Is it still called ECLECTIC WARRIOR?
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 22 November 2004 08:40 (twenty years ago)
― haitch haitch haitch (or any three repetitive sounds) (haitch), Monday, 22 November 2004 09:06 (twenty years ago)
― stirmonster, Monday, 22 November 2004 09:12 (twenty years ago)
― JoB (JoB), Monday, 22 November 2004 09:13 (twenty years ago)
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 22 November 2004 09:25 (twenty years ago)
― toby (tsg20), Monday, 22 November 2004 10:16 (twenty years ago)
― stirmonster, Monday, 22 November 2004 10:18 (twenty years ago)
― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 22 November 2004 10:44 (twenty years ago)
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 22 November 2004 10:46 (twenty years ago)
― Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Monday, 22 November 2004 10:53 (twenty years ago)
― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 22 November 2004 11:04 (twenty years ago)
― Jason J, Monday, 22 November 2004 11:21 (twenty years ago)
Unless its called Eclectic Avenue or something even worse.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 22 November 2004 11:34 (twenty years ago)
― Robin Goad (rgoad), Monday, 22 November 2004 11:54 (twenty years ago)
I find it to be near unlistenable. If anyone wants to buy a promo copy of it off me then please post up here.
― Pikmin, Monday, 22 November 2004 11:59 (twenty years ago)
― briania (briania), Monday, 22 November 2004 12:08 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 22 November 2004 12:56 (twenty years ago)
― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 22 November 2004 13:04 (twenty years ago)
― Lazza, Monday, 22 November 2004 16:27 (twenty years ago)
― joan vich (joan vich), Monday, 22 November 2004 17:14 (twenty years ago)
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 22 November 2004 18:47 (twenty years ago)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 22 November 2004 21:01 (twenty years ago)
Don't be ridiculous. If Pikmin got her/his copy for free, (s)he should send it to you for postage only.
Plus I wanted to say Eclectic Youth.
― JoB (JoB), Monday, 22 November 2004 21:56 (twenty years ago)
― Alexises, Monday, 22 November 2004 22:19 (twenty years ago)
when is this coming out?
24 January (in Europe, anyway).
― JoB (JoB), Monday, 22 November 2004 22:29 (twenty years ago)
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― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)
this is a fucking serious shit issue, the copy control, which i found out about when making the cover art and suddenly getting art to approve with this fucking horrible logo on it. i fought it then, and lost, and i'm fighting it now. as far as i'm concerned it's fucking retarded. if you buy the cd and it doesn't play, that's absurd. if that's the case, can you just rip it off the internet? i'm sorry about this, but i don't know how it works in europe. here in the us it's pretty easy to download stuff.
anyway, at some point the corporate stucture at EMI has to get a sense that it loses them sales so that they will change their policy, so if you want to boycott my record, please feel free to.
if you want to treat me like your enemy and be a spoiled brat about it, well, people are their own punishment. live it up. i won't "be surprised" if someone comes and talks to me about it at a fucking show. jesus. are you that ignorant about how the world works? do you really think i'm sitting on some rock throne bending my will to screw over certainparts of the world with copy-controlled cd's? if wou want to open your parent-fed mouths and say something (especially in a forum that reaches me) you might want to do a little research and read one of the 8-million interviews i've done (widely available on the web) where i've said i thin kthe copy control is retarded and feel that people should just rip the music that their cd players won't play.
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 20 March 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)
DK: What up g-thang?
LCDS: krrshhhrshhkkhrshh – Sorry man, I think you just called me when I was in the 7-11. How’s it going?
Awesome. What are you listening to today?
Today? I was listening to the BLACK DEVIL DISCO COMP on my headphones in the store.
I don’t know that, but it sounds hot. Now be honest, do you like the new Daft Punk?
Daft Punk? I actually haven’t listened to the album.
[Lil’ Jon voice] WHAAAT!? But you wrote a goddam song abou--Well, NOT until last night. Robot Rock is alright – I have a feeling it all might grow on me – I didn’t like Discovery when it came out, but I do now.
Would you agree that LCD and DFA have reached that rare zone of critical near-unassailability, kind of like Daft Punk for awhile? Was there ever any calculation, or did things just end up so good by being at the right place, right time, with the right sound?
I dunno, I don’t think we’re unassailable. I think we’re WALKING TARGETS essentially – it’s just a matter of time before the press comes out with a well-thought out backlash. As for calculation … it’s in my nature, and it’s in Tim [Goldsworthy]’s nature to constantly be checking ourselves, and you know, be attacking each other mercilessly to make this record. Tim and I have both been in situations where we’re surrounded by a lot of hype – like with Unkle and Mo’Wax. You start to realize that it’s a pretty empty, silly endeavor, and that it’s more important that we’re making music we like. It allows us to minimize all the stupid, predictable shit one would do to try and ‘manage’ the hype machine.
Have you ever knocked someone out because they shouted “MORE COWBELL” at you?[laughs] Uhh, not to this day.
Okay, let’s talk album. How come you didn’t put WHERE IS LOVE on the album? That was hot![laughs] Oh man, I HATE that song!
What? It’s hot!Aw, well it can exist as an internet thing or whatever – I don’t like it, it has no relevance to my life! It’s old, and it sounds too much like Peaches….
ROFFLES! Hey, just to clear something up, is there an Eno influence on “Great Release?”YES. Eno’s an influence on everything we do.
