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I'll be doing an interview w/ David Berman of Silver Jews in the near future -- anything I should ask him?

Mark, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I go where I'm led...

Mark, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ask David Berman to do a duo with David Behrman, of avant-garde electronics fame. They could call it "Only an H seperates us."

I will produce it.

Gage-o, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ask him if he thinks he could take Paul Curry in a fight. Or anyone else from Louisville, for that matter.

hstencil, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ask him how he feels about his beloved university turning into a freggin campus wide frat. UVA SUCKS!

Brock K., Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ask him what his response has been in relation to the Silver Jews in accordance to his latest book of poetry, "Actual Air" ? Do Silver Jews fans also read his poetry? Do his poetry fans listen to the Silver Jews? That's what I'd be most interested in hearing about, since I just bought his book and I quite like it.

Mandee, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ask him why he's such a boring pseudo-intellectual twat. Just kidding. Really. Or maybe not? ;-)

helenfordsdale, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I was reading an interview the other day with Bill Callahan, and the interviewer was asking him questions like what his favorite tv show was, favorite food, etc. Bill mentioned in it that he really liked those questions.

Jeff, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ask him nothing but questions about Stephen Malkmus.

JM, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Just ask him "why? god, why?" and just start crying. When he asks what you are crying about, just say "they cancelled Golden Girls."

Gage-o, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ask him if his influneces are literay or musical

anthony, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ask him why he's such a boring pseudo-intellectual twat. Just kidding. Really. Or maybe not?

Oh, let's not even start this -- more and more, I hate ridiculous applications of the word "pseudo-intellectual." What could possibly be construed as "pseudo-intellectual" about Berman -- that he writes poetry? Poetry which is actually quite anti- intellectual, insofar at it's unformed and vernacular and conversational, and most poetic "intellectuals" wouldn't even take it seriously?

I realize you were sort of kidding, but "pseudo-intellectual" is a pet peeve of mine. I fear that within three generations, no one will be allowed to know anything at all, and we'll all be complete morons wandering around saying, "Did you hear that guy going on about the Earth being round? What a pompous psuedo-intellectual twat."

Nitsuh, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Instead of saying pseudo-intellectual, say "quasi-pseudo- intellectual, kind of." It is much more specific, I think.

Then ask David Berman why he broke up with me. WHY?

Gage-O, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No, I say we ban the word "pseudo-intellectual" forever, and quit blaming people for aspiring to complexity. If they are stupid and wrong, we should just say that they are stupid and wrong, and if they don't know what they are talking about, we should just say that they don't know what they are talking about. We should generally try to quit assuming that anyone who seems to value the "intellectual" is just trying to one-up everyone else, because (a) it's not true nearly as often as people like to think, and (b) it's dangerous to set a precedent of sniping at anyone who aspires to something that is, in theory, admirable.

This isn't to say that there aren't plenty of ridiculous folks who want to leave unread copies of Kant lying conspicuously on the nightstand, or just generally use unachieved signifiers of intellectuality as status symbols. But we should call them something else, because "pseudo-intellectual" all too often bleeds over into unnecessary sniping at people who are generally interested in such things.

Nitsuh, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree, Nitsuh. Other phrases that deserve to get called out: "musical elitist," using "boring" without explaining what you mean, "wankery" in reference to music (I'm SO guilty of this), "pre- programmed beats" (what the hell does this mean anyway? and aren't those riffs that guitarist is playing "pre-thought-up" too?), "progressive."

Clarke B., Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i liive in charlottesville and uva is a huge frat. what do you do with uva?

squallin breuasuhhh, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nitsuh, it may be your pet peeve, that doesn't mean you are right. How about obtuse then? It is hard for me to really differentiate between the two because I haven't interviewed David B. Not that I would want to.

helenfordsdale, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There are several phrases that need a more critical eye, besides this "psuedo-intellectual" effant terrible that we are tearing apart.

