Anyone else getting bored of DFA?

acid house shocker? I need to hear.

people danced (pogoed!) in totally indie clubs to that man.

what was the non 4-4 clubby mix called??

heard 2manyDJ's mixing it with.... the white stripes! haha :D
was good actually!

They're losing their edge.

BOOM BOOM!

One point no one's brought up yet is that they release more than just dance music. (There.) They're pretty diverse, whereas most of the complaints just seem to be about the dancefloor singles. "Wasteder"!!

Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

Anyway, I don't think they're going to come out with too many stone CLASSIC singles along the lines of "Losing My Edge" and "House of Jealous Lovers" anymore, but they're expanding their sound and they're doing all sorts of interesting shit, which certainly beats the hell out of Louden Up Now. It saddens me to hear that The Rapture are gone, though--I don't know if they'll ever be able to fully realize their potential without the DFA by their side.

hmm, I haven't heard this admittedly, but I really can't imagine a better continuation of Harmonia/Cluster than Sunroof! or that Youngsbower record.

hmm, I haven't heard this admittedly, but I really can't imagine a better continuation of Harmonia/Cluster than Sunroof! or that Youngsbower record.

-- & (...), November 13th, 2004.

I love Sunroof! and that Youngsbower album, but I don't really think of Harmonia when I listen to 'em. But now that you mention it... I still don't hear it. All those VHF bands remind me more of Terry Riley, Charlemagne Palestine, Henry Flynt and Non than they do Harmonia.

off the top of my head.

as the billboard profile this week made clear (and stop a minute, yall, to think about how huge it is for a small nyc dance label to get a large billboard profile; within the industry it couldn't be bigger), james, tim and jonathan want to create a motown-like hit factory, but to do that you need raw materials (sounds, performers, songs) and the physical structure in which to churn them (the beautiful dfa studio/offices).

james is obviously tied up in the lcd album (which i still have not heard, but i will very soon) -- which he scrapped and rerecorded in the spring and summer -- and tim has been working on a solo disc, too. the ratpure are now writing their new album, the juan maclean disc is in the can (they're waiting for the right record deal), black dice put out a very strong album this year, the liquid liquid 12-inch is on the way, etc. so while the dfa starting lineup has been between releases, the second line (comp #2) has been running strong, proving that the dfa's productions aren't as artist-tied as some had thought.

all of which is to say that anyone getting bored of them is simply impatient. i'm guessing that i've listened to more dfa than anyone on this board (or, quite possibly, anywhere), and i am nowhere close to being bored of them. i keep revisiting the 12-inches, listening to the turing machine record (anyone familiar with the rock-dance crossover of their sound, listen to this; it sets the whole template), and tweaking my rough guide to dfa endlessly. if yr feeling sick of dfa, listen to something else! just don't trick yourself into feeling that they've gone stale or that they're fresh out of ideas. their portfolio is a work in progress. these are smart men, and i don't even think they know how much they are capable of.

nice post.

I mean I dunno, maybe my tastes have changed, I just was really into them, in a big way, and now I am sort of bugged by the fact they are still treated as some next big thing when surely they either aren't bothered being the next big thing or just aren't.

As for Tiefschwarz, I find it odd Jed says they're loopy, one of the things I like best about them is the sheer kitchen sink element of the production, every bar has a different sample or effect in it, for me anyway. I do think their new style takes a certain amount of getting used to though. The Spektrum remix didn't make sense to me for ages and now I worship it, heard it tonight for the millionth time and it was great.

I think, and not to go too ott, that what Tiefschwarz are doing at the moment is so fresh and crazy that it really will take a while to sink in, but I have to say I think everyone is going to be ripping them off from now on. If you listen to the 11 remixes CD in the Misch Masch release, it's just stunning, nobody in dance has had such an insanely unique production style in ages, and it's so intricate aswell.

If they wanted to, Tiefschwarz could make a massive dance album and kick ass all over the charts Chemical Brothers style, for sure.

but the important thing to note is that none of this has to do with the dfa. they can't control what they get asked. when i interviewed the ratpure a couple of years ago i was eavesdropping on the questions other journos were asking them, and it was horrifying. "so do you hang out with the strokes?" "do you really like dance music?" etc. etc. when i finally went in and did my interview i felt like i was asking the most obvious questions in the world, but they swore up and down that no one in the two press days they had done had even come close to interacting with them on a musical level.

so, in short i guess, is that music critics are shaaaaaady!

Black Strobe are Arnaud Rebotini and Ivan Smagghe.

bored????

i don't think we've even begun to hear what they are capable of. tim goldsworthy is a god. i also think that the dance thing is misleading. i think their best music will probably have little to do with dancefloors.

as for tiefschwarzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

oh, and jed, turing machine are a nyc math-rock kinda band (with a bit of metal) and their first album was the first dfa production (right, jonathan? correct me if i'm wrong...). it's interesting to note that the "dfa approach" (as i my piece in the 12/04 spin states, there is no "dfa sound" but there is a "dfa approach") was even tangible on an album that, musically, sounds nothing like what they've done since.

but yes, i think they do probably reference a particular time, but there were lots of interesting things from that time to reference and i wasn't about at that time to appreciate it. however, possibly because i lived through ebm (surely another major reference for tiefschwarz), electro and rave, it isn't as exciting to me when these eras are revisited.

the first Turing Maching record was the first thing I ever heard from the DFA (was it the first thing the DFA did?). i'm looking forward to hearing the new one. (btw: i missed seeing PANTHERS at the Vice Magazine show last night).

the first Turing Maching record was the first thing I ever heard from the DFA (pretty sure it the first thing the DFA did). i'm looking forward to hearing the new one. (btw: i missed seeing PANTHERS at the Vice Magazine show last night).

as I said, already, I am not pointlessly hating and it's not as though I think they're irredeemably shit or simply don't get them, I just think they've been eclipsed a little.

And of coure it was and remains a mild irritant that some of us here praised "Yeah" to the skies despite openly hating any and all similar styles of music. I mean let's face it "Higher State" is the main reference point.

dr. elektroloathe

ha ha! i love that ronan. but hey, i DO play a lot of that stuff (tiefschwarz's spektrum mix was in my box for months) but i still maintain blackstrobe and tiefschwarz share the same synth.

Everything truly is relative! I'm going to disagree with Ronan for once and say that, for me, these two are pretty similar. Ronan, your discernment of course illustrates your expertise!

Yes. The Joy 12" is easily as earthshattering as hearing Sugarcubes "Birthday" for the first time. People have got to open up those ear canals and get the wax out!