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The Wire - December 2004 Issue

Details of the new issue of The Wire magazine.

This is the 250th issue of the magazine, and includes a free double CD, The Wire Tapper 12.

This month's free cover-mounted 40 track double CD available in shops worldwide

The Wire Tapper 12 - tracklist below, full info here

CD ONE
A 01) Daniel Biro & Rob Palmer - The Long Journey Home Part 2 (Extract)
A 02) Githead - To Have And To Hold
A 03) Bark Psychosis - From What Is Said To When It's Read (Edit)
A 04) Ateleia & David Daniell - FTP
A 05) Andy Moor & Yannis Kyriakides - 3 Lobed 1
A 06) Burnt Friedman & The Nu Dub Players - Fuck Back (3:56 Version)
A 07) Aesop Rock - Fast Cars, Danger, Fire And Knives
A 08) Pita - Resog 45
A 09) Violet - Priznak Aluminium
A 10) Michaela Melián - Brautlied (Edit)
A 11) Chas Smith - False Security Of Numbers
A 12) Martin Archer - It Don't Bother Me/Where's Mike?
A 13) Henry Grimes Trio - Flowers For Albert
A 14) The Necks - Mosquito (Excerpt)
A 15) @C - Int 10/34
A 16) Ascoltare - Crucible Process
A 17) Matthew Burtner - D2 (Edit)
A 18) Stéphane Rives - Ebranlement 2
A 19) Ergo Phizmiz - Sticky White Glue (Extract): Rectify
A 20) The Fall - Blindness


CD TWO
B 01) Cul De Sac/Damo Suzuki - Berlin 6
B 02) Meadow House - Tit For Tat
B 03) Milky Globe - The Warp And The Woof
B 04) Staalplaat Soundsystem - No Time For Space
B 05) Jason Kahn & Günter Müler - Tenth Blink
B 06) Andrew Pekler - Wait
B 07) Carter Tutti - Unreality (Edit)
B 08) DJ /Rupture Featuring Sister Nancy - Little More Oil
B 09) Burnt Sugar Vs The Dominatrix - Dominata (Remix By Qasim Naqvi &
Keith Witty)
B 10) Am/Pm - The Ends (13)
B 11) David Grubbs & Nikos Veliotis - The Harmless Dust (Excerpt)
B 12) Gary Lucas & Josef Van Wissem - A Hawk From A Handsaw
B 13) Bonnie 'prince' Billy & Matt Sweeney - Bed Is For Sleeping
B 14) Damon & Naomi - Beautiful Close Double
B 15) Fax & Alex Ayuli - Spellbound
B 16) Ana Da Silva - The Lighthouse
B 17) Christian Renou - Ex-Voto (Wire-Fm Mix)
B 18) Enigma Device - Reunified
B 19) Shining - Goretex Weather Report
B 20) M Bentley - Piano Ship (Alternative Mix)

I look forward to picking up a copy tomorrow !

What do you think of the selection of artists represented?

Anyone listened to the double CD, yet?

What tracks do you recommend?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

re: Fax & Alex Ayuli - Spellbound

Alex Ayuli from a.r.kane !

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Oi, I do hope my copy of Teh W 'll arrive in the next coupla days...

Well I can only recommend the only track I've heard from the comp:) Gary Lucas & Josef Van Wissem - A Hawk From A Handsaw (I have the CD it's from)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

pretty great cover!

http://www.thewire.co.uk/current/images/250cover.jpg

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

not heard of any of this lot bar a couple. though i do like ascoltare stuff - especially his b*stard pop 3" cd-r's that he does as a sideline ..

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I love these CDs they do every 6 months or so. I have the last 3 of them, and they are always excellent.

Nostalgia for the Old Cineramadome (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 18 November 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Argh, they could have picked a better Githead track. Still, looks good.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 18 November 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

There's two tracks on each disc I'd like to hear.

Disc 1: Aesop Rock, Henry Grimes Trio
Disc 2: Cul de Sac/Damo Suzuki, Burnt Sugar vs. the Dominatrix.

The issue looks okay in general, I guess (I've got a live review of the Revolutionary Ensemble in there somewhere).

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 18 November 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard the Aesop Rock track on KXLU. It was great on a single listen - defintiely better than anything on "Bazooka Tooth" or whatever the last one was called.

Nostalgia for the Old Cineramadome (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 18 November 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Anybody know a site that sells this single issue, in the US? I used to order single issues from See Hear, but their site seemed to be down recently.

don, Thursday, 18 November 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Aquarius and Other Music do, I believe.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 November 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.othermusic.com/

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 18 November 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I think See Hear closed, Don. I seem to recall hearing the physical location did at least.

