― Boxcar (Crapstone), Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:37 (twenty years ago)
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:39 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:41 (twenty years ago)
HS
― hector savage, Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:43 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:47 (twenty years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:20 (twenty years ago)
Are people now offering Popart as a suggestion *instead* of the discography/singles collection? I've often wondered why they did so much overlap between the two - to me it would've made more sense to make a single-disc second volume of the discography/singles collection, as the first stands pretty mightily on its own.(they put everything on from the first, save Was It Worth It)
it all just seems a bit unnecessary to me
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:26 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:30 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:31 (twenty years ago)
Here's a TS for you -- buying them in that format vs. the double-disc reissues from Please to Very which include all the Alternative cuts.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago)
i like how the first disc left the album intact and the second filled in with all kinds of neat mixes, demos and b-sides
so, naturally i'll say the double-disc versions
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:37 (twenty years ago)
But if you're on a budget then I guess just go for the double-disc reissues.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:39 (twenty years ago)
both popart and discography are DEAD CHEAP, so there's little in it. pop art gives you a taste of the later stuff - which might be of use to someone who'd heard v little. i do prefer discography cos i'm not taken with the later stuff all that much :-(
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:45 (twenty years ago)
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:46 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:46 (twenty years ago)
― Chris Hill (Chris Hill), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:50 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:52 (twenty years ago)
Specifically: Se A Vida E (pure concentrated joy in a can), A Red Letter Day (it GETS me, man), I Don't Know What You Want..., You Only Tell Me You Love Me When You're Drunk (dissing, punk, hee!), Home And Dry (makes me cry), I Get Along (it's about Blair-n-Mandy u kno).
And also because Discography's strictly chronological timeline gets a bit wearing; the "pop"/"art" split may border on the arbitrary at times, but the track sequencing is still intelligently done.
Most glaring omission from Alternative: the swing version of "Can You Forgive Her", re-recorded with a full swing band arrangement, and at least 98% as good as the original.
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago)
(oh and check the INGA 1990 cover of DO I HAVE TO? if u haven't).
― piscesboy, Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:06 (twenty years ago)
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:10 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago)
It's odd because I really adore most of their stuff (I loved _Release_, for example, and think "Home And Dry" is genius) but there are certain things that really, really aggravate me, like "Domino Dancing", "Always On My Mind", "Can You Forgive Her?", and "Go West", but those things are greatly overshadowed by the fact that most of their tracks are as great as "Se A Vida E (Deep Dish Mix)" or "The Boy Who Couldn't Keep His Clothes On" or every version of "I Want A Dog" that doesn't appear on _Introspective_.
(xpost RAISE YOUR STANDARDS, PSB FANS)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:15 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago)
(xpost HONOR THE FEY! Er.)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago)
other favourites-"Love Comes Quickly""So Hard""West End Girls" (obviously)"Kings Cross"
I could go on, and on. best band ever.
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago)
WHAAAATTT??? This is madness. Holy shit, that track is so utterly great.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago)
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago)
I also know that part of my issue with _Introspective_ is the super-heavy hand of Shep Pettibone.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago)
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:28 (twenty years ago)
I have to hurt you now.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:31 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:35 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago)
i smell heavy handed ILX racism at work
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago)
Six if you count me. Play With Me is a superb metapop album.
― Acid Alliteration, Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello "Acid Alliteration" Carlin, Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago)
Is anyone else happy like I am that they've released the DVD of their Behaviour tour? Especially since I missed it. When they played LA. In 1991. When I was out of town that week. And couldn't catch them. WHEN THEY PLAYED WHAT WAS APPARENTLY ONE OF THEIR BEST SHOWS ON THE TOUR ACCORDING TO PET SHOP BOYS VERSUS AMERICA. But I digress.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago)
That's the premise behind the new album by The Paper Kites, _Roses_, fwiw.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 22 March 2021 13:42 (four years ago)
Would seem appropriate for Cardi B to give them a boost in the same way that they worked with Dusty Springfield.
