― mike a, Monday, 29 November 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― chuck, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)
Leroy and Asa vs. Fujiyama Mama
― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Magic City (ano ano), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)
(And Robin Lane was never punk at all, no. Not on record, at least, and not on the five song live EP. I kind of think of Lane and the Chartbusters more as Quarterflash without the saxophone, and doing only ballads, no Benatar or Miami-sound type stuff. Which means Quarterflash without Quarterflash's best stuff. Which still leaves Quaterflash's worst stuff. Which was still pretty good.) (Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Lane basically a Christian rocker? Or am I confusing her with somebody else?)
― chuck, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― chuck, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)
The first two Rachel Sweet albums, on the other hand, fucking RULE.
(And maybe Brian Briggs is closer on the punk continuum to Moon Martin than to Eddie and the Hot Rods, rockabillywise. He definitely outrocks Rocky Burnette, though.)
― chuck, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)
highlight of my band's career: playing a cover of rachel sweet's "who does lisa like," about a year ago, and then offering a beer, or something along those lines, to anyone who knew who did the original. someone yelled out, "i played on the demo!" turned out, he actually did. it was chris butler from the waitresses.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)
Robin Lane, no contest. Pearl Harbor & the Explosions couldn't write."You Got It/Release It" was energetic/frenetic but not catchy. Robin Lane went fron folk to electrified bar band rock really fast. "When Things Go Wrong" earned a lot of play by me.
First album Holly & the Italians was a bit better than both. She had a tuneful way with a big electric rhythm guitar and sweet voice.
And none of these bands beat Marge Raymond and Flame who killed them with a hookier, brassier and more heavy rock sound which packed concussion.
― George Smith, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)
Chuck, I can't believe that you don't own the first Holly album!!! It's a wonderful wonderful thing. Really top-notch. You, more than most, need to own a copy.
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)
Both Holly LP's are essential.
― DR Scott, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― chuck, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)
Legal Weapon, another to cheer for. "Your Weapon" has "Equalizer" on it. Kat Arthur had her gun, she knew how to use it and was gonna. "Interior Hearts" was OK -- less boom-bang -- title cut was OK. Moved up to MCA for "LIfe Sentence to Love," a record I remember liking a lot, probably because of the lead-off track, "Hurt."
Advantage slight to Legal Weapon who paid more attention to songwriting and had some quantity in the catalog. But 1994 might almost be there in a tie, win out depending on mood, because the debut is really a standalone gem, erasing any sin of the subsequent flop.
Good contrast of talent bungled at the major label level with the indie crawling slowly along in the California punk rock scene getting more satisfaction. Nothing in print of either, I bet.
― George Smith, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― don, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 08:00 (twenty-one years ago)
I thought Patty Donahue sang "I Know What Boys Like." Holly Vincent was in and out of the band but the singer/songstress on "Boys" sounded totally unlike her. Waitresses were supposedly related to Tin Huey.
― George Smith, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)
I'll have to look up that Looking Glass track, Ken.
― DR SCott, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)
yup, patty donohue sang all the waitresses' hits.
tin huey co-founder chris butler was the man behind the waitresses. he still plays in various projects around new york and ohio, and has done some tin huey reunion shows of late.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― DR SCott, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)
Tin HueyWhen I was coming up, when I used to listen to the radio of the non-college, non-streaming variety, I always enjoyed it when on Wednesday they would play that guy from Tin Huey going "Humpday, Humpday, Humpday." It denoted Wednesday-ness the same way that guy from Yello going "Oh, yeah!" denotes Brat-packer-getting-it-on-ness.
― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)
and transylvania vamp decently covered "Tell That Girl to Shut Up."
― chuck, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― don, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― don, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― chuck, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)
(Whom I've never heard - I'm just desperate to contribute. I'll take Robin Lane because I've never heard Pearl Harbour - or, surprisingly, never come across any of her albums in the used bins. But apparently it's back in print as of 2003, so I may check it out.)
― Myonga Von Banzai (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― DR SCott, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 September 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 19 September 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)
Essentials of Fake New Wave
http://www.spin.com/articles/blame-the-knack-fake-new-wave-feeding-frenzy-essentials/
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:26 (twelve years ago)
Nice! I only own one of those, Sue Saad. "Young Girl" is my favorite on that album, and I had never seen this video before today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJsPqdHsSaA
― New Authentic Everybootsy Collins (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:22 (twelve years ago)
Love the reviews, xhuxk. I'd never heard of #8 so I'll be on the lookout. In your review of the Brains, you'll want to specify who "he" is in the line about xgau's grade.
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 00:13 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, I noticed that -- must've slipped out somewhere in the editing process. Thanks though...
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 00:38 (twelve years ago)
I couldn't find a single thread that talked about "fake new wave". Some here & thereDoug & the Slugs Vs. Frankie & the KnockoutsBands in the "powerpop" chapter of the 1980 new wave guide I just bought for http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=46289 off a seemingly homeless guy set up on the sidewalk of St Marks Bands nobody ever talks about anymore in the "America" chapter of the 1980 new wave guide I just bought for http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=46263 off a seemingly homeless guy set up on the sidewalk of St Marks
Will def keep an eye out for the 7 I haven't got (tho would likely have crate-exhumed them anyhow based on the covers & the names)
I think Doug & the Slugs fits the bill. They did some great new wave (the first side of Wrap It! is especially awesome) but at the root of it they were a bar band with a hard-on for the mainstream. For a while, though, they hid it pretty well; with lyrics like "I've been to those rooftop jamborees, livin' in the wrong key / Spent some time as an urban mastermind, took a little chemistry / All by myself I learned that crowds are only good for hiding / Could I be a part of another time?" they hit some Devo-ish notes that won't be too familiar for folks who only know them from their proto-Smash Mouth singles "Too Bad" and "Makin' it Work".
Great article, Chuck! Nice equation between the two eras. Something that might be worth mentioning is that exactly the same thing happened in the alt-rock era, too: all these stupid provincial hard-rock bands stopped spraying their hair and grew goatees & became alt-rockers instead. I can't think of good examples (maybe STP?) off the top of my head & am too lazy to research, but that's another thread anyway.
― Has talent, needs to figure out how to improve (staggerlee), Sunday, 27 October 2013 02:31 (twelve years ago)
Thanks! And Wrap It! was actually in my original list of 8 albums! But rightly or wrongly I got cold feet about it; bumped it for Brains, I think.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 27 October 2013 03:41 (twelve years ago)
I'd have died of joy had Wrap It! made the cut. I don't know anyone else on the planet who rates it.
― Has talent, needs to figure out how to improve (staggerlee), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 15:13 (twelve years ago)
Never knew that
― We Shield Millions Now Living Who Will Never Die (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 March 2014 00:56 (eleven years ago)
I forgot this thread existed. I DJd at a local record store recently, all of the records played had to come out of their used bins. Had great fun pulling out Pearl Harbor, Robin Lane and Sue Saad. Also played Poco's "Good Feeling To Know" and thought of Scott's Poco fandom!
― Competent Cracker Barrel Manager (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 16:14 (ten years ago)
RIP Leroy Radcliffe.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 March 2021 19:46 (four years ago)