Mos Def: C or D?

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So, after hearing his new album the question is simple: Mos Def - Cunt or Dick?

― Pikmin, Friday, 19 November 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm one of the only people who really likes the new album, but i saw him in concert and he stared at a video projection of him on stage the ENTIRE show and his shirt was off. not cool

― JaXoN (JasonD), Saturday, 20 November 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never gotten into him that much. He's really cute though.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 20 November 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

His misguided self-belief borders on the hilarious.

Just think, at one point he managed to hoodwink a large group of the music buying public into thinking he was the future of hip-hop.

― Pikmin, Saturday, 20 November 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"New World Water" though is classic... how many hiphop. nay any genre of music, tunes are warning about the impending doomsday scenario of water shortage???

― Tannenbaum Schmidt (Nik), Saturday, 20 November 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

There's prolly a reason for the lack of songs about it...

― Pikmin, Saturday, 20 November 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the new album is wonderful but I don't know the last one. The singing is really warm and pretty and the guitars sound like Hendrix and Zeppelin sometimes!

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

1999: classic

2004: DUD. maybe.

The New Danger sorta blows, despite the tongue-bath I gave him for "Sex Love and Money" a month or so ago. sundar: get to know the last one. CLASSIC. This one is some self-indulgent bullshit.

Also: "New World Water" is fucking garbage. I USED to think to myself "ooh, this guy's rapping about an interesting, cutting-edge political issue." Then, after listening to the lyrics again about a week ago, I realized that it's really just a stupid song with childish lyrics about....water. Seriously: the lyrics are fucking inane. It's like he wrote a bunch of possible topics on pieces of paper and pulled them out of his stupid pork-pie hat. "water" happened to be first, but it could have just as easily been "planes" or "animals."

...bear this in mind: I was expecting "the New Danger" to be the second coming. Mos let me down. I am filled with anger and disappointment.

― skowly (skowly), Saturday, 20 November 2004 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I will grant that there are some dumb lyrics (particularly "Quasi-homosexuals is running this rap shit").

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 20 November 2004 05:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"New World Water" though is classic... how many hiphop. nay any genre of music, tunes are warning about the impending doomsday scenario of water shortage???

btw: this is exactly the kind of hoodwinking (xxx-post) he's so guilty of. I fell for it, too.

"oh man! this guy knows his shit!!! And here I thought the looming specter of hydro-political catastrophe was known only to myself and my Geography prof! Mos is waaaaay smarter than all those gangsteRRRs."

And then you hear this:

New world water makes the tide rise high
Come in land and makes your house go bye

― skowly (skowly), Saturday, 20 November 2004 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post) The Rape-over is the stupid-est, yes.

....(I'm listening to New World Water again. It's not that bad, actually. Pretty good. I think I'm just pissed-off because of the New D.)

― skowly (skowly), Saturday, 20 November 2004 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Does the previous album have the same guitar sound?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 20 November 2004 05:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Nope.

Black on Both Sides is a little more straight ahead hip-hop (but not all slavishly "trad" or anything).

― skowly (skowly), Saturday, 20 November 2004 05:23 (twenty-one years ago)

See, that's the thing. I might love the old album anyway but this (along with the vocals) is what appeals to me about the new album, what seems to make it special.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 20 November 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

He's really cute though.

It's the eyes, isn't it?

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 20 November 2004 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)

If I ever see the fucker again I'lll wring his neck. He now ties with Nas at the top of my list of Rappers I Once Adored But Now Have Entirely Given Up On.

― Pikmin, Saturday, 20 November 2004 10:23 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...

i saw him in concert and he stared at a video projection of him on stage the ENTIRE show and his shirt was off. not cool

hahaha

― sleep (sleep), Monday, 18 July 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

that sounds awesome!

― sleep (sleep), Monday, 18 July 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

And "New World Water" is classic. Fuckin' guys will dis rappers for shitty lyrics but give Bernard Sumner and Paul Banks a pass.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 18 July 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

'Black on Both Sides' is still mostly great. But, yes, he's pretty disappointing since.

He's got a great voice.

"Mathematics" is great, "My Umi Says" is better than 99.9% of "nu-soul,"Climb," dub-hop bass on "Got". Good album.

― I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 18 July 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

Using Kenny G to represent all white contribution to jazz is more than a little cheap, though.

Still, I like hearing anybody talk shit about Elvis Presley, so I forgive.

― I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

i saw mos def a few months ago in berkeley and it was one of if not the better hip hop shows that i've been to this year. he performed for over 2 hours, lots of freestyles and a capellas, he debuted new material, and he was very personnable...he was cracking jokes and totally muggign for the audience. shit, Tom Waits was sitting a row in front of me and he was getting down the entire night.

and the new danger was/is great! kinda like the love below only with better lyrics and a harder edge. it was a lot better than the last two talib albums or the newest common album, which i thought both slipped into self-parody. people are sleeping.

― s>c>, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)

he was great when i saw him at bumbershoot a few years back.

― Sym Sym (sym), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

Black Star has its moments.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

He's a very decent actor.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 03:41 (twenty years ago)

I think Blackstar proves he's a very decent rapper as well.

― Don Rowlando (Sam Rowlands), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

He was marvelous in the Kevin Bacon film "The Woodsman."

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

He sucks and has always sucked since the days of his cameo on that De La Soul album. He's unbearably bad these days, though, with his session musician rock albums and his embarrassing "i'm not a backpacker no more!!! I be in da club too, yo!!" attempts at club tracks.

The handful of listenable tracks i remember by him (the singles off the Black Star lp, "hip hop" off his first album and that "beef" song Minnesota from Money Boss Players produced and was on the Chapelle show) were a waste of decent beats.

Now, i also dislike his boy Kweli but i'd rather listen to his two good songs ("the blast" and "get by") than anything by Mos Def.

― Ellis, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

"If You Can Huh You Can Hear" is totally classic.

― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

do you mean "crosstown beef"? that was produced by posdunous or however it's spelled.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

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