Not that they're anywhere near as commercially adrift as Dusty was in the mid-80s.
― Dan Worsley, Monday, 22 March 2021 14:05 (four years ago)
*flat British monotone*Get a bucket and a mopThat’s a wet ass pussy
― too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Monday, 22 March 2021 16:38 (four years ago)
in a wet ass town, a dead end world
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 16:42 (four years ago)
Cardi B, here is all of my money, please re-record "Shopping"
― Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Monday, 22 March 2021 16:47 (four years ago)
thought for sure you'd say "Domino Dancing," then corrected myself. You'd say, "Cardi B, here is all of my money, please destroy the masters of 'Domino Dancing.'"
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 March 2021 16:55 (four years ago)
xpost -- It must happen.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 March 2021 16:56 (four years ago)
Thought this would be on here: "Opportunities" achieves "new dance chart high" while in Allstate commercial: https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9527827/super-bowl-pet-shop-boys-opportunities-dance-charts (hood ornament smiling and singing along is shit, and reminds me that Consumer Reports concluded, citing reader surveys, that some of the worst car insurance providers have the most elaborate commericals, because they have to replace so many customers every year)(do like the dsert drive being all into the song tho)
― dow, Monday, 22 March 2021 17:12 (four years ago)
I'd been waiting for that article since seeing the commercial at least five times last week.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 March 2021 17:14 (four years ago)
I have a dance party every time that commercial comes on
― Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Monday, 22 March 2021 17:16 (four years ago)
it's airing constantly during the ncaa tournament (the bettors seem to have latched onto the chorus lyric)
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 17:17 (four years ago)
also lmao that article says "sorry, only for Billboard pros!" when I click on it
― Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Monday, 22 March 2021 17:17 (four years ago)
"The 1986 classic sold 1,000 downloads"Incredible stuff. Neil and Chris certainly are making lots of money, amirite?
― I Advance Masked (Vast Halo), Monday, 22 March 2021 17:22 (four years ago)
Huh, hadn't even realized this ad existed.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 March 2021 17:24 (four years ago)
it is one of the two best ads on television right now
obv #1 is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDAg3VkZPg8
― Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Monday, 22 March 2021 17:26 (four years ago)
Indeed! You saw that Undefeated article about it, yes?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 March 2021 17:28 (four years ago)
I did!
― Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Monday, 22 March 2021 17:29 (four years ago)
Separately, so this "Opportunities" talk is making me think of a hilarious little-talked-about moment from their imperial phase. So there was that Billionaire Boys Club movie with Kevin Spacey a few years back, but well before that there was a 1987 NBC miniseries about the same case, starring Judd Nelson. It is VERY 1987 network TV on all fronts. Thankfully the full thing is available on YouTube.
Anyway, I remember watching it at the time, and I distinctly remember there was a montage on it where our non-hero gets himself all made over to be a power player by his fellow assholes. (Again, how perfectly 1987.) As you can see here -- the link should hopefully start at the right place; if not, skip ahead to 21 minutes into the video and let it play from there -- it is soundtracked by a terrible cover of "Opportunities" which is spectacularly missing the point, clearly because the music supervisor or producer or whoever was just all "Wow a song about money, perfect!" I kinda want to know who the guilty party who did this cover is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQOTcBbZQU4
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 March 2021 17:37 (four years ago)
omigod that "Opportunities" montage
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:01 (four years ago)
It's AMAZING. What a fucking artifact.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:04 (four years ago)
More movie montages should consist mainly of stills.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:14 (four years ago)
https://imgur.com/a/13YdC?nc=1
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:16 (four years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/erKzudV.jpg
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:19 (four years ago)
As long as we're talking about "Woot!", leave us not forget Downey's brill use of "Everybody Everybody":https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRNawm7F9fw
― dow, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:21 (four years ago)
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTYxi5e9SSkqH35b6b3BsytKI2fCuz7ValoMtlMMY8e7_yE93cKjrgsdrhRip4&usqp=CAc
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:21 (four years ago)
xpost my fave (the Downy's that is)
― dow, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:22 (four years ago)
A further update on that terrible cover -- Nate Patrin remembered the ad for the miniseries using it. You will note, how you say, a creative edit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4R_C2L4Wmk
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:22 (four years ago)
Re: That Downy ad. I submit for consideration LG selling washing machines by reinterpreting "Got Your Money":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEwxtg35BUo
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:33 (four years ago)
why are there so many street signs in that montage
― Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:47 (four years ago)
Billionaire Boys Club was nominated for four Emmys: Outstanding Miniseries, Outstanding Directing in a Miniseries or Special, Outstanding Writing in a Miniseries or Special, and Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Miniseries or Special for Ron Silver
lol
― Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:50 (four years ago)
Really speaks to the sheer paucity of quality around then. "It MUST be important, it's about wannabe rich assholes in LA like us!"