Speaking of influence: how much do you guys, or the planet while we’re at it, owe to ESG?I loved ESG because they sounded – and still sound – so incredibly fresh to me. I just like how simple and completely free of macho bullshit they were. I think a lot of people try to take from them, but they fail so miserably – so I don’t know how much the world owes them. [laughs]
In my best songs of 2004 list, there was Usher’s YEAH, and your YEAH. Who do YOU think won?I think we won – on UNDERDOG POWER.
Speaking of YEAH, I notice that all the indie clubs that play it never play the awesome acid freakout coda! That’s some sorry shit. Do you think that indie kids still have a ways to go before fully embracing pure dance sounds?Well I think that if you go to a place where people AREN’T DANCING, it won’t make much sense. That’s funny, because when I DJ, I ONLY play the end. I START with the SYNTHS.
That’s RUGGED. So when do you think one of your tracks is going to end up on the O.C.? Haha.I think…..May?
For real? Do you like the O.C.?Oh, I wouldn’t know, I don’t watch much T.V.
Well I don’t watch O.C. either. Those FUCKING haircuts!
― LeCoq (LeCoq), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)
I suspect this may hold for many of the records which I have slagged off in recent times.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)
Although saying "this album is really good!" when I checkout befuddles me when this is the first DFA release I've seen in their store (well, outside of The Rapture).
― mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine. Sweeter than a lorry load of white Toblerones. (Eastern Mantr, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
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― walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 26 March 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)
― Hat0r (Jacob), Thursday, 31 March 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)
I am mad at missing out on that eBay disco ball auction. $10.49 is a fucking steal.
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Saturday, 14 May 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 14 May 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Saturday, 14 May 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)
So instead of being all Rockist about everything, I decided to open my ears and check a whole pile of stuff out, first on the list being LCD Soundsystem.
Bet it's good live. Fun to hear in a bar. They are a singles band, much like The Rapture. You sure can hear how The Rapture became a DFA guinea pig after listening to this LCD album.The constant referencing, the hipster canon shone through Murphy's prism. It's entirely good fun, but I really can't give it much more credit than that.
I'd far rather listen to ESG, PIL, Can, Eno, Beatles, The Fall, than listen to this. Now if Murphy was able to go beyond his fandom and digest his influences, we might see something pretty tremendous. Right now, the LCD record gives me the same feeling "Echoes" did. I feel like I'm listening to some alternate universe K-Tel hipster mix. It's all too precious. Laid out for consumption by people who buy all the Pitchfork "Best New Music" picks and make sure you know about it.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)
It sounds like an album orchestrated by a man that likes too much music.
..which is essentially a nicer phrasing of what you just said. The differences are: a) you think Pitchfork has something to do with this, which I highly doubt, and b) you think there's something wrong with making an album blatantly showcasing the artists' love for other artists. I don't see what's wrong with that mechanism at all, even if obvious. I just care if it sounds good at the end or not. And I like it.
That said, LCD Soundsystem isn't *the* album of the year, so far, for me -- but I find it very pleasant, has some flow, although each track works EXCELLENTLY when disconnected from the album itself -- like when used on mix tapes or whatever. (Also, I think the live shows are a gazillion times better than the album, personally.)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)
I actually haven't heard the second disc!
― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)
I guess I'm waiting for someone to really add their own stamp to it? I think James Murphy is capable of it. Think of the music like a fabric - I expect a tighter weave in the future. I would hope I wouldn't be able to discern the individual strands so easily. Here's the Talking Heads part, Eno, Keith Levene guitar, MES vocalizing. I want to hear the James Murphy part.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)
yeah but it's really fucking good
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)
(Were you here for all the Interpol dissections?)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)
It's REALLY easy with LCD!
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)
― 666 (Robust Cookies), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)
― 666 (Robust Cookies), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)
When you enjoy a banana split, do you think of it as an agglomeration of one scoop of vanilla ice cream, one scoop of strawberry ice cream, 5 fluid ounces of chocolate syrup, 2.5 seconds of whipped cream discharge, 1/2 teaspoon of chopped peanuts, and two mid-sized peeled bananas?
Or do you think of it as a banana split?
Or do you think of both a little, but decide to just dive in and enjoy it without thinking too hard about what you're consuming?
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)
It's entirely obvious to me that LCD Soundsystem, The Rapture, !!!, etc. are all about diving in and enjoying without thinking too hard. All three bands make music for DANCING. And people want to dance. I don't blame them after years of math rock and stiff indie pop.
I just honestly, truly, deeply believe that there's more room for innovation.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)
I don't look for innovation in music (or food.) Innovation hits me over the head from behind. That's how it works.
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
LCD Soundssystem innovative to me? No.
Do I like it? Hell yeah.
Innovative to others? Definitely.
THEN, do those others like it? Not necessarily.
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)
But would I like to be hit over the head from behind by some RIGHT NOW.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 1 July 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago)
I must say despite thinking this record sucks, LCD Soundsystem live are incredible! Why did nobody mention that they cover "Throw" by Paperclip People?
but to reiterate the album is crap.
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 1 July 2005 14:25 (nineteen years ago)
One of the best albums I've heard in a long time.
― Joseph B. Cowart (flamingrev), Friday, 1 July 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago)
― W i l l (common_person), Friday, 1 July 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago)
I still think I like the album, though I never think to put it on.
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 1 July 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Riff Central, Friday, 1 July 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 1 July 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)
do they ever play yr city's a sucker live? i think that's my 4th fav (after the big three: yeah (stupid), losing, beat conn, but above even daft punk -- the woohoos get me)
― W i l l (common_person), Friday, 1 July 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago)
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