In regards to music, such phrases are "good," "bad," "apple" and "lil' johnny."

example: "That new Radiohead album is good." "I thought is sounded bad." "It was kind of apple in some ways." "Let's ask Lil' Johnny."

I mean, really? Is that any way to interpret someone's creative musical vision?

Gage-o, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No, I'm sorry, Helen -- I didn't mean to call you out specifically. It's a personal issue. Here's the thing:

"Psuedo-intellectual" and its cousin in intellectual "pretension" should by definition mean that a person's aspirations toward intellect are a pose, and what's more a self- aggrandizing pose, intended to impress others and derive status. In that sense they can be useful words, because plenty of people do this.

My problem is that if a guy comes along and starts blathering about existentialist fiction, two complexities crop up: (a) how much you know about existentialist fiction, and (b) whether what the person is saying has any merit. If you know the topic and what the guy is saying lacks merit, you'll probably just say so: "You're wrong." If you know the topic and what the guy's saying does have merit, but you clearly detect self-aggrandizement, "pseudo- intellectual" seems valid, if snobbish. More problematic is when you don't know the topic, which makes it slightly harder to tell whether the guy is saying things for the purpose of self- aggrandizement or not. My qualm is with "pseudo-intellectual" as it's typically used, which is as a way of saying "I don't know the topic, and refuse to believe that anyone would learn about it except for the purpose of self-aggrandizement." It all too often works as a handy way of keeping anyone from talking about anything that anyone else isn't interested in or knowledgable about, and it's quite irritating that it often gets used to sneer at people who really do have an interest in "intellectual" things. Even more irritating to me is that it gets thrown at people who aren't even doing remotely intellectual things in the first place, like, say, David Berman. The guy's in a rock band and writes distinctly non- academic poetry, for God's sake -- it's not as if he's sending essays to Partisan Review.

There's this weird assumption at the center that intellectuality cannot possibly be fun, and is usually just a kind of educational snobbery. And that's simply not true.

Nitsuh, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So perhaps we should remove the element of sniping at aspirations toward intellectuality, and focus on the element of wanting to lord intellectual achievements over others: we should just call them snobs. This is what we do with class, after all; we accept that people aspire to wealth but resent those who think that wealth makes them "better" than the rest of us.

Nitsuh, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This is the part where I come riding in on a purple donkey, dressed like Scott Baio circa "Charles in Charge."

I say "Vive le intellectualism!," the donkey bays, and several boxes of Cap'n Crunch are opened and strewn about the room.

Francis Bacon shows up, drunk, and tries to hit on a Spanish midget.

yes?

Gage-o, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

eight years pass...

the mailman dreams he's Paul Rever

Mr. Que, Sunday, 4 April 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)

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Mr. Que, Sunday, 4 April 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)

this is weird cause speaking of dreams and the Jews, last night I dreamt that David and Cassie got a divorce, and Cassie ended up (or actually this might have been a cause of the divorce, it's muddy) performing as an actress in some weird cabaret style theatre thing that had newspaper critics' quips shown in real time LED ticker-style above and around the stage. one of them was "good for you girl, you can do way better than that creep!" or something like that. pretty sure this had a lot to do with the fact that on Friday I was re-reading an old article about how the Jews made their formal dissolution announcement via their original message board (the same announcement where DCB outed his dad as the infamous spin honcho he is), and the article contained a comment from some guy comparing Berman Sr. to Aaron Eckhart's character in Thank You For Smoking. which I ended up watching later that night just for that reason.

so anyway, prior to my wedding, I asked "The Silver Jews" for a few reception songs suggestions. I was returned:

"When I Said I Do" by Clint Black and Lisa Hartman-Black
"Knights in White Satin" by the Moody Blues
"I'm Gonna Come Over There and Love You" by George Strait
"I Love You a Thousand Ways" by Lefty Frizzell (only one I actually ended up using)

I sincerely, sincerely hope he and Cassie are doing great.

iiiijjjj, Sunday, 4 April 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)


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