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:55 (four years ago)
Whenever I think of the Pet Shop Boys in pop culture I always think of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW8TIAHyAE0
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:37 (four years ago)
YES! on the Tag Team Geico ad being the #1 ad of the moment. I crack myself up inserting "Sprinkles!" mentally into conversations. The expression on the son's?/daughter's? faces are great, too.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 22 March 2021 19:42 (four years ago)
One thing I like about the Tag Team commercial is that I (and I assume a lot of people) had idea what the guys looked like, and even if I did, it's kind of taken on faith that these are the same guys. And yeah, "Sprinkles!"
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:52 (four years ago)
the tag team commercial also underscores the fact that "whoomp there it is" is a truly excellent song that we've taken for granted
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 20:04 (four years ago)
I mentioned this piece briefly but it is worth a read
https://theundefeated.com/features/behind-the-delightful-success-of-tag-team-hit-commercial-with-geico/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 March 2021 20:11 (four years ago)
AD WARS - tag team's "whoomp there it is" vs. pet shop boys' "opportunities"
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 22:13 (four years ago)
bilingual then backwards and anything after bilingual is crap!
― xzanfar, Monday, 22 March 2021 22:59 (four years ago)
nah
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 11:55 (four years ago)
Geico wins Mad Men Ace Award because visuals of Allstate spoiled by shitty singing hood ornament, looking like a sweetened-up Wicked Witch, but musically I find "Opportunities" more exciting.
― dow, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 17:57 (four years ago)
I can't recall many good covers of PSB songs, except by Liza/Dusty etc, but this a lovely and summery, found by accident on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/track/4clr0ehfzrEKvLepw4WffW?si=9c65ffc509534d5c
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 1 July 2022 13:30 (three years ago)
I saw an announcement for Disco 5 and got very excited, then looked at the track listing:
https://shop.petshopboys.co.uk/eu/disco-5-1cd/5021732831224.html
*sad trombone*
― our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 16:11 (one week ago)
Christ.
― Madchen, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 17:41 (one week ago)
The fuck is that all about
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 17:50 (one week ago)
Have always thought the music of Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds was perfect for a remix
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 17:54 (one week ago)
"What did you DO?" "It's our John Cage tribute."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 18:03 (one week ago)
Not seeing the problem tbh. I don't know these remixes but I can't imagine any of them are bad?
I mean I don't like Sleaford Mods at all but I can sort of tolerate them on those Orbital and Prodigy tracks, but idk.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 19:11 (one week ago)
the Weller one is fantastic.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 22:39 (one week ago)
Was always a bit let down that their supposed 'guitar' album Release wasn't rockist enough
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 23:05 (one week ago)
Their version of "I'm in Love with a German Film Star" was a surprising failure. On paper it sounds like it should work brilliantly, but the actual results were as flat as a pancake.
― Vast Halo, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:52 (one week ago)