TS: The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld and Space

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One is the acknowledged masterpiece of of the now-dated genre known as Ambient House, the other is recordings of said acknowledged masterpiece albeit stripped of many samples/melodies/etc. due to artist fallout/bitchiness/legal wranglings. One is fun, trippy, light and fairly influential, the other is dark, trippy, spacey, and barely heard. One is full, rich and makes fun of Pink Floyd, the other is sparse, repetitious and Zeit-esque in places. One is by a man a former Killing Joke roadie who burned out, the other by a KLF-er who faded away.

So, which is better?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 21 November 2004 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Neither. Orb's Peel Session is the best.

cdwill, Sunday, 21 November 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i suspect that not enough people have heard Space to make the comparison. i think i agree with cdwill to an extent (though i have only heard space once).

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 21 November 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't like Space all that much. I love Chill Out, and I like Adventures... a lot. As cdwill says, the first Peel session is great and better than the corresponding tracks on the albums, but to answer the question, I think Space is the poorest of all the above.

KeithW (kmw), Sunday, 21 November 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Space, the "Saturn" section is a great lost track.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 21 November 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

gotta agree that Peel Sessions is awesome but the Patterns and Textures Version of Adventures is the best version of the album IMHO. a friend put the VHS on DVD and i've been watching it this afternoon. Highly recommended viewing and listening...the live versions are better than what was released on ORBLIVE93. I trackmarked the live disc to accomodate easier listening...i'd love to trade a copy for Space if anyone's interested.

biznotic, Sunday, 21 November 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone know the orb track which is basically just a backing with a audio play of two people getting busted for dope and then they go to the court house and the judge gets stoned and letts them off.

it looks totally weak when you write it down but it sadly was one of the sounds of my youth.

been trying to find it for 10+ years.

Danny.

danny boy (danny boy), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer -- saw that you mentioned this track on another thread. Are you sure you're talking about "Saturn"? Given, I've only dl'd it. But what I have isn't particularly techno -- if anything, that's "Mars" or "Uranus"...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 22 November 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

As for the Peel Sessions love, it was the first Orb record I bought (ca. 1991 or so, I guess) -- I particularly dug "Back Side of the Moon", as I recall. Used to go to bed to it...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 22 November 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

sounds a bit like -->The Reefer Song-Mindless Drug Hoover (Grass Garden Of Child's Mix)

it's the one that goes: "It's a Reefer do you want some officer" etc.

biznotic, Monday, 22 November 2004 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

seven years pass...

Revisiting this TS eight years later. Agree that the "Huge...Brain" on Peel Sessions is the best version -- but Space seems to have dated well.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 6 January 2012 14:40 (fourteen years ago)

Ultraworld vs. Chill Out would be interesting. I'm always surprised to find that there are Orb fans out there who don't have that album.

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 14:44 (fourteen years ago)

Perhaps we should do a poll!

Just listened to Chill Out this am. The thing that strikes me now about all three records is how much I used to think they were about bringing pure sound to pop. Listening to them with 21st century ears, it's pretty clear the genre never totally left the Chill Out room at the Land of Oz. All the way up thru Orbus Terrarum, these records are more about exploiting the hyper-contrast between texture and rhythm. They obviously all do it a little differently -- where Chill Out does it with Midwestern pedal steel guitars, Terrarum does it w 70s prog. But they all taking the listener to curious zero-gravity places before bringing you back to earth with beats, rhythms and arpeggios. In retrospect, that makes it all a little less ambitious than I thought it was -- but it's still kinda interesting.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 6 January 2012 14:59 (fourteen years ago)

there wasn't really that much steel guitar in Chill Out, was there?

i can see what you're saying, but that's kind of how I always looked at the albums. for all the talk about how 'different' they were it always struck me as new ways of doing old things (which is what I liked about it). right now Orbus Terrarum is the one that holds up for me the best because there's so much complexity to everything and it gets better as it goes on (unlike U.F. Orb, which I've always felt got boring after "Towers of Dub")

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:08 (fourteen years ago)

Alex Patterson and Youth did a good interview with Spin about Little Fluffy Clouds 20ys later.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:38 (fourteen years ago)

Link here: http://www.spin.com/articles/orb-look-back-20-years-little-fluffy-clouds. I had no idea Prince stole the groove on the Symbol record!

There's a lot of steel guitar on Chill Out -- both BJ Cole (I believe) as well as the stuff on the Elvis song that's sampled.

I agree -- Terrarum really holds up. I'm even starting to dig thru the FFWD record, which never floated by boat back in the 90s, but sounds a bit better to my ears today.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 6 January 2012 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

There's a lot of steel guitar on Chill Out -- both BJ Cole (I believe)

Don't know about there being any BJ Cole, most of it is from unused stuff Evil Graham Lee played when the Triffids were the backing band on Bill's solo record.

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Saturday, 7 January 2012 02:40 (fourteen years ago)


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