I have mixed feelings about the Wire Tappers. I look forward to them, but sometimes I'm left uninspired by some of their choices. There's a fair amount of artists I've not heard of on this one, so who knows? I'll definitely be picking it up.

Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Thursday, 18 November 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the Wire, but im usually dissapointed by these things, a lot of the stuff they cover (especially the more eclectic stuff) doesn't work very well as a compilation, especially when they cover loads of different styles.

The Ergo Phizmiz stuff is really interesting, theres some random mp3s on his site, I love his album of Aphex covers, haven't seen much about him on here yet. He seems to be compared to Chris Morris quite a lot, his music sounds like the musical equivolent of 'Jam'.

TomB (TomB), Thursday, 18 November 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost Thanx guyz

don, Friday, 19 November 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

In Praise of the Riff ???

"Our view of music so fragmented we need to focus on a) the state of song and b) the praising of riff. To follow: c) the consideration of slapbass, d) the offness of brass and e) the quiddity of iniquity."

(ps i like da wire, jus kidding etc etc)

OleM (OleM), Friday, 19 November 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

so does this actually exist?! i couldn't find it on the weekend.

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm off to Smiths to see.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

The Dire

contribute, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

As an out-of-touch lazy non-downloader who never turns the radio on the Wire Tapper series are practically the only way I hear new music. There's probably a really fantastic C90 to be made from the entire set (I was going to say 3-inch MP3 CD-R, but that might be pushing it).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I really wanna hear these tracks

A 16) Ascoltare - Crucible Process (I see this guy around sometimes)
B 04) Staalplaat Soundsystem - No Time For Space (Staalplaat!!!)
B 07) Carter Tutti - Unreality (Edit)
B 08) DJ /Rupture Featuring Sister Nancy - Little More Oil (Sister Nancy!!!)

B 19) Shining - Goretex Weather Report (GREAT title)

Tannenbaum Schmidt (Nik), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

can't decide if i want to resubscribe or not. i keep going back and forth on it.
m.

msp (msp), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Toby, I got mine in the megastore at the TCR/Oxford St corner.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i live around the corner from the wire offices - they have no security - hmm

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i got mine in borders last night. it wasn't in borders/megastore etc on sunday though. unless i was blind.

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Just bought this (for the CD of course). Only flicked through it but a Wire feature entitled "In Praise of the Riff"? Isn't that like a bald man picking his 50 favourite combs? Haven't got round to their definition of a "riff" yet, but "Mother Sky"? That's a bassline isn't it? Oh sorry, it's a bass riff............ in other words, it's a bassline.

Den Dadaismus in seinem Lauf hält weder Ochs noch Esel auf... (Dada), Thursday, 25 November 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The include Lucier's 'I am sitting in a room...' as a riff!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 25 November 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

They

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 25 November 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Bastards!

Den Dadaismus in seinem Lauf hält weder Ochs noch Esel auf... (Dada), Thursday, 25 November 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

No 20page Keith Richards or Ron Asheton or whoever feature then

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 25 November 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"mOTHER sKY", I like loads, but the bassline hardly counts as a riff really, does it?

I might buy this, I dunno, though.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 25 November 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Keith Who? Wire should maybe stick to what they're good at - when's that Top 40 of bassoon solos in 13/8 due?

Den Dadaismus in seinem Lauf hält weder Ochs noch Esel auf... (Dada), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

There's at least one bassoon solo in 13/8 time on every Henry Cow album!

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, "Mother Sky" was the third bassline I learned, after I first bought my bass, when a "Riff" would have taxed my skillz0rx mightily. (1/"public image" 2/"transmission")

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha, you're right there Marcello!

Den Dadaismus in seinem Lauf hält weder Ochs noch Esel auf... (Dada), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Haven't got it yet but it sounds like the riff is being defined as a repeating phrase and it doesn't matter from where it comes from so either a text ('I am sitting...') or a bassline (I don't recall listening to 'mother sky') qualify?

I never hear all the tracks from these CDs.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

It's good that the last article is called Epiphany, because I was in the queue in WHSmiths to pay for this and I had an epiphany that I wasn't in the least bit interested in any of it. Fortunately the new queue system allows you to nip out in time. They ought to sort that out really.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Marshall Allen's in it. So it's not all bad.

