you actually think about the effect PB have, extensive nationwide wall to wall vice-media coverage (or not) on a) the white power movement or b) racial attitudes in this country

ie zero

really if you want to take a stand on creepy sub rosa racism then dig into 4chan and all that, shit is rife

if you actually think about the effect PB have, extensive nationwide wall to wall vice-media coverage (or not) on a) the white power movement...
ie zero

this is similar to Milo's point up above about showing some kind of clear increase in the power/viability of the white power/neo-nazi movement as a result of PB's media exposure. Obviously hard numbers will be impossible to come by (both because these groups tend to overstate their own importance and because constantly being under legal fire requires them to conceal information about the extent of their activities).

Even so, I think if you take the larger view or how ideologies develop and survive - in a very real way media exposure is like oxygen, it preserves and disseminates the ideology and allows it to survive. Its important to note that ideologies and political movements come and go and die out all the time - and they die from being cut off from that oxygen, from becoming so isolated and disassociated from mainstream dialogue that they are no longer relevant or attractive. As I noted above, Prussian Blue have gotten more media exposure in America than any neo-nazi/white power nutjob since David Duke. They are serving as just another link in the ideological chain that serves to keep the movement in the public eye and thus appear viable and relevant. People who are drawn to racist ideologies can now see them as the most recent and commonly recognized reference point. If ABC and GQ and Vice and whoever else had just ignored them from the outset and not written any pieces at all, that reference point would not be there - that breath of oxygen for the white power ideology would not exist.

anyway I went to lunch and got a haircut, doesn't look like I missed much of anything and we're just going in circles now. I think I'm done with this topic.

hallelujah.

now lets all sing Kumbaya

yr oxygen metaphor goes both ways tho: it also causes things to rust, corrode, combust or otherwise fall part. exposure is no guarantee of survival, sometimes the opposite.

frankly i think you're defending yourself just for the sake of it now; "They are serving as just another link in the ideological chain that serves to keep the movement in the public eye and thus appear viable and relevant" doesn't hold a lot of water -- "cute racist 12 y/old singers" is pathetic and wierd, rather than powerful or convincing. As the public face of a movement, it's a big step down from even David Duke, who I'll remind you, was quickly hounded from his position because of media coverage of what he believed.

okay seriously I was done with this thread but this bit in Vice's wikipedia entry made me ROFL

Although McInnes' views on immigration have generated controversy and accusations of racism, the ridicule of racial hatred and other forms of intolerance have been a cornerstone of the magazine from the beginning. [citation needed]

LOUD rock -- it's too easy!

I thought this had been revived coz of the nekkid photos that supposedly exist now.

You've been in yr spam filter agane!

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vile calumny, I apol.

all growed up

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and they love football

would smash and then claim reports of smashing were vastly overestimated

did roger ever end up opening for them?

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bloggin. bloggin real hard ;]

for cheap laffs please scroll down to the bottom of this page on their blog

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Aww, I thought they were going to get out of this scene.

well they're still 16 living with their crazy racist home schooling parents, i wouldn't expect it of them quite yet

HOOS blames the parents

http://downloads.thedaily.com/photos/2011/07/16/071711-news-nazi-twins-1-662w.jpg

Where are they now?

Lamb and Lynx Gaede, the dimpled tween rockers whose Nazi-themed pop band, Prussian Blue, sparked an exuberant media firestorm several years back have grown up — and had a change of heart.

“I’m not a white nationalist anymore,” Lamb told The Daily in an exclusive interview, the twins’ first in five years. “My sister and I are pretty liberal now.”

“Personally, I love diversity,” Lynx seconded. “I’m stoked that we have so many different cultures. I think it’s amazing and it makes me proud of humanity every day that we have so many different places and people.”

Now 19, they both still speak in a disarmingly girlish singsong. Their message, however, was not always so sweet. In 2006, the sisters, who formed the band at the suggestion of White Nationalist leader William Pierce, drew international notoriety with songs like “Hate for Hate: Lamb Near the Lane,” a dreamy folksong cowritten by Lamb and the late David Lane, a member of the violent terrorist splinter cell The Order, who was then serving 190 years in prison for his involvement in the murder of Jewish talk show host Alan Berg in 1984 (he and Lamb were pen pals).

Prussian Blue was never a presence on the pop charts and only played small venues. But for a brief time in the mid-2000s, Lamb and Lynx were seemingly everywhere — “the new face of hate,” as one news program put it. They appeared on “Primetime Live” and in a number of other media oulets, including GQ (where I profiled them in 2006).

Their story even inspired a stage musical, White Noise, which began as a low-budget, off-off-Broadway production before finding a major backer in Whoopi Goldberg and earning some decent reviews in Chicago earlier this year. A Broadway production is reportedly in the planning stages.

The twisted appeal, of course, was the incongruity of seeing a racist, anti-Semitic polemic — complete with smiley-face Hitler T-shirts and onstage Sieg Heil-ing — articulated by these cherubic little girls.

Now, the Gaede twins say they have changed their views and attribute their earlier political pronouncements to youthful naivete. “My sister and I were home-schooled,” Lynx pointed out. “We were these country bumpkins. We spent most of our days up on the hill playing with our goats.”

Lamb agreed. “I was just spouting a lot of knowledge that I had no idea what I was saying,” she said.

lol <3

and further down the article...

But both girls say the hardest part of the whole experience was dealing with the media, which they believe routinely misrepresented them and sensationalized their beliefs. Their time in the limelight subjected them to extraordinary stress, and appears to have contributed to severe health problems for both sisters. Lynx was diagnosed with cancer during her freshman year of high school and doctors removed a large tumor from her shoulder. Then she developed a rare condition called CVS, cyclic vomiting syndrome.

Lamb has struggled as well. She suffers from scoliosis and chronic back pain, as well as lack of appetite and intense emotional stress. During several of our conversations, she burst into tears as she agonized about how to balance her love for her mother with her desire to let the world know that the girls have moved on.

Approximately a year ago, Lamb and Lynx stumbled on a new treatment that they say has done wonders for many of these ailments.

“I have to say, marijuana saved my life,” Lynx told me. “I would probably be dead if I didn’t have it.” She discovered pot while recovering from her cancer treatments. She’d been prescribed morphine and OxyContin, which she quit cold turkey. One day when she was having a bout of nausea, a friend offered her a toke. She was reluctant at first. The girls’ biological father had been “a druggie” when they were young, Lynx said.

But the drug worked wonders, and soon Lynx became one of the first five minors to get a medical marijuana card in Montana. Now Lamb has one, too.

Pot has also helped the twins rekindle the creative impulses they once channeled into their music. They’ve both taken up painting — astrological themes, mostly — and Lynx restores furniture. They hope to enroll in college, and intend to dedicate themselves to making medical marijuana legal in all 50 states.

Meanwhile, they’ll keep growing up. Impressive as their transformation has been, for instance, their views on World War II still bear traces of the Holocaust denial ideology they were taught as children. For instance, asked whether the Holocaust happened, Lynx replied, “I think certain things happened. I think a lot of the stories got misconstrued. I mean, yeah, Hitler wasn’t the best, but Stalin wasn’t, Churchill wasn’t. I disagree with everybody at that time.”

Lamb concurred. “I just think everyone needs to frickin’ get over it,” she said. “That’s what I think.”

baby steps....

Indeed. Rome wasn't built in a day.

cyclic vomiting syndrome

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thats supposed to be a joint