― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Sunday, 14 November 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― nick.K (nick.K), Sunday, 14 November 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)
I can fathom Simon Reynolds' analytical approach, but Eshun's Wire-bound sonic fragmentations get buried in wordy jargon that the casual reader can lose interest very quickly.
I will re-aquaint myself with it at some stage though.
― herbalizer12 (herbalizer12), Sunday, 14 November 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Sunday, 14 November 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 14 November 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 14 November 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)
I noticed that there’s a reference in Toop’s Haunted Weather, which I can’t work out is dismissive – Thinking back now, maybe it’s more neutral…but then More Brilliant… isn’t listed in the Bibliography…?
― james porter (james porter), Sunday, 14 November 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Drew Daniel, Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Drew Daniel, Monday, 15 November 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― mike h. (mike h.), Saturday, 27 November 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 27 November 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)
yesterday I speed-read and notated Toop's Ocean of Sound and it was pretty smooth going. Today I'm trying to do the same with this. Distinctly less smooth, but I'm liking it very much so far. The zings are nicely brutal, and I'm enjoying his particular way of taking concepts from other writers and smashing them into each other and everything else he can find. Anyone else read it / had thoughts on it in the past five and a half years?
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 22 July 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)
Every time I try, I get bored. Wish he didn't try to be so clever with his style. Anyone want to buy it off me?
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 22 July 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)
i love this book to death. regularly revisit it, and always understand it a bit more as a result.
brotherlovesdub - i think its OOP and therefore worth DIRTY CASH just some advice
― the crucible of easily debunked e-mail fwds (stevie), Friday, 23 July 2010 07:29 (fifteen years ago)
72 quid used on Amazon :(
― flashing drill + penis fan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 July 2010 13:19 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, I've been enjoying my library copy so much that I went to Amazon hoping to find it for, ooh, £8, and oyyy. Needs 1 reprint, quick.
― Merdeyeux, Friday, 23 July 2010 13:23 (fifteen years ago)
PDF considerably cheaper :) but not mad keen on reading books via computer
― flashing drill + penis fan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 July 2010 13:23 (fifteen years ago)
SEVENTY TWO QUID!!!
― r|t|c, Friday, 23 July 2010 13:28 (fifteen years ago)
OCRed PDF also significantly quicker for transcribing passages! But reading in that format isn't ideal for me either. Although people doing academic etc stuff could be bothered when it was all handwriting all the time I do not HEY LOOK A BUTTERFLY.
(at the moment, after reading the Parliament section, I'm wondering how many times I can use the word 'booty' in my dissertation and get away with it.)
― Merdeyeux, Friday, 23 July 2010 13:29 (fifteen years ago)
how people etc etc.
tenner in german translation tho
― r|t|c, Friday, 23 July 2010 13:30 (fifteen years ago)
Drexciya section wd be cool in German obv but don't think my reading skills wd be up to it
― flashing drill + penis fan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 July 2010 13:32 (fifteen years ago)
crashing rocks books in florida is doing it for £195.24, maybe j0rdan can do you a solid
― r|t|c, Friday, 23 July 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)
Can't do books in pdf either - tried to read Voice of New Music and its a fail :-(
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 July 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)
I enjoy this book to death and my copy is beyond dogeared. Wish it came back into print.
― ¿Can Your Gato Do the Perro? (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 23 July 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)
i've sold two copies of this on amazon for £££s - the first was a copy i picked up secondhand, i think i sold it for £80, then i sold my own battered copy for around the same amount a few weeks later. i'd like to have it again but it was good to have the dosh at the time.
― jed_, Friday, 23 July 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)
Genius book written by a genius.
― Andy K, Friday, 23 July 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)
DONE. Loved the Sun Ra section, could feel me head rearrange itself as I read it. Not sure how much of the overarching themes and arguments I grasped from that speedy read, but there are flashes of brilliance everywhere.
― Merdeyeux, Friday, 23 July 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)
price will only go up when he wins the turner prize
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 23 July 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)
Somewhat (but not very) ashamed that my copy is in fairly pristine condition.
― henry s, Saturday, 24 July 2010 22:16 (fifteen years ago)
He pops into the shop I work in sometimes and I always want to tell him that I love this book. But I wimp put everytime.
― Dwight Yorke, Sunday, 25 July 2010 09:20 (fifteen years ago)
you should!
what's the man up to these days?