Why Does Herr Dadaismus Run Amok? (Dada), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

He must be coming on now, old Marshall. Will be intrigued to see what he makes of the Keiji Haino and Dead C records they will doubtless play him in Invisible Jukebox (Lee Konitz in '99 re. Keiji: "Oh yeah, the guy in the leather coat." Cool School graduate, cool by nature).

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

You remember those "in a rush? why not drop a few silver coins in this bucket that sounds like you are paying in full" honesty boxes, that W.H.Smiths used to have?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I do. There was one at the door to WH Smiths at the Oxford BR station, and not once did I ever observe anyone putting any coins, silver or otherwise, in there, which is presumably why the bucket eventually disappeared (cf. people who get on bendy buses at doors other than the front one).

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I borrow these Wire Tappers (It would be more accurate to say I am loaned them, since I don't request them--someone just hands them to me) and they almost always sounds really awful to me. An awful lot of them are full of laptop/IDM twiddling, aren't they? I've heard things by names I had first seen on ILM and I sit there scratching my head, "This is the person they have that whole long thread about?" In fact I have one of these things sitting around that I should either finish listening to or return.

LaRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I have the most recent previous one. It had the liars on.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

"Lounge electronics" as Derek B calls it.

Also "In Praise Of The Riff" would have been infinitely more interesting and entertaining if they had got Dave Q to do it rather than boring old ambient fart Dave T.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

You remember those "in a rush? why not drop a few silver coins in this bucket that sounds like you are paying in full" honesty boxes, that W.H.Smiths used to have?

they still have them! at least in king's cross, anyway, and i think probably most wh smiths i ever go to. they're only supposed to be for newspapers, though.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I went to Kim's last night looking for this, and they didn't have it yet. So I bought a used copy of Daddy G's DJ Kicks disc instead. I think I'm better off.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

It only turned up in many UK newsagents yesterday.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

did I miss their issue dedicated to arpeggios?

contribute, Thursday, 25 November 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

this is the dullest issue of The Wire ever.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 26 November 2004 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

100 short summaries of pieces of music we talk about all the time anyway.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 26 November 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone who subscribes received their copy yet? I would have thought mine would have arrived by now.

leigh (leigh), Friday, 20 May 2005 08:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Checks pigeonhole... no!

NickB (NickB), Friday, 20 May 2005 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Oops, I beg yer puddin, it just turned up. Hmmm, one of those big horrible theme survey cover stories, this time on comedy in music. The Wire discovers that humour and music do mix eh? hey, thanks for pointing that out guys! Otherwise, a Dockstader interview and a Mark Stewart jukebox. Oh, and a CD too.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

"Does Humor Belong In Wire?"

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't suppose they do the Goodies, do they?

No, I didn't think so.

How many funnies did Coil and Nurse With Wound do then?

That's the other thing about Ben W and Ian P; at their best they are extremely funny (that Patti Smith review by Penman last year had me falling about in hysterics).

Ah well...that's another four quid saved...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Nurse With Wound did LOTS of funny things - "Red Flipper", "The Sylvie and Babs" album, that Registered Nurse thingy

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

... of course once they stopped being funny that's when all the Art Goths got in to them

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm guessing the free CD isn't chock full of funnies, yeah?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

You read the Wire or listen to Resonance these days, everyone in it sounds like they're trapped, viz. we don't get what they REALLY want to write/broadcast, they've all got to confirm to this grey, worthy, dead "house style."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

or even "conform" to it.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

(news of a Wolf Eyes tour and Ali Farka Toure at the Barbican momentarily dispell the horror)

NickB (NickB), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Sounds OTM to me

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Admittedly, Ali Farka Toure and Wolf Eyes would be an interesting combination...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

...together, I mean. Would certainly liven up the Jools Holland show.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

... they'd probably end up being produced by Daniel Lanois and appearing in the slot in the Jools Holland Show where everybody gets up to make a cup of tea

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

... oops, slight xpost!

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a shame that Les Dawson didn't live long enough to host that show instead of Jools really.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd love to have heard him sitting in with Van Morrison.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Give this man a job at the BBC

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

What a shame Eric Morecambe didn't live long enough to edit the Wire!

I must try and think of some Itchy and Scratchy-style scenarios where Jools Holland gets horribly and fatally mutilated on a weekly basis. That would improve the ratings!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Roy Castle would have been a good host - he could have accompanied a guest star on a different instrument each week...

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Anything on Jamie Lidell?

leigh (leigh), Friday, 20 May 2005 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

My June '05 Wire turned up today, yes. It's the last one I'll ever get so I'm in no rush to read it.

