Never mind all that, what about the proposed Smiths musical in the west end?

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I mean, now I have seen this is happening, I know that there is not one musical I would go see that would use music in this way. Not the Jam, the Smiths, etc...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Pet Shop Boys?

(I would see a Smiths musical in a HEARTBEAT.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago)

I would go see a Smiths musical! But only if it told the life of Moz through his own songs. You would have to get someone with the vitality of a red-hot Hugh Jackman to play the lead though.

On the Smiths-tribute front: That emo Smiths tribute album I got that Ryko put out is horrible. Just horrible. It doesn't help that it sounds like the same band playing every song. Why do all emo singers have to sing like that?

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago)

... So it's like a Smiths Mamma Mia?

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Abba, Peter Allen, Boy George...it's a natural!

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago)

in a HEARTBEAT.)

Now you have put a thought up for me. Wire? I might well do that one.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Zep musical, would clearly be amazing

lukey (Lukey G), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:34 (twenty years ago)

In high school, I wanted to do musicals based on Sire's _Just Say Yo!_ compilation and The Creatures' _Boomerang_ album.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago)

based on Sire's _Just Say Yo!_ compilation

easy script to learn though...

1st Student: "Yo"
2nd Student: "Yo. Yo!"
3rd and 4th student: "Yo! Yo?"
1st Student: "yo."

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago)

I've always wanted to create a ballet based on the first Captain Beyond album.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Mark, it was a musical, not a Budweiser ad.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:55 (twenty years ago)

I also want to put together a "dance fantasy" using the music from Anathema's Judgement album. One of my fave dark/goth/prog/pink floyd-inspired metal albums of all time.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago)

I also wanted to do musicals based on _Disintegration_ and _Lovesexy_.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago)

Disintegration On Ice! would be fabulous.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Unknown Pleasures ballet.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:04 (twenty years ago)

especially if they turn the fridges off...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:04 (twenty years ago)

i heard about this yesterday somewhere. it's called "Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others" and Marr and Morrissey have both given it some kind of nod but stressed that's it's not going to be like Mama Mia.

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, not much it isn't!

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago)

JtN is not on the thread, so I am unsure that I believe in it.

the bellefox, Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago)

http://nme.com/news/110488.htm

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago)

If you really wanted to see ABBA in a live context, forget about Mamma Mia! Instead go see the imposters from the land of Forster's, Björn Again, put on a full-blown fake ABBA concert. They play hit after hit, filling up the midsized auditoriums with beautiful sound, exactly like the records but better. If you don't believe me, go to the website and read the celebrity testimonials. Also check their gig schedule there, because I didn't think they spend much of their touring budget on advertising, preferring instead to buy lights and fine silk pajamas and whatever else it takes to put on a great show for their fans.

I don't know if the Smiths would really be suitable for such treatment.

Ken Lauterbach (Ken L), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Björn Again, put on a full-blown fake ABBA concert.
yeah, but what's the storyline? You can't see a music performance without a storyline to link it all together. There's no point.

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:47 (twenty years ago)

http://yesmuseum.org/images/RickOnIce.JPG

piscesboy, Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:54 (twenty years ago)

yeah, but what's the storyline? You can't see a music performance without a storyline to link it all together.

That deaf, dumb and blind kid sure makes a mean (Swedish) meatball? That jolly, bearded Swedish fellow sure plays a mean mock glockenspiel on his keyboard?

Ken Lauterbach (Ken L), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:07 (twenty years ago)


Best proposal for a Smiths musical:

http://www.lacunae.com/hatful.htm

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 November 2004 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Best proposal for a Smiths musical
I like it. But I would prefer it if, in line with the lyric, the double decker bus kills "the both of us" and TWO of the leads perish, while, as in one of the Bard's tragedies, there are some other young folks who survive to propagate the race, or at least, in this case, to propagate mope rock. Amongst these youngsters, sitting in the corner of the stage with his eyes shut and arms wrapped around his bedenimed knees, rocking slightly back and forth, upswept shock of hair clearly visible, is a young Moz-in-waiting, dreaming of the day he will write the songs that will eventually be made into this musical.

Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 11 November 2004 19:57 (twenty years ago)

heard about this yesterday somewhere. it's called "Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others" and Marr and Morrissey have both given it some kind of nod but stressed that's it's not going to be like Mama Mia.

Good Lord. I joked about this back in college, but my then-girlfriend agreed with me that it should only ever be called "It Happens A Lot 'Round Here".

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Thursday, 11 November 2004 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Fellas, I got it! A little cross-pollination is what we need to invigorate this baby and make it a surefire hit, so what we do is take another tried and true tale and graft it onto this one.

The show's title: Handsome Devil On My Trail. The story: a troubled young Stephen Patrick Morrissey, hellbent on becoming a cinema star, goes down to the Mancunian crossroads to sell his soul to expedite said stardom. Instead of meeting Old Nick (Nick Lowe, who ends up appearing later in the show, with a leggy chorine Carlene Carter doing a high-kick dance number) he has a furtive encounter with a seedy old bluesman which convinces him to change plans and become a blues singer. Relevant lyric: "I thought that if you had an acoustic guitar that meant that you were a protest singer," but young Moz realizes that in fact a guitarslinger doesn't have to sing the protest, in fact it is his personal calling to sing the blues.

Early blues-type versions of bits and pieces of Smiths classics are tinkered and toyed with:

This is the last night of the fair, and the grease in the hair
Strum-strum-strum-strum-strum.
This IS the last night of the fair, and all that grease in the hair
Strum-strum-strummety-strum-strum
I went and told that big wheel operator, it's crucial someone so handsome should care.

I was happy in the haze of a drunken hour, but heaven knows I'm miserable now.
I was happy in that haze of the drunken hour, but Lord knows I've got the misery now
I've looked up and down the schoolyard, but those Rusholme Ruffians have taken my milkcow.

I haven't worked out all the details yet, but you can bet there is a boffo breakthrough moment when, with the help of his songwriting partner, he realizes that the strictures of the blues form have had him "pinned and mounted like a butterfly" for some time and now that he is free, he can put in as many bars as he wants, and sing whatever he wants as high as he wants, still delivering that blues feeling, but with a little Oscar Wilde wit thrown in to spice up the mix.

Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 12 November 2004 03:01 (twenty years ago)

Omigod! Somebody else has read my proposal! I was always really proud of that one...

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 12 November 2004 06:55 (twenty years ago)

You should be. Especially the locales, the "hillside desolate" and the "disused railway line."

Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 12 November 2004 06:59 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, was talking about this the other night. Opening night should be in November so that, once it's a big hit, they can splash "NOVEMBER SPAWNED A MONSTER...... ERRRRRR........ HIT" all over the front of the theate

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 12 November 2004 10:58 (twenty years ago)

it is not a musical, and it is not in the west end.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 12 November 2004 12:07 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if there's a remote possibility Alan Bennett might be involved in this? He was at Meltdown, so I'd imagine he and Mzz have at least met, and he might be the only person who might be able to make this fly.

Soukesian, Friday, 12 November 2004 23:17 (twenty years ago)

why has nobody spun off a musical from the songs of Burt Bacharach (poss. ans - they are too much abt heartbreak, on the whole)

bah, Friday, 12 November 2004 23:20 (twenty years ago)


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