Richard D. James: Search & Destroy

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I know there are Classic or Dud and Aphex Twin/Rephlex Records S & D threads knocking about, but the latter ended up being about non-RDJ Rephlex records.

Thing is, this might sound weird, but the last thing of his I bought was the Universal Indicator EP in about 1992. Other than that, I just have the Analogue Bubblebath/Digeridoo 12" and the first Polygon Window EP. I didn't mean to stop buying his records. The Selected Ambient Works was on my 'records to buy' list for years, when I had such a thing. But now I feel like finally catching up. What should I buy?

N., Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the richard d james album, for frazzled and exciting pop clarity. a drill'n'bass bryter layter.

i care because you do, for pastoral beauty

hgtaer, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I was going to start a thread about how SAW II is one of the most overrated records of all time, but I may as well just insert it here. I just bought it for the second time last week (I sold it a couple of years ago, but saw it used cheap & thought I'd give it another chance) and I can't understand what is so great about it. I don't hate it or anything. It just sounds like a decent Vangelis score to me, very synth-soundtracky in a way that feels entirely too familiar. Love the first one, though.

Mark, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i have never liked saw ii either, and i wasn't that fussed by the first one

gareth, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll third that - I never understood what some people saw in SAW II. I could never engage with it more that thinking it was 'ok'... too cold and distant, maybe. and not in a good way.

clive, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

OK, so I get the message to avoid SAW vol 2.

N., Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, no, I love it.

Melissa W, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What does it do for you, Melissa?

Mark, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Classics is my favorite.

Ian, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It sounds like it's seeping out of the walls when I put it on.

Melissa W, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeach!

N., Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

SAW II is godlike for the third track alone. Simon R. compared it to Arvo Part upon release and he's not far off. The whole thing is wonderful in my ears, but by its very nature suffers in lacking much of the sheer sense of twisted playfulness evident nearly everywhere else in his work -- even the first SAW had more instances of same. But SAW II is probably the only 'ambient' release of the time I still listen to on a semi-regular basis.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is that disc one, track 3, Ned? I'm going to see if I can hear what you hear.

Mark, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, i wandered around in a snowstorm in the middle of the night with SAW II (disc I) on...and it was the most overwhelming sound/vision experience I've had in quite some time. Behind tripping balls and watching the Butthole Surfers. yeah.

Gage-o, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is that disc one, track 3, Ned?

That would be the one. Your mileage may vary etc.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree with Ned. Track three, disc one, is a stunner. It has an immediate effect on my mood and perception. Its like instant meditation.

bnw, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I didn't get SAW 2 first time around, my expectations were high (too high) and I found it all a bit formless, vague, and wall-papery, like some strange futuristic elevator muzak.

Now it rivals SAW 1 for my affections (quite a compliment in this household). There's this warm, womb-like quality. One drifts through diffuse colours, soft- focus shades, and unfamiliar emotions.

stevo, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Instant medication is how it works for me. Upon hearing that song, my bodily functions slow, a feeling of warmth rises within me, and it's like being lulled in the placenta all over again. And it's so simple, just a couple of shifting tones ... similar to another favorite mix-tape endpiece, Brian Eno's "An Ending (Ascent)"

Melissa's "seeping" comment hits on the same thing I enjoy about the album. The actual sonic presence of the album is very immediate, and the tones feel very pure and unadulterated. It's very much the definition of 'ambient' in the way that you can treat it as background soundtrack music or devote any number of levels of attention to it. I attended this Night of the Living Drone event recently, courtesy of Clarke B., in which everything from AFX to Oval to Xenakis was projected loudly from auditorium speakers, and it's at that volume that you realize the depth of different types of music. At one point Clarke played the 2nd disc, first song, and I heard these immensely deep bass rumbles that just couldn't be detected on the home speakers or headphones I've been playing it from. It sounded incredible, and very involving ...

on the more general topic, I'm amused by the Richard D. James album, but ultimately the video-game nature of the melodies and the drill-n- bass ditties sound a bit dated. Likewise, Come to Daddy is 'fun' but a little lackluster in overall replayability. So I would choose