If only we could've lived long enough to have seen Jack Hargreaves host Later... and Rodney Marsh edit The Wire.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 20 May 2005 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

mmm... humor in music. i hate to take an anti-intellectual stand about this, because i normally respect the wire's approach, but i really feel like making serious study of humor in music almost guarantees absolutely NO actual wit/candor. aaaaaaaaaaand the wire is sorta humorless. i dunno.

peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 20 May 2005 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Hopefully mine will be waiting for me when i get home or the postie will be getting a kicking.

leigh (leigh), Friday, 20 May 2005 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

>i hate to take an anti-intellectual stand about this, because i normally respect the wire's approach, but i really feel like making serious study of humor in music almost guarantees absolutely NO actual wit/candor. aaaaaaaaaaand the wire is sorta humorless. i dunno.

They let me make fun of Whitehouse, but they turned down my idea of writing about Weasel Walter's black-metal tribute to Masayuki Takayanagi. Whether that tells you anything about what the larger piece will wind up being like, I don't know. (I haven't seen it yet, and probably won't for at least a couple of weeks.)

pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The newsstand by my place just put up the one with Electrelane on the cover, but there's no CD on it... is there an issue after this one?

On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Saturday, 21 May 2005 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The Electrelane cover is the May issue (there was a Marke comp CD with that for subscribers only); the June issue has a silhouette of a falling grand piano on the cover and comes with Wire Tapper 13 - which (on first, changing-the-baby, doing-the-dishes, not-really-paying-attention listen) is probably the most easily digestible comp they've ever put out. Still not renewing though.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 21 May 2005 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Out of the forty musicians pictured in the humour in music section only one of them has a smile on their face. OK the Aphex Twin has as well but he's using his fingers pushed into his mouth to force it, so he doesn't count.

Bohn doesn't mention Nick Cave in his editorial but only because it's Blixa and Einsturzende Neubauten's turn.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
"Does Humor Belong In Wire?"

Having read the article and feature I can categorically state that the answer to this question is no

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope you read it in Smiths and weren't fool enough to waste four quid on buying it.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Unfortunately I had a long train journey and only Ben Pimlott's biography of Harold Wilson for company

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

For a second I misread that as "Ben Watson's biography of Harold Wilson." If only.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)

... can he be persuaded to pursue such a venture?

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Sample index:

Wilson, Harold:

understanding of music of Derek Bailey, 4, 8, 12-18, 26-189, 440-527, 808

attendance at Little Theatre Club, 225

on Merz, 316

parallels with Zappa, 1-1258 passim

Benjamin, misreading of, 531-534

pic taken with Esther when she was ten awww, 402

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)

He's already done one couthy old Yorkshire git...

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Harold Wilson was definitely the most underated of the Beach Boys.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"Columnated ruins domino, as I was saying at the Bournemouth conference..."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)

... and George Brown as Brian Wilson in that case

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Foot as Mike Love?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Foot is more Charles Manson

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually Mike Love should probably be the man whom BBC News always called "Dr David Rowing."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

For:

"Better George Brown drunk than Harold Wilson sober"

Read:

"Better Brian Wilson on acid than Mike Love meditating"

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
this months editorial mention: Einsturzende Neubauten; which was last months too. Bohn hasn't mentioned Nick Cave in his editorial for 3 months now. he's slacking.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 27 June 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

another annoying thing about this month's issue: Kenan reviews the Jandek "Glasgow Sunday" CD but refers to Jandek throughout the article as Smith. I didn't know Jandek's real name was Sterling R. Smith so it's fine that Kenan mentions that in the first paragraph but to go on referring to him as Smith at least ten or twelve times in the review is pretentious and annoying. "it looks like Youngs and Nielson were recommended to Smith rather than requested by him"; "Smith's current guitar for is most immediately related..."; "Smith seems to be soloing more...". he only refers to him as Jandek once!

jed_ (jed), Monday, 27 June 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

How did they find out his name?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 27 June 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

I kow that his name has been known for years, but I'm not sure who originally figured it out.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

This is an extreme reversal of the usual Heinz baby food spoonfeeding in which Wire writers are compelled to indulge, viz. every Cecil Taylor review refers to "pianist Cecil Taylor" (presumably so as not to be confused with the Pontypridd hod carrier Cecil Taylor) etc. I understand perfectly why they do this, but issue after issue, article after article - it actually has the effect of slowing down/deadening one's brain.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

i love that style of writing, the economist seem to have given up on it, they always used to say things like "the fast food chain McDonalds" etc etc.

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

"scotland, north of england" was a favourite of the washington post iirc.

i mean, which? scotland or the north of england?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)


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