― jed_, Sunday, 25 July 2010 12:06 (fifteen years ago)
jed, i wasn't kidding abt the turner prize!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/turner-prize/7679081/Turner-Prize-2010-shortlist-in-pictures.html?image=9
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 25 July 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)
oh right, i'll look into that.
― jed_, Sunday, 25 July 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)
looks kind of chris marker-ish?
― jed_, Sunday, 25 July 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)
he's also co-editing an upcoming edition of the journal Third Text, tentatively titled 'Third Cinema'. Dunno if he'll be writing anything for it too. (I know this because a friend of mine has translated a few articles for it, including one on Chris Marker's Loins du Vietnam. Yay my friend.)
― Merdeyeux, Sunday, 25 July 2010 12:59 (fifteen years ago)
― jed_, Sunday, 25 July 2010 13:06 (2 hours ago) Bookmark
He teaches an MA at Goldsmiths.
― Dwight Yorke, Sunday, 25 July 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)
In fact he's a lecturer in Visual/Aural Culture. ALWAYS surprised that the Guardian is 40p for some reason.
― Dwight Yorke, Sunday, 25 July 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)
it's a pound tho innit?
― jed_, Sunday, 25 July 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)
Not in our student union shop. I think most universities sell the Guardian/Independent at a discounted price (Indy's 60p here).
― Dwight Yorke, Sunday, 25 July 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
i'd be surprised every day as well!
― jed_, Sunday, 25 July 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)
looks like this is getting reprinted!https://www.amazon.com/More-Brilliant-than-Kodwo-Eshun/dp/1784786721/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1469132255&sr=1-1&keywords=kodwo+eshun
guess I should have sold my copy for a ridiculously high price? in any case, everyone should pick it up when it's out
― mh, Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:19 (nine years ago)
Much referenced since its original publication in 1998, but long unavailable, this new edition includes an introduction by Kodwo Eshun as well as texts by filmmaker John Akomfrah and producer Steve Goodman aka kode9.
:o
― mh, Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:20 (nine years ago)
it is indeed http://thequietus.com/articles/22679-more-brilliant-than-the-sun-reissue I've never read this so looking forward to picking up a copy
― André Ryu (Neil S), Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:19 (eight years ago)
It’s coming out, like, next October or something.
― the ghost of markers, Friday, 23 June 2017 00:41 (eight years ago)
https://www.versobooks.com/books/2342-more-brilliant-than-the-sun
this finally gets reissued in a couple of weeks.
― FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Friday, 28 September 2018 22:57 (seven years ago)
Is it too late to sell my original edition for a bazillion dollars?
― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 29 September 2018 01:47 (seven years ago)
Was just wondering that too. That book was my retirement plan!
― henry s, Saturday, 29 September 2018 03:16 (seven years ago)
me three
― the late great, Saturday, 29 September 2018 03:59 (seven years ago)
four fuck's sake why did i wait so long
― canary christ (stevie), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:10 (seven years ago)
this didn't actually get released and is now no longer on the Verso website and is "currently unavailable" (the new version, that is) rather than pre-order on Amazon. I tweeted Verso to ask what happened but got no reply.
― brokenshire (jed_), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)
was going to reread when the reissue came out, but I guess I’ll either read one of the pdfs or pull my (apparently increasingly valuable again) copy off the shelf. amazon usa officially cancelled preorders of the digital version, too
― mh, Saturday, 22 June 2019 23:07 (six years ago)
What's the going rate?
― djh, Sunday, 23 June 2019 19:08 (six years ago)
looks like a hundred on amazon (us)
― mh, Sunday, 23 June 2019 20:34 (six years ago)
it’s a bit dated
― the late great, Monday, 24 June 2019 02:10 (six years ago)
Richard Skelton is selling a copy here:
https://www.corbelstonepress.com/library-sale?page=4
― djh, Monday, 27 June 2022 18:13 (three years ago)
Wasn't this getting republished at some point?
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 27 June 2022 19:19 (three years ago)
lol more than one
maybe he's aiming for the 25th anniversary
― mark s, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:44 (three years ago)
Where is the best place to sell a copy of this book? Best meaning most money for least effort.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 27 June 2022 22:43 (three years ago)
I guess it depends on how you feel about Amazon?
(There's actually a copy being advertised at £197.50).
― djh, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 12:16 (three years ago)
abe has copies ("new") at £500+ and "good" at c.£400
― mark s, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 12:51 (three years ago)
and Spanish and German language copies cheapish.
― bulb after bulb, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 14:20 (three years ago)