1. I Care Because You Do, because it's the perfect mix of his older approach and the new territories he was moving towards 2. both Selected Ambient Works volumes, though the first is far more immediately enjoyable (my friend was playing this last night at a get- together, and everyone was complimenting the relaxed mood it set .. which I loved because years ago I tried to play it and people thought it too 'spacey' and 'techno') 3. all the Analogue Bubblebath EPs are great, but I particularly like #3 because of the hip-hop influenced beats 4. the song "Nannou," which is the third track off the Windowlicker single. it's a music box!

Chris, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

damn, stevo's post wasn't around originally, I hit reply to the one before it. Apparently, corroboration on that 'womblike' bit .. !

Dare, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh Man!

Gareth, How can you not like SAWI??????!!!!!!!!!!!

SAWI & II are both essential, as are I Care Because You Do, Windowlicker, and Come To Daddy.

The Caustic Window Comp, The Analogue Bubblebath EP's, Classics, and Polygon Window material are all forgettable.

RDJ album has its moments, but it is not rdj's best record. It was one of the first idm records to be fully realized on a computer(this was 1996) and paved the way for the current state of IDM. I think in many ways this record was also responsible for wrecking idm to a large extent(too much dsp fuckery, and not enough songwriting).It is not horrible, and it does have it's moments, but it is not essential.

Drukqs as an album is utter shite, but it has serveral excellent songs that are very worth mp3'ing. Mostly the Satie'esque piano pieces and that bbyb...chord track on the first disk. The drum and bass songs are utterly forgettable, and seem to be the worst music that rdj has written in years, they are nowhere near as good as the songs on Come To Daddy. I really wonder if this entire album was a practical joke(and I am being sincere, not sarcastic). This album was leaked on the internet and I had the album a few months before it came out. I really disliked until I made an mp3 playlist without the dnb parts, and it turned into a very calming ECM piano album. The album is still directionless and poorly structured, but it does contain good songs. The problem is the good songs are scattered between horrible ones.

RDJ is one of those guys who has written a lot of brilliant songs, and a lot of bad ones too. When he hits it is genius, and when he misses it is bad. I am still curious to see where he goes next. He is the arbiter of the direction of IDM like it or not. I really hope the fellow still has it in him to make good records.

mt, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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The album is still directionless and poorly structured

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Not poorly structured at all, still directionless. It's just not structured they way *you* like it CD1: good ambient trax CD2: crap jungle. Am I right? I thought so. ;)

What to get? Everybloodything.

Get SAW 85-92 first, then get the Polygon Window album (best techno album evah, err...on Tuesdays), then get Analogue Bubblebath 3 (ace collection of tuff techno and all sort of sublime ambient trax). Don't forget SAWII though, it will last a lifetime, it will never let you down and always contains a surprise or two, it has alien coldness, frozen soul musik and at times makes you feel like a baby watching sunshine through painted glass. Get RDJ last.

Omar, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i have to disagree with Omar re: the rdj album, but i do concede that it may have dated faster than the others, i care because you do may have more longevity in this respect.

i fear i may have been a little harsh on saws 1 and 2. well, actually just on 2 (because i didn't mean to critics 1, my comment reads a bit wrong - i like saw1, just less than i care and rdj). saw2, if i'm being honest, is something i haven't really given a proper chance. i am going to do so now though.

incidentally, what do people think of the dylan groups cover of we are the music makers? i really like that, although i am not a fan of the rest of their stuff (that i have heard anyway)

gareth, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ha, the next time I mention RDJ I'll copy & paste a footnote stating "It is well known that this is Gareth's favourite AFX-related album. Omar on the other hand has over the years grown to like RDJ although he still mantains it is his weakest effort. (c) 2002"

Omar, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

seven years pass...

I'm surprised no one's mentioned 'Fingerbib' on this thread. Say what you like about the RDJ album - that particular track is one of the lushest things he's committed to disc.

sam500, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 07:51 (fifteen years ago)


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